mabbott Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 it tough hate to trade kes but he seems like more of the answer if webers coming to town. I could part with edler, jensen/ gaunce, tanev and 2 first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaK Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 This is what I'm anticipating. The loss of Suter is bad enough on it's own, but the ripple effect could be crippling. An offer sheet to Weber right now would be the dick move to top all dick moves, as Nashville would be screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Edler will resign with us at a discount. Relax guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xx Malcolm Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I say sell the farm of picks and prospects to get this guy if he is available. Try to keep all the impact players we have if that's possible but I definitely see Poile asking for Kes in a package going back the other way for Weber. My guess is : Kes Edler Jensen 2 - 1st Round Picks (conditional if Shea re-signs) 2 - 2nd Round Picks Shea Weber 2nd Round Pick (conditional if Edler re-signs) Complete overpayment I know but I bet that would be about the min. Nashville would want. They will probably want to mitigate the loss of Suter through a Weber trade if they realize he is done there after this season. I wonder if something like this would get it done: Tanev Sauve or Connauton Jensen Ballard 2 First Round picks (1 conditional) 3 Second Round picks(2 conditional) Weber 2nd Round Pick (conditional) All picks conditional on whether or not Shea re-signs a long term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duda Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I say sell the farm of picks and prospects to get this guy if he is available. Try to keep all the impact players we have if that's possible but I definitely see Poile asking for Kes in a package going back the other way for Weber. My guess is : Kes Edler Jensen 2 - 1st Round Picks (conditional if Shea re-signs) 2 - 2nd Round Picks Shea Weber 2nd Round Pick (conditional if Edler re-signs) Complete overpayment I know but I bet that would be about the min. Nashville would want. They will probably want to mitigate the loss of Suter through a Weber trade if they realize he is done there after this season. I wonder if something like this would get it done: Tanev Sauve or Connauton Jensen Ballard 2 First Round picks (1 conditional) 3 Second Round picks(2 conditional) Weber 2nd Round Pick (conditional) All picks conditional on whether or not Shea re-signs a long term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Suter, Heatley and Parise dont even compare to the talent Lebron, Wade, and Bosh have. Lebron is the best player in the NBA. Suter in my opinion is over-rated. Heatley isnt who he once was. Parise is great but he isnt 13 years 7.5 million great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Weber in a trade as an RFA would command a kings ransom. Edler, Connaut, Tanev/Raymond + 1st for an RFA Weber is what I could see him asking. Then there is his contract which will be 6/7 mil a year if he goes to arbitration. Its worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rey Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I can see it now. Canucks tell Edler to screw off and sign Weber. Weber bust and Edler, turns into Super Edler in Detroit with a little mentoring by the great Lidstrom. Best defense man for a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Imagine if Weber left. .... and the Predators implode basically in one off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhai Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I say sell the farm of picks and prospects to get this guy if he is available. Try to keep all the impact players we have if that's possible but I definitely see Poile asking for Kes in a package going back the other way for Weber. My guess is : Kes Edler Jensen 2 - 1st Round Picks (conditional if Shea re-signs) 2 - 2nd Round Picks Shea Weber 2nd Round Pick (conditional if Edler re-signs) Complete overpayment I know but I bet that would be about the min. Nashville would want. They will probably want to mitigate the loss of Suter through a Weber trade if they realize he is done there after this season. I wonder if something like this would get it done: Tanev Sauve or Connauton Jensen Ballard 2 First Round picks (1 conditional) 3 Second Round picks(2 conditional) Weber 2nd Round Pick (conditional) All picks conditional on whether or not Shea re-signs a long term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Bunnies Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I would really hate to see Edler go, I think if we could manage to get Weber without giving up Edler, they could be paired together and I see Edler taking his game to the next level. Suter really thrived playing along Weber and they became an huge part of the success Nashville had last season as a shutdown pair. If Nashville would take Bieksa in a package instead, I don't mind parting with Bieksa although he probably has far less value. For an offer-sheet, I think it may actually work ..if Canucks were to give up two 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd, Poile might actually not match because Weber may already have made up his mind and won't return the following season and walking on July 1st. So those picks are better than losing him for nothing. As mentioned above, a 3-way trade is also a possibility in my opinion. Send Luongo to either Florida/Toronto, and one of them give Nashville their part of the deal and we take the rights of Weber. I have a strong feeling Weber would take a discount here to play with Hamhuis and close to home, the only reason he demanded for 7.5M+ this season is he is showing he doesn't have interest in staying in Nashville. Weber is exactly what we're missing on this team, a legit big and strong #1 defenseman that can log huge minutes and be used in all situations. Edler - Weber Hamhuis - Garrison Ballard - Tanev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I would