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Mikael Samuelsson puts a lot of the blame on Alex Burrows for Canucks cup loss


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#61 BenDrinkin

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:08 AM

Maybe it WAS Burr's fault they starting assaulting us on the reg, but thats what officials are supposed to be for. Oh well :(
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:13 AM

That Lu quote was sooooooo taken out of context and blown up into something that it wasn't. Lu also went on to say that "Tim playing the way he does is going to make some saves that I won't make and I'll make some that he won't make."
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:24 AM

That Lu quote was sooooooo taken out of context and blown up into something that it wasn't. Lu also went on to say that "Tim playing the way he does is going to make some saves that I won't make and I'll make some that he won't make."


True, and You Tube does have plenty of great Luongo saves, but he should know that anything you say can and wiill be used aginst you in the court of You Tube.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:33 AM

The text is awfully rough in translation and again the sentences are misleading. He said it was hard to leave the guys but had no bigger attachment to the management so it don't bother him any more than that - that he was traded.


Mikael is a straight shooter,especially when he speaks.

He stated : " The management of the club however, I had no high opinion of...." .

Not much to lose in the translation there.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:39 AM

Bruins dressed the toughness and changed their game plan, whether on purpose, or on instinct rallying against the burrows bite or Rome hit. You can forgive the Rome hit but the burrows bite should not have happened. That got the players and fans going. But the last is the past the coaches must talk to the players and hope they understand what wasn't acceptable and everyone has moved on.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:44 AM

I still feel cheated by that series. I accpt that we didnt win but the some of the calls... especially the Rome and Raymond ones for me were completely Bull****


No one sees the Rome hit like you and I do. It was late, it has some contact to the head. But it wasn't the full 1.5 seconds late the NHL review board stated.

Upon further review multiple CDCers and media types have stated the hit was just over 0.5 seconds late. Which doesn't excuse (the minimal) head contact. The hit was directed at the chest area however, and Horton's head was down at the time which made him vulnerable.


Suspension of 1-2 games maximum. Making rome into a goat was not the correct way to handle this problem.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:44 AM

This post is just going to add more fuel to the fire for the "FIRE MG" threads.

I doubt the management has everything to do with being a destination for UFAs. Although, Samuelsson said how Detroit's Management isn't robotic and isn't all about business, which leads to believe that he means Vancouver's Management is. MG is pretty robotic with his interview answers, so I could see what he means. Plus whenever they do arbitration's, the articles always point out how its very professional, and all about business. Some players probably don't like that.

Also need to point out that the weather in Vancouver during the hockey season is crap... all rainy and grey. Most hockey players probably don't mind the snow and cold in other cities. Then there are some cities that are nice and warm. Id say snow and cold is a preference for hockey players, rather than rain and grey. Then I'm pretty sure they would rather be in the nice warm weather than the rain and grey. Plus, our fans are known for treating our players like trash recently.

The upsides this city has over others are that it is in Canada, home games have been selling out in the last few years, and we are in cup contention right now.

I was going to add that it is a nice city... although that is kind of pointless, as all the players in the NHL most likely live in the nicer parts of which ever city they are playing for.... so no matter where they play, its going to be nice where they live.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:44 AM

I agree its a misleading OP title, and his attitude stinks on top of it. He should at least have his warning status increased.

The biting by Alex was overblown. It was Bergeron that was the coward. Burrows was being held back by Refs and players and Bergeron saw an opportunity to shove his stinky mitt into Burrows mouth with no consequences. He didn't just quickly poke him with it either, he grinded it as deep as he could for as long as he could. Alex just used the only weapon he had left to use. Even Don Cherry stuck up for Burrows saying he even bit players himself.

And as has been pointed out we WON that game and the next. Mikael was just speaking off the top of his head and picked an example of the Bruins "waking up".

No, the real question mark in that interview is his apparent disdain for Canuck Management. It could be just a disgruntled player that didn't see his trade coming, but Gillis was supposed to be the Transformer of our team and take it to the Detroit level of which Mikael talks about. A team that players like Mikael WANT to return to.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:45 AM

"I got on very well in Florida, but it was hard to leave Sedins, Alexander Edler and the other guys up in Vancouver.

The management of the club however, I had no high opinion of, so that way it become me." MS

So much for the myth of Gillis and his free agent luring success rate,with what Samuelsson says.

Players talk and it's a small club.

Well I seem to remember Samuelsson grumbling about Detroit's management when he wasn't re-signed by them in 2009, yet look where he just signed, back in Detroit. After Sweden didn't select him for the team... well we all know how he reacted to that. He's just a competitive guy and doesn't like to be slighted by any team he plays for. It's a bit of sour grapes on his part. I don't blame him, as that's just a part of his competitive nature, gives him a bit of a chip on his shoulder. Even though he's saying this, there are a lot more players praising the management in Vancouver, so I'd take that with a grain of salt.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:01 PM

Integrity is dedication and truth. The guy sends arrows into the crowd to commemorate Luc after each goal he scores, and high fives each teamate after every win. How much more do you expect? He's playing opponents that wear razor sharp blades on their feet carrying giant sticks some of whom would not feel guilty about killing. And your worried about biting and pulling hair?


