Actually AV did publicly call out Raymond last season. Your right comparing him to kesler isnt fair. They are not the same type of player whatsoever. But as you stated Kesler is the heart and soul of this team, so where was this heart and soul last season and in the playoffs. Kesler WAS a 40 goal scorer and WAS a Selke winner. He wasnt anywhere near either of those things last season. So if injuries arnt an excuse, what was Keslers?
All I saw out of Kesler was selfish play and refusing to use his linemates. He is supposed to be the leader on that line. His play was far more concerning for me than Raymonds play.
Raymond is just everyones whipping boy and if you think Raymond and his 2.6 mill was the problem with the 2nd line, you are blind to the lackluster play of his 4 mill linemates.
Wow you make alot of assumptions. When did av call out raymond like he called out kesler? He did say you look to raymond and he needs to produce offense, but him and gillis did not call out raymond like kesler was.
Who turns a blind eye to kesler? I dont, his production was down, he needed to be better, he was not. He needs to be much better like av and gillis said. I as well as others have said on here during the year his selfish play needs to be looked at and he should possibly be forced to play wing if he does not improve his play making ability at center. But hes the heart of our team. With that said we rely on kesler, not raymond, raymond is a fringe top 6 player we can live without and move on from, your completely ignoring each persons role on our team.
Raymond was not the problem with the 2nd line alone, but he certainly did not help at all, and because he was not the biggest problem this somehow means he should be resigned? Kesler and booth were not meshing or playing well and it has been well documented, i dont get where everyone seems to think they get a free pass, because they did not. However how does this somehow excuses raymond? Raymond did not perform either, his contract was up, and we could have moved on from him. He is not a top 6 caliber forward the last two season and imo does not fit on this team. He could be useful to another team, but I dont see him as a fit here.
This is turning into a whining match over who deserves more blame and thats not what the issue is, raymond did not even play exclusively on keslers line, he played on nearly every line so we cant just blame kesler for raymond. Kesler and booth did not produce either, but we also need a better top 6 then mason raymond, his contract was up, we had a chance to move on, but we did not, if booth is not producing and his contract was up, people would also be saying the same thing, he should not be resigned and we need to move on. Raymond is no different, he is not a solution to the 2nd line either and has put up poor numbers the last few seasons. Raymond also was not a selke winning 40 goal scorer the prior season, or he might get cut more slack. Kesler is pivotal to our team, we need him right now, we can part with raymond, we cant part with kesler.
Edited by Ghostdivision, 09 July 2012 - 02:20 PM.