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[Report] With Suter gone, Shea Weber could be on his way out soon


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#61 luongo_01

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 08:37 PM

I've always had the feeling that Bieksa will be a part of a trade for Weber instead of Edler. And as someone else said give them something we get in the Luongo trade. Say its for Weiss & Kulikov

Vancouver:

Shea Weber

Nashville:

Kevin Bieksa
Dimitry Kulikov
David Booth
Manny Malhotra
2nd

To me that would be fair. We would have to trade Tanev to Florida if we're getting Kulikov so we can't include him in the Weber trade. Imagine a pairing of Ellis-Kulikov in 2-3 years. Weber-Suter lite in my opinion.

Edler - Weber
Hamhuis - Garrison
Ballard - Connauton


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 08:41 PM

Wait one year for him to be a UFA. Theres no need to trade for him.



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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:33 PM

We can sign him the way Minnesota signed Suter.

Free agency.

Nuff said.

Players Nikolaj Ehlers have been compared too by the fan base of the Vancouver Canucks.

 

1 Pavel Bure

2 Markus Naslund

3 Nathan Mackkinon

4 Jonathan Drouin.

5 Jonathan Tavares

 

http://bleacherrepor...d-top-prospects

combine results.  Ehlers 5'11 162 lbs of solid rock.  


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:05 PM

Why is everyone so keen on trading away 1st round draft picks? Next year's draft is said to be the deepest since 2003, which basically means a 1st round pick in a draft like that gives you an impact player. Weber is an elite defensemen but only at the right price, why pay for a hot commodity with picks and prospects when you could get him in free agency.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:11 PM

I think the amount we would need to give up to get Weber would not make us better.

I believe the conversation with NSH would start with Edler and Kesler.


I think Edler will be a Canuck for a very long time. Both Kesler and Edler is overpayment.

The deal would be Kesler and Ballard for Weber and picks/prospects going both ways.

Then MG trades Loungo for a 2 nd line C. It won't be a Kesler calibre C coming in Luongo trade but we will get a young guy with a huge upside like Bugjstad from Miami.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:45 PM

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:49 PM

Am I the only one who wants to see an Edler/Weber first pairing? lol

That would be legendary... I can see it now, Weber wins the Norris finally and Edler gets 60 point season. ::D

Edited by Kesler's Nose, 05 July 2012 - 11:02 PM.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:00 PM

MG to do list:

1. Trade Roberto Luongo

2. Acquire Cody Franson in trade with Toronto

3. Wait till 12/13 season is over

4. Trade Ballard for rights to Shea Weber

5. Sign Weber to 96 mil 12 year contract.

6. Do the happy dance with all of Vancouver

:bigblush: :bigblush: :bigblush: Fcuk Nashvile! Jk

"It's an opportunity, we don't look at it as a last chance... We look at it as an opportunity to do something great. We are going to take it period by period, shift by shift. You just have to be better than the guy across from you... Every guy in this locker room I can say believes we can do this." - Ryan Kesler

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:11 PM

I would really hate to see Edler go, I think if we could manage to get Weber without giving up Edler, they could be paired together and I see Edler taking his game to the next level. Suter really thrived playing along Weber and they became an huge part of the success Nashville had last season as a shutdown pair. If Nashville would take Bieksa in a package instead, I don't mind parting with Bieksa although he probably has far less value.

For an offer-sheet, I think it may actually work ..if Canucks were to give up two 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd, Poile might actually not match because Weber may already have made up his mind and won't return the following season and walking on July 1st. So those picks are better than losing him for nothing.

As mentioned above, a 3-way trade is also a possibility in my opinion. Send Luongo to either Florida/Toronto, and one of them give Nashville their part of the deal and we take the rights of Weber.

I have a strong feeling Weber would take a discount here to play with Hamhuis and close to home, the only reason he demanded for 7.5M+ this season is he is showing he doesn't have interest in staying in Nashville. Weber is exactly what we're missing on this team, a legit big and strong #1 defenseman that can log huge minutes and be used in all situations.

