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#1 CanucksSayEh

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:04 PM

For debates sake

Lets say the Canucks signed one, or all of, Nash Parise Weber and Doan. All former Captains and with the exception of Nash fairly accomplished with their teams.

Would you give any of them the C over Hank if they signed?

Doan - hard nosed Canadian vet
Parise - SCF finalist, intangibles of the charts
Weber - Home grown, instantly the best player on the team
Nash - Team Canada Gold medal, intimidating power forward

Hank - Current captain with the franchises most success under his reign, Longer resume than any above option.


Not to stirr up any Messier feelings............................

Edited by CanucksSayEh, 05 July 2012 - 12:05 PM.


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:10 PM

I would give Kesler the C over Hank if I was the decider.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:23 PM

That would do some serious damage in the locker room, so no. Besides, you don't have to wear the C on your chest to lead.


Out of those 4 guys, if I had to choose one as captain, it would be Doan.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:27 PM

I would give Kesler the C over Hank if I was the decider.


Why?

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:31 PM

I think Hank's Hart qualifies him to keep his C. He's our guy - drafted, developed, and dominant here.
No thanks to any Linden/Messier v2.0 scenarios.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:36 PM

Interesting post, because it brings up a good thing to consider. A lot of these guys might like being the Captain of the team, and want to play somewhere that will allow them to take that role immediately/eventually. Hank give up his C to another player coming into the Canucks? Hell no. If he has to give up his C, it better be going to a guy who already has been a part of the team for a while. Probably not Kesler either, not sure he's cut out for it.

I could definitely see those guys wearing As behind Henrik, though.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:39 PM

I would give Kesler the C over Hank if I was the decider.


I agree... either Kesler or Bieksa are the best leaders on the Canucks. They only gave it to Hank a few years ago cause he won the art ross and hart trophies after setting a franchise record for pts (112) in one year. Gillis says that Hank deserves it becuase he "leads by example" which is true. But the true leaders on the canucks are Kesler and Bieksa in my opinion.

If it was my choice... Kesler wears the C.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:39 PM

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:42 PM

Why even think about taking the C off Hank?
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:43 PM

Henrik is a good leader, but Kesler would be a better more aggressive role.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:45 PM

I would give Kesler the C over Hank if I was the decider.

I agree... either Kesler or Bieksa are the best leaders on the Canucks. They only gave it to Hank a few years ago cause he won the art ross and hart trophies after setting a franchise record for pts (112) in one year. Gillis says that Hank deserves it becuase he "leads by example" which is true. But the true leaders on the canucks are Kesler and Bieksa in my opinion.

If it was my choice... Kesler wears the C.


Kesler says "I" to much to lead this team.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:47 PM

Hank earned his C, there's no way management would rip it of his chest and give it to some player that just joined the organization. Although it is possible that some of those players would get the "A".

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:50 PM

Why?


Nope. What do you think Doan would do if Marchand was punching his teammate in the face repedetively? Especially his own brother?
Im pretty sure Nash, Doan, Weber, or anyone would go over and drop marchands little rat A$$

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:52 PM

For me the Kesler or Hank debate starts and ends with that LA series.


As players i would rank them

Weber
Sedin
Nash
Parise
Doan

Hard to say about "captain qualities", i can only go by what i see and hear but Parise and Doan seemed highly regarded by their teammates and fans.

I would stick with Hank until he does something stupid, very unlikely, or is well into declining and there is a younger star who's paid his dues ready to take charge.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:00 PM

I respect all those guys, but I would stick with Hank. He's been a Canucks for his entire career, so the players already know and respect him. Besides, it's not like having the C gives you exclusive leadership rights, it's more of a group thing.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:02 PM

I'd let Henrik keep the C. He is a franchise player and a class act, he deserves it.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:15 PM

Hank is the Captain of our team, too much what's ifs and butts here, not a play on words there, either, yeah let's strip our 2nd Captain in a row, wow if our fans ran this team, I would rather follow Calgary

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:16 PM

For debates sake

Lets say the Canucks signed one, or all of, Nash Parise Weber and Doan. All former Captains and with the exception of Nash fairly accomplished with their teams.

