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#481 Italia2006

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:18 PM

This whole Phoenix thing is very confusing. Did they get a new owner now? Is everything stable now once and for all in Phoenix? I'm sick of hearing about it for the past 3 years.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:24 PM

Did someone forget to remind Craig Button that he doesn't like the Canucks or something? His last few bits on the Canucks has him being quite nice to them...
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:25 PM

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>Never having heard the term "butthurt" on the internet before


Not from a straight guy bud. Or at least saying it from one guy to another guy... just a little weird. Thats something one guy shouldn't say to another guy.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:25 PM

You need to follow the situation a little closer if you haven't seen countless quotes from him and his agent saying he doesn't want to leave Phoenix.


Or quite possibly Doan and his agent are playing the "want to stay in PHX" card to juice his contract with other teams since it would be "difficult" for him to leave.

Bottom line is that I or others or you really don't know what Doan is thinking.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:27 PM

Not from a straight guy bud. Or at least saying it from one guy to another guy... just a little weird. Thats something one guy shouldn't say to another guy.


Who's straight?

Hmmmmmm
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:28 PM

You're the one that will be butthurt, not me.







With news today that the petition failed and the judge will not give them anymore time, the sale is all but done. Therefore it's just a matter of Jamison convincing Doan that the team is staying in Phoenix. Which he has already stated he plans on doing.

I don't know how much more obvious it can get...


still not as simple as that!
What did make the ballot in Glendale’s civic election is whether to approve the 2.9% sales tax which is needed to offset the monies promised the Jamieson Group.
All of the candidates running for office in November have written the current counsel asking to scuttlebutt the entire lease.
This year Glendale was 5 million short on their payment to the NHL.
It is speculated that the Jamieson group may still have issues raising the necessary money to finalize the purchase from the NHL.
The bond market wants to wait and see what the election result will be concerning the tax increase.
Here’s a read for ya all....

http://investdb4.the...ory/currencies/
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:30 PM

You're the one that will be butthurt, not me.







With news today that the petition failed and the judge will not give them anymore time, the sale is all but done. Therefore it's just a matter of Jamison convincing Doan that the team is staying in Phoenix. Which he has already stated he plans on doing.

I don't know how much more obvious it can get...


I didn't read about that until you mentioned it. You can't assume everyone read something that only came up a few hours earlier.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:34 PM

The situation with the petition is far from over. I wouldn't call it so cut and dry that they've seen the end of it. The future of the Coyotes franchise is still uncertain, and as a result so is Doan's future with the team.

If Shane was as committed to the team as some of you claim, he wouldn't be holding back. We know the team isn't holding back waiting to sign him, so that only leaves one person who could be slowing the process.

His camp has also stated that Doan has turned down an offer from the team. Why would a guy who has already decided he wants to play for a particular team turn down their offer? I think it's safe to assume that the money involved would have been fair and reasonable between two long standing associates.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:36 PM

From : http://investdb4.the...ory/currencies/

seeing some are too lazy here's some info on why the failure of petition is only part of the issue regarding the sale!
THE SALE HAS NOT CLEARED ALL HURDLES!!!


Coyotes facing more taxing roadblocks

Petitions on lease and Glendale sales-tax increase clouding franchise's financial future


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00:00 EDT Friday, July 06, 2012