Edler - Weber
Hamhuis - Garrison
Ballard - Tanev


So which is it? Weber takes a hometown discount to play with his old partner Hammy or he plays with Edler in order to take Edlers game to the 'next level'?

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 12:05 AM

As much as I'd LOVE to have Weber play with us I just can't see MG throwing everything including the kitchen sink at him. He's on what, 7.5 this year? I can't see him be wiling to take LESS than that just to play for Vancouver. I struggle to see us re-signing Edler (who's due for what, 5? 5.5?), plus isn't burrows due for a new contract, so 3.5-4 there and on top of that signing Weber to a starting price of 7.5 but more likely 8+. I just don't see it. I think MG will try lure him in FA with a low ball offer using the home town card as his major pulling piece but Weber will sign with Detroit for the big bucks and a serious chance at a cup (not saying we dont offer him that as well).

So which is it? Weber takes a hometown discount to play with his old partner Hammy or he plays with Edler in order to take Edlers game to the 'next level'?

So which is it? Weber takes a hometown discount to play with his old partner Hammy or he plays with Edler in order to take Edlers game to the 'next level'?


If we do get Weber tho but like I just said I don't think we will, no reason why he can't improve Edlers game and take a home town discount?

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 12:36 AM

As much as I'd LOVE to have Weber play with us I just can't see MG throwing everything including the kitchen sink at him. He's on what, 7.5 this year? I can't see him be wiling to take LESS than that just to play for Vancouver. I struggle to see us re-signing Edler (who's due for what, 5? 5.5?), plus isn't burrows due for a new contract, so 3.5-4 there and on top of that signing Weber to a starting price of 7.5 but more likely 8+. I just don't see it. I think MG will try lure him in FA with a low ball offer using the home town card as his major pulling piece but Weber will sign with Detroit for the big bucks and a serious chance at a cup (not saying we dont offer him that as well).



If we do get Weber tho but like I just said I don't think we will, no reason why he can't improve Edlers game and take a home town discount?


Did you see the hit on Zetterberg? lol Although they did sign Tootoo, they are kind of desperate..

I'm thinking 8 mil a season is more than adequate, and we can manage to sign everyone next season.

We get rid of Ballard and Raymond, resign Burrows at 4.5 and Edler at 5.5 for X amount of years.

As long as we have Luongo on a different team as well by then, hopefully with Toronto (We get Franson, another one of Weber's friends in that deal) with all the UFA's on our team next year we'll be fine with an 8 mil a year offer for around 12 years. Monster contract, but this time it will be worth it.

EDIT:

D. Sedin (6.1) - H. Sedin (6.1) - Burrows (4.5)
Booth (4.25) - Kesler (5.0) - Kassian (870k)
Higgins (2.1) - Malhotra (1.9) - Hansen (1.35)
Volpatti (600k) - Lapierre (1.2) - Weise (650k)

Edler (5.5) - Weber (8.0)
Hamhuis (4.5) - Bieksa (4.6)
Garrison (4.6) - Franson (2.0)
Tanev (1.0)

Schneider (4.0)
Lack (900k)

Totals: $69, 720, 000

With the cap probably going up a little next year, we should have a bit of money left to sign the odd depth player as well. I've added small raises (Burrows, Higgins, Lapierre, Weise, Edler, Franson, Tanev, Lack) and decreases. (Manny)

Edited by Kesler's Nose, 06 July 2012 - 01:22 AM.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 12:09 PM

Forget that.

The Canucks should trade everyone for him and then tank this upcoming season for a high draft pick.

#1 overall and Shea Weber!!!


:picard: ~ major facepalm~ ~shakes head~..trade everyone???? Yeah...great idea ~shakes head~ Go grab a cup of coffee...

~dripping sarcasm~ So here's something equally stupid - Sami Salo left so #6 is vacant. So Shea Weber is going to sign here because we've got #6 waiting for him and he'll take a hometown discount just to sign here. See how dumb that sounds?

F***!!!! "trade everyone"...Jeez... ~rolls eyes~

Edited by Puck'nAnimal, 06 July 2012 - 12:30 PM.


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