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#1 jonnycanuck46

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:37 AM

Just a thought that has been building while I've been watching playing getting thrown silly money (Salo, Carle, Parise, Suter, etc).

If at any point in time we decide to trade a "Cody" or a "Jordan" or something like that to get better at a certain position, wouldn't it be smarter to build for the future now? I think we have all the pieces in place for the next couple years at least.

This isn't a proposal thread, but ill give an example to illustrate the approach I think we SHOULD have as opposed to the approach I think we currently have.

should have:

Van 1st 2013, Schroeder, Sauve, Raymond, Ballard ~ Columbus 1st overall pick 2013 (assuming)

do have:

Van 1st 2013, Van 1st 2014, van 1st 2015, The earth, the moon and the stars ~ Shea Weber


Just saying, This next years draft will feature what many consider the next Sidney Crosby. Nathan Mackinnon is the REAL DEAL. I don't want to sound naive or like an "NHL 12 junkee" but i'd be throwing assets around to try and get this kid or someone close in the top 5. Because those top players usually make an impact early on anyway, not in like 5 years like the players we continuously draft..

Edit: The Sedins say hello: in 1999, then Canucks GM Brian Burke dealt away assets to draft both of the Sedins consecutively. they now lead the team's offence.

Edited by jonnycanuck46, 05 July 2012 - 11:39 AM.

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#2 The Sedin's 6th Sense

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:40 AM

Yes..

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:42 AM

This completely confused me :frantic:

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:42 AM

Weber to Van the way Garrison to Van and similar to Suter/Parise to Minnesota.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:44 AM

This completely confused me :frantic:


Dw Garrison, just settle in with the new organization first and things will get better.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:45 AM

Yes..


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:46 AM

It makes me sick to the stomach to see Carle earnng almost $1 mil more than Garrison for the next six years...
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:50 AM

It makes me sick to the stomach to see Carle earnng almost $1 mil more than Garrison for the next six years...


It made me laugh pretty hard. They are both overpaid IMO. Garrison may become worth the money but his sample size is too small. Carle's money was a flippin joke

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:53 AM

This completely confused me :frantic:


Mike Gillis, is that you?
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:54 AM

Van 1st 2013, Schroeder, Sauve, Raymond, Ballard ~ Columbus 1st overall pick 2013 (assuming)


But either way we still trade away prospects. (Schroder, Sauve, and our 2013 Prospect)

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:55 AM

This completely confused me :frantic:


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:59 AM

This is very hard to understand, but I'm guessing you are saying the Canucks should rebuild?

If you are saying that it still doesn't make sense. Rather than trade the farm for one prospect, a better approach would be to trade away the current stars for assets and tank for that pick.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:05 AM

You maybe "jus sayin"...whatever that means in English. But really, did you say anything that made any sense? Maybe in your brain addled world.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:05 AM

Teams in a position to actually tank this season are likely aware that the first overall pick will be very valueable.

Should be able to get via trade or free agency: Weber

Won't be able to get via trade: A 1st overall draft choice.


Anyone remember when i said we should've tanked for Stamkos? I was being half-serious, or half-baked, but... Yep. We should've tanked for Stamkos.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:11 AM

But either way we still trade away prospects. (Schroder, Sauve, and our 2013 Prospect)


This, and for a prospect that probably won't make the team first year out of the draft. Why? Because the Canucks aren't the Oilers, that's why.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:39 AM

Should have....do have, well done chap

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:00 PM

i think i'll trust gillis' decisions.....he knows more about the business, than all the rest of us put together....

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:04 PM

Teams in a position to actually tank this season are likely aware that the first overall pick will be very valueable.

Should be able to get via trade or free agency: Weber

Won't be able to get via trade: A 1st overall draft choice.


Anyone remember when i said we should've tanked for Stamkos? I was being half-serious, or half-baked, but... Yep. We should've tanked for Stamkos.


Hold on, you didn't sign off on your post...

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:14 PM

Hold on, you didn't sign off on your post...

Teams in a position to actually tank this season are likely aware that the first overall pick will be very valueable.

Should be able to get via trade or free agency: Weber

Won't be able to get via trade: A 1st overall draft choice.


Anyone remember when i said we should've tanked for Stamkos? I was being half-serious, or half-baked, but... Yep. We should've tanked for Stamkos.


I NOTICED THIS AS WELL!!! ITS A HACKED POST!

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:19 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had no idea what the OP was trying to say, hahaha

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:24 PM

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:06 PM

Should have....do have, well done chap

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I think your pic is a bit racist buddy

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:16 PM

....... I think what he's trying to say is......where are our next Sedins gonna come from? we're looking to be at the top of the standings for a while and won't have the draft spot to grab a likely future all star, being so close to the cap with no signs of coming down we likely won't be able to sign any huge contracts for a young elite player.

Maybe it's time some of these dark horse prospects start pumping out 50 goals a year, punk kids best start representing........ :>

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:11 PM

I think your pic is a bit racist buddy

Is it? or are you racist for thinking an asian person clapping is being racist?
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:16 PM

I think your pic is a bit racist buddy

how so?

would it still be racist if it was a white person doing the exact same thing?

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:33 PM

White men can't clap.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:05 PM

I think your pic is a bit racist buddy


Wow, it makes me sick how people don't know the difference between racism and racist. Get flamed b*tch!

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 05:37 AM

It makes me sick to the stomach to see Carle earnng almost $1 mil more than Garrison for the next six years...


Is this sarcasm? Hard to tell :) ............but if it isn't.........

We still don't know what Garrison will bring to the team.

If he protects the goalie, faces down the cheap shot artists and puts up points and stays fit, then we will have a bargain.
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