Once again, threats to the sale of the Phoenix Coyotes are mounting, which means the NHL is facing some unappetizing choices over the future of the franchise.
A petition to overturn a city sales-tax increase was delivered to suburban Glendale city officials Thursday. That could torpedo Greg Jamison's proposed purchase of the Coyotes from the league.
Another petition to put the lease for Jobing.com Arena, one that is to pay prospective owner Jamison $324-million (all currency U.S.) over 20 years, to a public vote is due either Monday or July 16. The date is the subject of some legal wrangling between Glendale and the two taxpayers who are gathering signatures.
If the petition is filed and upheld, then the lease approved by city council last month will go into limbo until November when it will be the subject of a referendum in the municipal election.
Glendale council voted last month to raise its share of sales tax to 2.9 per cent Aug. 1 in an effort to deal with a $35-million deficit as well as a $20-million payment to Jamison for managing the arena. The increase is expected to raise $22-million but is opposed by many business owners. (Including county and state taxes, the current sales tax in Glendale is 9.5 per cent; the increase would take it to more than 10 per cent).
If the tax hike is repealed, it is possible Glendale officials can make other cuts to raise the money to pay Jamison. However, acting city manager Horatio Skeete told the Arizona Republic earlier this week Glendale may not be able to afford the annual management fees owed to Jamison. Glendale spokeswoman Julie Frisoni said Skeete will not comment further on the lease.
At the same time, both candidates for mayor in the November election along with five candidates for council, signed a public letter asking Skeete not to sign the lease with the Coyotes.
Frisoni said it will take city officials several days to ensure the sales-tax petition meets the state legal requirements and the same process will apply to the petition on the arena lease.
NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly did not respond to a request for comment. However, Frisoni said the city is continuing to work on the sale to Jamison and will deal with any other problems "when and if that happens."
Frisoni said the NHL extended its management agreement for Jobing.com Arena by 30 days until Aug. 1 in the expectation the sale will be completed by then.
But Jamison made it clear he needs the arena lease to complete his purchase of the club, which leaves the league with some unpleasant options.
The first is to continue the NHL's ownership of the Coyotes for one more year, which means paying for losses that could be more than $40-million. But unlike the past two years, there will likely be no $25-million payment from Glendale to offset the losses. Frisoni said there has been no discussion of another payment if the NHL can't sell the club.
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has long refused to consider moving the Coyotes. Doing so now would be difficult but not impossible. But the only candidate with an arena that could be whipped into NHL shape quickly is Quebec City and Bettman has never shown enthusiasm for that move.
In some NHL circles, a more drastic solution is envisioned. The Coyotes could simply be folded, its 23 players sent to other NHL teams through a dispersal draft and the league would operate with 29 teams next season.
This would allow the NHL to collect expansion fees of $100-million or more each from Seattle and Quebec City, the top candidates for NHL teams, rather than a single relocation fee of $60-million or so for the Coyotes. That is a gain of at least $140-million.
However, this would create legal headaches with lenders holding the Coyotes franchise as collateral and probably the NHL Players' Association. So the NHL's longest limbo dance will continue for now but a nasty choice could be coming quickly.

Edited by Ray Canuck, 10 July 2012 - 07:37 PM.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:36 PM

It's funny how the Kreskins of the internet world seem to know what Doan will do whereas half the GMs in the league are proceeding as if the possibility of him moving is a reality. I guess the "Doan stays put for sure" camp are all smarter than any one of them, including Gillis.

Just a reminder, as well, that Shea Weber, who is a lot closer to Suter than the CDC soothsayers here are to Doan, was very surprised that Suter chose to flee Nashville.

Again, maybe Doan will sign with PHX, maybe not. But to pretend to know what will really go down is laughable. Doan's first priority is to himself and his family, not the PHX org or his past year's teammates. People leak a lot of white lies in just these situations. The scenario is ripe for it.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:43 PM

sure no one but Shane knows......
If he wanted out I'm sure a lucrative offer could already be signed
He's giving the Yotes every possible advantage to show him the future is secure.
Then and only if will he entertain signing with them.
Should the waters still be murky in the desert then Shane’s going to ply his trade wherever he feels is best for him and his family.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:57 PM

If Shane was as committed to the team as some of you claim, he wouldn't be holding back. We know the team isn't holding back waiting to sign him, so that only leaves one person who could be slowing the process.


I wouldn't proclaim to know what he's thinking but it's reasonable to believe that he does want to play for them but he also wants to know they'll be competitive. They just lost their top scorer in Whitney. Why? Did he not want to stay? Did they not have the money? If they couldn't keep him, where are they going to get more help from?

Doan might realize that his time is closing for a cup - and if the Coyotes can't keep their players then last year might have been their only real chance. I'd think that would be enough of a concern to hold off on signing. It doesn't mean he doesn't want to play there or that he doesn't feel loyal to them, it may just mean that a cup means more to him at this stage.

I think it's fair for him to take the time to think about what he values most at this stage -- signing potentially the last contract of your career with a team that may not be in Phoenix next year or the year after is reason enough to pause.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:03 PM

Bettman has shown that he'll do whatever it takes to keep the Coyotes in Phoenix. Don't expect them to go anywhere.

People can go back and forth on what Doan is thinking. Bottom line is, he's said he wants to stay in Phoenix, and his actions show that.

Just because you want him to be a Canuck, doesn't mean he's going to be.

Edited by DeNiro, 10 July 2012 - 08:04 PM.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:03 PM

Or quite possibly Doan and his agent are playing the "want to stay in PHX" card to juice his contract with other teams since it would be "difficult" for him to leave.

Bottom line is that I or others or you really don't know what Doan is thinking.