You and I know that about Alex Burrows, but people outside of Vancouver don't care. All they know is that he pulls hair and bites.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:10 PM

Hey another player that disliked the Canucks management. Not surprised.

Edited by TheEhrhoffEffect, 12 July 2012 - 12:11 PM.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:13 PM

You and I know that about Alex Burrows, but people outside of Vancouver don't care. All they know is that he pulls hair and bites.

Hockey fans will always see the negative aspect of things first. It's terrible, but it's true.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:15 PM

It's Burrows that got us out of the first round and it's Burrows who won us game 2 in the finals so whoever thinks its his fault that we lost the finals because of the biting incident needs to give their head a shake.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:47 PM

The Canucks lost because they were outplayed by Boston in game 6 and 7. Simple as that.

Not the finger bite or Rome's hit. Boston was down 2-0 and then 3-2. That was enough motivation for them to fight back.

Let's move on.

Edited by Thrill-House, 12 July 2012 - 12:49 PM.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:47 PM

Forgot to state that burrows scored a game 7 ot goal in the first round to give the Canucks the opportunity to play in the finals, none the less burrows was playing passionate hockey and win or loss if you play with ur heart no one should point a finger
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:11 PM

I thought BS right away. Very rarely does a player call out another player like that
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:20 PM

Hey another player that disliked the Canucks management. Not surprised.


Yeah ok the Canucks are the only team in the NHL to have a couple of players call them out after being traded.
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#78 Smashian Kassian

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:20 PM

After reading the entire article I feel bad for Sturm.

He was really excited to be here, more than the regular player might be after signing on july 1.

And he took the trade as a kick in the teeth given that it was so early in the year.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:26 PM

The article must have been written by a three-year-old. So bad Swedish...
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:41 PM

What got my attention more was that he didn't have a very high opinion of management.

The management of the club however, I had no high opinion of,


Nowhere does he say anything about AV being a good coach, but he certainly feels Babcock is.

What the Mike Babcock leadership makes him unique?- What I remember Mike was his way to coach the team. He talked a lot with our players and knew what he wanted. I liked that way very much. I guess he has not changed that much since I was in Detroit last.


Samuelsson is one of the few players who comes out and says what he thinks (hi Team sweden).
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:46 PM

"I got on very well in Florida, but it was hard to leave Sedins, Alexander Edler and the other guys up in Vancouver.

The management of the club however, I had no high opinion of, so that way it become me." MS

So much for the myth of Gillis and his free agent luring success rate,with what Samuelsson says.

Players talk and it's a small club.


Yes, yes, the myth has been dispelled by a player who was traded in a poorly translated document.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:47 PM

After reading the entire article I feel bad for Sturm.

He was really excited to be here, more than the regular player might be after signing on july 1.

And he took the trade as a kick in the teeth given that it was so early in the year.


Sturm should be happy he got paid what he did. It was a stupid signing.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:51 PM

I think your blowing what he said out of proportion, but whatever lets have fun with it.

If he is indeed running around whining, I hope he's got a Ballard hipcheck waiting for him and a Lapierre smile and finger in his face once he gets up
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:53 PM

Sturm should be happy he got paid what he did. It was a stupid signing.


Ya it was a bad signing but still.

It was so early in the year that it was a kick in the teeth.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:54 PM

Ya it was a bad signing but still.

It was so early in the year that it was a kick in the teeth.


A kick in the teeth would have been the AHL.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:56 PM

What got my attention more was that he didn't have a very high opinion of management.


Nowhere does he say anything about AV being a good coach, but he certainly feels Babcock is.


Samuelsson is one of the few players who comes out and says what he thinks (hi Team sweden).


Probably because AV gave him an ear full for playing like an unmotivated, uninspired turd on some nights. He certainly looked like it. Perhaps AV benched him at times or reduced his minutes but I can't recall. Samuelsson even admitted he only came here for the money, and given he didn't look interested a lot of nights, I can't be too far off.

Won a Cup already. On the downside of his career. Guaranteed millions of dollars. Been there done that.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:01 PM

Great idea, piss off the mods?


lol even if he gets banned it's not that hard to make another account, i know of a few people on these boards that have done it
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:05 PM

lol even if he gets banned it's not that hard to make another account, i know of a few people on these boards that have done it


I'm sure they can IP ban/router gateway ban
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:06 PM

Probably because AV gave him an ear full for playing like an unmotivated, uninspired turd on some nights. He certainly looked like it. Perhaps AV benched him at times or reduced his minutes but I can't recall. Samuelsson even admitted he only came here for the money, and given he didn't look interested a lot of nights, I can't be too far off.

Won a Cup already. On the downside of his career. Guaranteed millions of dollars. Been there done that.


He won a cup with a coach who communicated with his players, told them what he wanted, and worked with them. Then he saw the other side of the coin with AV. I'd want to go back to Detroit too.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:10 PM

He won a cup with a coach who communicated with his players, told them what he wanted, and worked with them. Then he saw the other side of the coin with AV. I'd want to go back to Detroit too.


And AV does none of this?
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