GoNucks74 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Can't teams go over by 10% during the summer anyways? or did I hear that incorrectly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoNucks74 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This is part of the reason I'm a believer they just trade Luo for a few draft picks as freeing up the cap space he's occupying (so we can sign a guy like Doan) is just as valuable as trading for someone of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHobo73 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Depending on the amount of money we spend on our players, we may not be able to sign another. I personally think about things in terms of cap space because it is such an important part of the game, it factors in trading and signing players. We wouldn't really want to see MG spend 7mil+ on a player worth less, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Lets not care about cap room at this point. Cap room issues can be resoloved later, if we say sign him at 5 million. However, there is no fixing not having Shane Doan. Gillis needs to sign him, and go all in. Not only that, signing Doan will solve our top 6 Winger problem. Doan and Kesler will make an awesome pairing grinding , hitting, and more important scoring, as Doan is a proven top 6 winger. Get it done Gillis. YOu didn't get Shultz done, that's ok, he thinks Lebron, please sign Doan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleednucksblue Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Thanks Mike! Lucky you are the one running this organization! I would love for the Canucks to sign Doan for 2yrs, 9 Million but thats not gonna happen. Its what the market dictates, not what you or I think works best. 2yrs 9 Million is Jokinen and Whitney money, Doan is going to get upwards of those. No denying that but if you can pull it off then I'm sure glad your running this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Mobile bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr8zyCanuck Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 4 years is out of the question. We'd be paying cap for an empty roster spot for at least the last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I think GoNucks74 makes a very valid point. According to CapGeeks, the Canucks have $3M of cap space. If they sign Doan for $5M per year, they are over the cap by $2M. Sure Luongo goes, but there will be players coming back in that deal so that likely won't free up that much cap room. Kesler goes on LTIR, but he's coming back at some point (at a pro-rated amount). If he misses half the season he's still a cap hit of $2.5M (versus $5M for the entire year). All of this and we still don't have a back up goalie on the roster and Burrows is badly underpaid ($2M per) and his contract is up after this year. This is part of the reason I'm a believer they just trade Luo for a few draft picks as freeing up the cap space he's occupying (so we can sign a guy like Doan) is just as valuable as trading for someone of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleednucksblue Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Doan isn't as worn down as the majority of 35 year old hockey players. He has limited playoff time, and didn't play in an overly physical devision for his entire career as an NHLer. I would go as far to suggest a 4-5 year contract, front loaded, with a limited cap hit at the end (in case he retires). As a GM Mike Gillis can easily mitigate the age factor of Doan by giving him financial security in a time (just like Luongo) where he can't bank on getting an income from any team. I'd say a nice "retirement contract" of sorts is completely safe cap wise, and could even give us an edge in signing him other teams won't have. 6M over two years 3.5 for the third year 2.75 for the fourth 1.75 for the fifth That's an average of 4M per season. Not going to be a terribly disgusting cap hit if we end up paying that. Total = 20M = Reportedly what Gillis was asking Sundin to sign for in a 2 year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverinė Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 PHX is probably willing to give him the high salary / 3+ year contract he wants but he probably knows he's not going to win there. Seems like he'll go to the team that'll give him more than 2 years, and that might not be the Canucks considering MG let Salo walk for pretty much the same reasons (different player, and Salo is older, but I'm guessing term is the issue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Gilmore Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Cap space isn't a problem - the Canucks can afford Doan. Gillis gets young players/prospects in return for Luongo. The Canucks have an outstanding backup already - his name is Eddie Lack. Malhotra's 2.5 contract expires at the end of the season as well = bulk of Burrows' raise. The cap raises = Edler's raise. In addition - Doan makes it possible to trade a winger for picks/prospects if necessary. The potential emergence of Kassian, Schroeder and Jensen, likewise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverinė Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I cannot believe people are willing to give a 35 year old who might get you 50 points a year 6 mil per or a 4 year contract. WTF people? He's an aging power forward who plays all out every shift. No way does he have 4 high quality years left in him. No way is he worth 6 mil per considering the contracts real superstars get that are close to that. I love the intangibles and yes they are what the Canucks need to a tee, but to overpay an aging player for them is completely foolish both short and long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry_Wilkins Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Regardless, anybody who thinks our offense is even close to being at Philly's level probably reads too much and doesn't watch enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverinė Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 15 goals less is hardly a significant difference. And the Canucks scored those goals in a much tougher conference defensively. As well, AV's philosophy is to peel back on the forecheck with even a one goal lead (We had the lead a lot.) Vancouver was tied with Chicago for most goals for in the Western conference. Bottom line is the Canucks have nothing to hang their heads about in relation to the "young, exciting" Flyers, everyone's new fad darlings of the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afesposit Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 So this was just posted by the local beat writer on the story down here. Lisa Halverstadt @LisaHalverstadt Sounds as if things are moving forward MT @samstown89 What's the next step here? Is Jamison able to buy the team now? #Coyotes View conversation Reply Retweet Favorite Doesn't seem like they have the sigs... Of course the goldwater guys are saying they have till next monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyking Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 With the new CBA the salary cap could actually come down. Hopefully not too drastically though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleednucksblue Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I'd be absolutely shocked if he didn't put up 70 points playing with the Sedins all year... He wasn't playing with Whitney and Hanzal last season. Vrbata - Hanzal - Whitney I'm sure he'll do better with the Sedins than Vermette, Korpikoski, etc. (not saying they are bad players, just not the Sedins). Not sure how I'd feel about him being on the second line with Kesler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverinė Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Paying 6 mil per or giving out 4 or 5 year deals to 35 years old power forwards is not at all how Gillis operates and thankfully so. It's terrible business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 does anyone know if hes going to sign today or later this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleednucksblue Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I never said that 6M for 4 or 5 years was a good deal. My post was about his production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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