I don't think it has to do with money for Doan. He's going to get a good cotract and retire rich no matter where he plays.

He is grappling with...

1) do I stay with the only team I have known; where I will play out my days as captain and have my sweater retired or

2) roll the dice and sign with a contender in the hopes the stars align and I can end my career with a SC ring on my finger.

Tough decision
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:10 PM

I don't think it has to do with money for Doan. He's going to get a good cotract and retire rich no matter where he plays.

He is grappling with...

1) do I stay with the only team I have known; where I will play out my days as captain and have my sweater retired or

2) roll the dice and sign with a contender in the hopes the stars align and I can end my career with a SC ring on my finger.

Tough decision


They call option 2 the "Ray Bourque".
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:16 PM

I don't think it has to do with money for Doan. He's going to get a good cotract and retire rich no matter where he plays.

He is grappling with...

1) do I stay with the only team I have known; where I will play out my days as captain and have my sweater retired or

2) roll the dice and sign with a contender in the hopes the stars align and I can end my career with a SC ring on my finger.

Tough decision


I agree. I also think, if he chooses option (2), a longer term could be more important than yearly $$. If he wants to play, say, another 4 years, he may just want one final contract with a no-trade so he doesn't have to go through the UFA process again.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:23 PM

Simple solution-

Trade for Brenden Morrow.

Edited by KeslerownsIginla, 10 July 2012 - 08:24 PM.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:11 PM

Not from a straight guy bud. Or at least saying it from one guy to another guy... just a little weird. Thats something one guy shouldn't say to another guy.

Can't tell if sarcastic, or just very stupid...
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 11:21 PM

From : http://investdb4.the...ory/currencies/

seeing some are too lazy here's some info on why the failure of petition is only part of the issue regarding the sale!
THE SALE HAS NOT CLEARED ALL HURDLES!!!


Coyotes facing more taxing roadblocks

Petitions on lease and Glendale sales-tax increase clouding franchise's financial future


DAVID SHOALTS0

00:00 EDT Friday, July 06, 2012

Once again, threats to the sale of the Phoenix Coyotes are mounting, which means the NHL is facing some unappetizing choices over the future of the franchise.
A petition to overturn a city sales-tax increase was delivered to suburban Glendale city officials Thursday. That could torpedo Greg Jamison's proposed purchase of the Coyotes from the league.
Another petition to put the lease for Jobing.com Arena, one that is to pay prospective owner Jamison $324-million (all currency U.S.) over 20 years, to a public vote is due either Monday or July 16. The date is the subject of some legal wrangling between Glendale and the two taxpayers who are gathering signatures.
If the petition is filed and upheld, then the lease approved by city council last month will go into limbo until November when it will be the subject of a referendum in the municipal election.
Glendale council voted last month to raise its share of sales tax to 2.9 per cent Aug. 1 in an effort to deal with a $35-million deficit as well as a $20-million payment to Jamison for managing the arena. The increase is expected to raise $22-million but is opposed by many business owners. (Including county and state taxes, the current sales tax in Glendale is 9.5 per cent; the increase would take it to more than 10 per cent).
If the tax hike is repealed, it is possible Glendale officials can make other cuts to raise the money to pay Jamison. However, acting city manager Horatio Skeete told the Arizona Republic earlier this week Glendale may not be able to afford the annual management fees owed to Jamison. Glendale spokeswoman Julie Frisoni said Skeete will not comment further on the lease.
At the same time, both candidates for mayor in the November election along with five candidates for council, signed a public letter asking Skeete not to sign the lease with the Coyotes.
Frisoni said it will take city officials several days to ensure the sales-tax petition meets the state legal requirements and the same process will apply to the petition on the arena lease.
NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly did not respond to a request for comment. However, Frisoni said the city is continuing to work on the sale to Jamison and will deal with any other problems "when and if that happens."
Frisoni said the NHL extended its management agreement for Jobing.com Arena by 30 days until Aug. 1 in the expectation the sale will be completed by then.
But Jamison made it clear he needs the arena lease to complete his purchase of the club, which leaves the league with some unpleasant options.
The first is to continue the NHL's ownership of the Coyotes for one more year, which means paying for losses that could be more than $40-million. But unlike the past two years, there will likely be no $25-million payment from Glendale to offset the losses. Frisoni said there has been no discussion of another payment if the NHL can't sell the club.
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has long refused to consider moving the Coyotes. Doing so now would be difficult but not impossible. But the only candidate with an arena that could be whipped into NHL shape quickly is Quebec City and Bettman has never shown enthusiasm for that move.
In some NHL circles, a more drastic solution is envisioned. The Coyotes could simply be folded, its 23 players sent to other NHL teams through a dispersal draft and the league would operate with 29 teams next season.
This would allow the NHL to collect expansion fees of $100-million or more each from Seattle and Quebec City, the top candidates for NHL teams, rather than a single relocation fee of $60-million or so for the Coyotes. That is a gain of at least $140-million.
However, this would create legal headaches with lenders holding the Coyotes franchise as collateral and probably the NHL Players' Association. So the NHL's longest limbo dance will continue for now but a nasty choice could be coming quickly.