do: To Van: WEBER To Nashville: Edler, Ballard, 2013 1st, 2013 3rd. Weber replaces Edler, We can get a solid depth guy to replace Ballard. or let one of the younger kids get a shot. We get Weber we have one of the best top 4 in the league. Hammer-Weber Garrisson-Juice Connatton-Tanev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Shea Weber is from Sicamous...Shuswap Lake. I'm there right now. A lot of flood damage..major loss of property and homes. Does anyone know if he is in the area or otherwise aware of how devastating this flood has been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berto91 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I wouldn't want to see Booth or Kesler go, I wouldn't want to see Higgins go either.. We already lack depth scoring as it is, I'd rather keep Booth, Kes and Higgins and maybe do something like Ballard, a future 1st and a prospect or something. Trading forwards I just wouldn't see working out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luongo_01 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I would really hate to see Edler go, I think if we could manage to get Weber without giving up Edler, they could be paired together and I see Edler taking his game to the next level. Suter really thrived playing along Weber and they became an huge part of the success Nashville had last season as a shutdown pair. If Nashville would take Bieksa in a package instead, I don't mind parting with Bieksa although he probably has far less value. For an offer-sheet, I think it may actually work ..if Canucks were to give up two 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd, Poile might actually not match because Weber may already have made up his mind and won't return the following season and walking on July 1st. So those picks are better than losing him for nothing. As mentioned above, a 3-way trade is also a possibility in my opinion. Send Luongo to either Florida/Toronto, and one of them give Nashville their part of the deal and we take the rights of Weber. I have a strong feeling Weber would take a discount here to play with Hamhuis and close to home, the only reason he demanded for 7.5M+ this season is he is showing he doesn't have interest in staying in Nashville. Weber is exactly what we're missing on this team, a legit big and strong #1 defenseman that can log huge minutes and be used in all situations. Edler - Weber Hamhuis - Garrison Ballard - Tanev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 In all honesty, Weber isn't THAT much of an upgrade on Edler so I'd rather try and sign Edler and maybe move Ballard or Garrison (if he has a terrible season next year) to make room for Weber. Obviously by next season one of the goalies will have to have been moved. Essentially, trade Ballard for a 2nd round pick (cap dump) and Schneider or Luongo (depending on next season's performance) for a bunch of assets, mainly a top-3 forward to replace Burrows who will start to show signs of age. That frees up 8-9 million which we use to sign Weber. Weber - Edler (both in their prime, wow) Hamhuis - Bieksa Garrison - Tanev That's the most physical, scary defence in the NHL by far, and will be backstopped by one of the league's best, plus we'll now have a nice 1st line with a solid 1st liner from the goalie trade. Offensive depth will also be there as Kassian and Hansen are likely to improve. The perfect overall team ON PAPER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2013's The Charm Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I would really hate to see Edler go, I think if we could manage to get Weber without giving up Edler, they could be paired together and I see Edler taking his game to the next level. Suter really thrived playing along Weber and they became an huge part of the success Nashville had last season as a shutdown pair. If Nashville would take Bieksa in a package instead, I don't mind parting with Bieksa although he probably has far less value. For an offer-sheet, I think it may actually work ..if Canucks were to give up two 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd, Poile might actually not match because Weber may already have made up his mind and won't return the following season and walking on July 1st. So those picks are better than losing him for nothing. As mentioned above, a 3-way trade is also a possibility in my opinion. Send Luongo to either Florida/Toronto, and one of them give Nashville their part of the deal and we take the rights of Weber. I have a strong feeling Weber would take a discount here to play with Hamhuis and close to home, the only reason he demanded for 7.5M+ this season is he is showing he doesn't have interest in staying in Nashville. Weber is exactly what we're missing on this team, a legit big and strong #1 defenseman that can log huge minutes and be used in all situations. Edler - Weber Hamhuis - Garrison Ballard - Tanev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I don't understand why people are so scared of the Minnesota Wild all of a sudden? Did they get a lot better and fast, sure but if we put it in perspective, they now have a top line that can rival any top line in the NHL but this is basically where it ends. Do people realize that the Wild have only $1.3 million in cap space left and they only have two top four defensemen currently signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luongo_01 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I've always had the feeling that Bieksa will be a part of a trade for Weber instead of Edler. And as someone else said give them something we get in the Luongo trade. Say its for Weiss & Kulikov Vancouver: Shea Weber Nashville: Kevin Bieksa Dimitry Kulikov David Booth Manny Malhotra 2nd To me that would be fair. We would have to trade Tanev to Florida if we're getting Kulikov so we can't include him in the Weber trade. Imagine a pairing of Ellis-Kulikov in 2-3 years. Weber-Suter lite in my opinion. Edler - Weber Hamhuis - Garrison Ballard - Connauton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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