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So is 4.6 mil the max for D-men? Is that the message we're sending?

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With the signing of Garrison at 4.6 mil, and Gillis stating that he had to fit into our internal cap structure, does that mean that no defenseman on this team will make more than that?

Will Edler be willing to take that amount if we sign him long term, or do we make a push for Weber instead, and sign him to a big contract?

I don't think our players would have a problem signing Weber to a big contract since he definitely is a top 5 defenseman in the league. But I wonder how they would feel about Edler making the 6-7 mil, that he could easily fetch on the open market.

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Not if an all star like Weber comes here...$4.6 is just a # that was used by MG to sign Garrison at a discounted price, that is all.

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I think it says we're smart. Smart is good. Players like smart.

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MG would have to be out of his mind to set a $4.6million cap when offering Edler a contract.

I reckon we'll have to shell out somewhere in the $5.5million-$6million range, and that is with a hometown discount.

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I'd happily throw 7-7.5 at Weber over a long term contract. Not exactly a Parise/Suter length, something like Garrison's. So 6 years @ $7.5 per.

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If there is somebody substantially better than Garrison or Bieksa available, I don't think Gillis would hesitate to offer more than 4.6 million. He has, however, demonstrated an interest in lowballing many of the free agents he has negotiated with. I would not be surprised if 4.6 million is a soft limit when dealing with free agent defensemen.

I suppose that may be a wise philosophy, though this also poses a risk when attempting to attract players to Vancouver. Gillis also seems very shrewd when negotiating contract length as well -- aside from the Luongo deal, he has denied several players longer terms. Willie Mitchell, Sami Salo, and Christian Ehrhoff were all seeking lengthier contracts; in Mitchell's case, as well as Salo's, the difference was a two-year deal as opposed to a one-year term.

I'm certain we could have used Mitchell and Salo rather than Ballard and Tanev at the moment. The latter is still only 22 years old and could afford to spend another year developing with the Wolves; the former was a reactionary acquisition after Mitchell was concussed.

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Each free agent is different. Garrison's 4.6 fits nicely into the salary structure of the team; ie Bieksa and Hamhuis are at about the same level. To pay more for Garrison than either of those guys would look bad, imo.

I can see a team throwing stupid money at Edler (6 million?). In that case I'd say Canucks should let him walk and save their money for Weber.

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If this is tied into the recent Edler panic thread, then why not bring it up in that thread?

Of course it's not the max. The max is $10mil per season, per the Sedin contract and the first year of the Luongo contract. Pffft...

Point being, the Canucks aren't afraid to spend money. So are they afraid to pay Edler or anyone else who deserves it for that matter? Nope. Why would they be?

Beyond that, if Gillis managed to keep pretty much all the players he wanted to keep around so far at discount rates, then I wouldn't worry about Edler so much.

Cheer up, Robert.

TOML

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we should have signed ehrhoff for 4,6 and the longterm he wanted..lol

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I'd happily throw 7-7.5 at Weber over a long term contract. Not exactly a Parise/Suter length, something like Garrison's. So 6 years @ $7.5 per.

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We build the team around the Sedins and Kesler mostly, our defense doesn't have that so until the Sedins contracts are close to over, I don't really expect a big defense men signing, just look at Los Angeles and their D core, They don't have many big contracts at all but their offense does.

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comment @ your title.......

I HOPE SO! any more than 4.6 for D and your are bat s#$t crazy

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If teams were willing to offer Suter 100 million then you can expect Weber will get at least that. So if you guys want Weber I wouldn't expect to get him for a 7-8/6 year type deal.

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I think out of respect to the Sedins, I would talk to them first to see how they feel about paying Weber that much. I was thinking the Canucks where going to use the Red wings phylosiphy, that no one gets paid more than Lidstrom.

The Sedins are a definate bargain right now. How much money are they going to be worth when they resign in 3 years from now? They'll only be 34 and I'm sure they'll have lots of game left.

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MG would have to be out of his mind to set a $4.6million cap when offering Edler a contract.

I reckon we'll have to shell out somewhere in the $5.5million-$6million range, and that is with a hometown discount.

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hoenstly i know we all want weber but yah , if he isnt willing to make what everyone else is or atleast near it , he can f off

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I'd be shocked if he get 6-7M on the open market.

Unless, he puts up 60+ points this upcoming season.

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I remember MG saying that no one makes more then the Sedins, so I can see Weber getting offered 6.1, even then I could see he going a few hundred thous over it, i can see gillis going 6.5 for weber tbh. Edler I could see getting offered 4.6, maybe 4.7 from MG

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