Would you give any of them the C over Hank if they signed?

Doan - hard nosed Canadian vet
Parise - SCF finalist, intangibles of the charts
Weber - Home grown, instantly the best player on the team
Nash - Team Canada Gold medal, intimidating power forward


None of those guys has ever won a Hart Trophy as league MVP. Plus Henrik has taken his team closer to the cup than any of those guys.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:41 PM

If I were to take it away from hank (which im not saying that i would be on board with, im unsure really) but i'd only give it to either doan or weber.

Doan because well.. do I even need to explain?

And Weber because he can be an agressive leader and he would lead our defense instantly as the OP said above.

But, even getting one of these guys to add to our team is amazing, they would be leaders because of thier personalities, they don;t need a C on thier sweaters to do that.
Always will love and support Cody Hodgson, great player, great potential great character, and I don't care about those stupid rumours about the trade. And we lost him, what a dissapointment. Love you COHO, forever a canuck in my heart!

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:21 PM

Kesler isn't ready to be captain needs to get over diving , he needs to mature a little more but other than henrik I think bieksa would be a great captain sticks up for teammates , big leader in the dressing room

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:24 PM

Kes or Kev for Captain!?!?!? Like I want two whiney grump faces leading our Canucks. That sh!t is old and I hope they get their sh!t together this year.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:10 PM

Why even think about taking the C off Hank?



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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:24 PM

Yes, we should definitely give the Captaincy to Kesler. He'll probably win gold at the London Olympics as top diver... who doesn't like a gold medal, eh?

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:28 PM

I would give Kesler the C over Hank if I was the decider.


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:29 PM

Hank is the Captain of our team, too much what's ifs and butts here, not a play on words there, either, yeah let's strip our 2nd Captain in a row, wow if our fans ran this team, I would rather follow Calgary


wow.. those are big words :-|

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:56 PM

I would give Kesler the C over Hank if I was the decider.


This, however I would give Burrows the C over Kesler.


Doan - I would definitely give him the C
Parise - I would give him the A
Weber - Neither. After what he did to Zetterburg in the playoffs, I don't want him representing us as the team leader.
Nash - In a heart beat would I give him the C.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:22 PM

I think Henrik Sedin has earned the "C" but i think other players like Bieksa and Kesler also have lead this team to great highs and if we should come to the point where we need a new leader in my opinion we give it to Kes and I know he will cut the crap and do what he does best and lead this team like the 2010-2011 Playoffs.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:51 PM

Henrik is a leader by example. He is an Art Ross and Hart Trophy winner, and led the team to game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals, even more than Parise. He also helped his brother win the Art Ross and the Ted Lindsay Awards. Now awards don't mean everything, and can be overstated, and many times they are awarded to the wrong players, BUT I think in this case it exemplifies his abilities. Top it off with his community work, his yearly commitment to the sport and staying in shape, leading the team by example, he is without a doubt in my mind our captain.
And what I have to say to those who say that Kesler deserves it more is that while Kesler is a great player, and even a good leader, he isn't a great leader. He is at times selfish and immature, and focuses on himself too much. This isn't the mark of a great leader. Maybe one day he'll mature into a great leader, it is possible, but at this point in his career he is not. These things push him to be a better player and a fierce competitor, and don't get me wrong, I think he's a great guy, but Henrik deserves it more. Kesler does fit well in a supplimentary leadership role though, with the A.
Then again, we the fans often overstate the importance of captaincy.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:04 PM

Henrik is going to become the Canucks all-time leader in points soon. He is Mr. Canuck, face of the franchise, the best player to ever wear a Canucks uniform.

Crosby would take a back-seat to Hank if he became a Canuck.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:35 PM

I was one of the ones who wanted Kes to wear the 'C', but now that I've seen Hank with it, I'm fine with him being captain.

EDIT: But If I had to pick another, I'd probably go with Weber. :P B.C. boy being captain in Vancity, just sounds too great to pass up! lol

Edited by Kesler's Nose, 05 July 2012 - 10:39 PM.

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