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Posted 11 July 2012 - 12:31 AM

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 01:50 AM

Would love to have this guy. Will be very upset if LA got him. A Stanley Cup winning team should not be allowed to improve!!!!

Our team has lost too many key players since being a Stanley Cup finalist that was put out 2yrs ago.

Collectively: Ehrhoff, Salo, Samuelson, Torres>>>>>>>>Garrison, Booth


Torres contribution to last years stanley cup run is seriously unappreciated by a lot of people....scored big goals, physical and bookended probably the best 3rd line we've seen around in a while
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 01:52 AM

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 07:29 AM

Torres contribution to last years stanley cup run is seriously unappreciated by a lot of people....scored big goals, physical and bookended probably the best 3rd line we've seen around in a while


I agree 100%. Not having him, hurt us last year.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 07:58 AM

Torres contribution to last years stanley cup run is seriously unappreciated by a lot of people....scored big goals, physical and bookended probably the best 3rd line we've seen around in a while


Agree completely. He made defenseman think twice about retrieving puck, something we sorely missed against LA.

This team needs a banger that can actually play.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:22 AM

Agree completely. He made defenseman think twice about retrieving puck, something we sorely missed against LA.

This team needs a banger that can actually play.


Lets all hope we get Doan to teach Kassian how to do it right. It'll be like a 2 for 1 deal.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:23 AM

The situation with the petition is far from over. I wouldn't call it so cut and dry that they've seen the end of it. The future of the Coyotes franchise is still uncertain, and as a result so is Doan's future with the team.

If Shane was as committed to the team as some of you claim, he wouldn't be holding back. We know the team isn't holding back waiting to sign him, so that only leaves one person who could be slowing the process.

His camp has also stated that Doan has turned down an offer from the team. Why would a guy who has already decided he wants to play for a particular team turn down their offer? I think it's safe to assume that the money involved would have been fair and reasonable between two long standing associates.

Actually his agent said the offer was not at the level they want it to be but they felt they could get there through negotiation.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:45 AM

Prepare to be butthurt when he re-signs in Phoenix then. :lol:

Everyone sees the writing on the wall except you I guess.

His agent is accepting offers because he wants to put pressure on the Coyotes to make him a serious offer. If he was done with Phoenix, he wouldn't have given them so much time to try and figure things out. He would have just signed with another team soon after free agency.

Now that the situation is cleared up, and the sale is going to go through, there's nothing to keep him from signing there within the next few days. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Know doubt you are probably right. Question: How many ticket sales at $20 with a beer and fries thrown in does it take to pay Shane Doan's new contract? The team lost $40 M last year without the City's share accounted for. What did the Jamieson Group pay for the franchise
$140 M? How does the ownership convince Doan that they will be there for the term of his new contract? They cannot. Those levels of loss are simply unsustainable. If Doan resigns with PHX it will be a leap of faith for him to do so.

While the likelyhood of Doan resigning is probably high I am holding out hope that Doan wants a real shot at a CUP. The experience of listening to other teams wanting him to move might have made him realize that a move to achieve his dream of a CUP is necessary. He would have that shot with the Canucks so I will dream on....
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:10 AM

This reminds me of the 2008/09 Nashville Predators when they weren't allowed to pick up anybody at the trade deadline due to ownership issues, except the Coyotes situation is 10x worse. Maybe management isn't allowed to offer the 15m or so that it will take to keep Doan in the fold, and that's why he's waiting.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:14 AM

Horatio Skeete. Amazing name.


The best part is: white people don't even know what it means yet.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:34 AM

If the losing money from Bettman pocket, he will relocate it on the next day. The problem is he doesn't care about the money.

Seattle, Quebec City, Markham, and Hamilton would loves to have a NHL teams. Those places will have no problem raising taxes to balance the book of the team.
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