VanGnome Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Derp, I'm at it again. Vancouver: Ryan Johansen Kris Letang Columbus: Marc-Andre Fleury Alexander Edler Brandon Sutter Jordan Schroeder 1st Round Pick (Pittsburgh) Pittsburgh: Roberto Luongo Rick Nash Sign Doan, Huet/Ellis Without Kesler: FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Johansen ($1.945m) / Shane Doan ($5.000m) Mason Raymond ($2.275m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m) Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / DEFENSEMEN Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Kris Letang ($3.500m) Keith Ballard ($4.250m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m) Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) / GOALTENDERS Cory Schneider ($4.000m) Cristobal Huet ($1.500m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,965,000; BONUSES: $1,075,000 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $5,235,000 With Kesler FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Shane Doan ($5.000m) Mason Raymond ($2.275m) / Ryan Johansen ($1.945m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m) Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / DEFENSEMEN Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Kris Letang ($3.500m) Keith Ballard ($4.250m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m) Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) / GOALTENDERS Cory Schneider ($4.000m) Cristobal Huet ($1.500m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,965,000; BONUSES: $1,075,000 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $235,000 Might have to tweak the package that Vancouver sends out, but I think that's a pretty realistic framework Imagine a future line of Jensen-Johansen-Kassian If Ballard has an improved bounce back season, his value rises so we can easily off load him for a no cap hit return and use the money to sign a UFA Weber, not to mention Manny coming off the books and depending on Doan if he signs a 1 or 2 year term if he comes off there's the extra money to re-up Burrows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Phaneuf Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Horrible trade for Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_Kariya28 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Absolutely awful for Pittsburgh, bad for CBJ, and the Canucks come out like bandits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageForever420 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Don't do drugs kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 First of all, if the Canucks were giving up Ballard instead of Edler I would agree with you. Edler is a 1st pairing defenceman in Columbus, Marc-Andre Fleury is miles above what they have for goaltending and is only a few steps below Luongo, Brandon Sutter was the major component in the Staal trade. Canucks lose/gain: Luongo, Edler, Schroeder/Johansen, Letang Pittsburgh lose/gain: MA Fleury, Letang, Sutter, 1st/Luongo, Nash Columbus lose/gain: Nash, Johansen/MA Fleury, Edler, Sutter, Shroeder, 1st Now, how exactly do the Canucks make out like bandits? Luongo all but guaranteed to move out of Vancouver does not diminish the intrinsic value of his skill and abilities. Edler is a top pairing defenceman on most teams, most assuredly in Columbus and Shroeder has the ability to be a very solid 2-way center. Likely not to be a top flight center, but certainly good enough to be on the 2nd line. Pittsburgh gives up the most in terms of number of assets, but also gets the highest degree of skill in return. Luongo has 4-5 good years left in him imo, and Nash certainly has at least that if not more. You're insane if you don't think Luongo and Nash make Pittsburgh into a scary mother-f'n team in the east. I fail to see how any one team is losing big time in this deal. 2/3 responses have declared this as a horrible trade for Pittsburgh, if so you are way undervaluing what Luongo and Nash bring that team compared to what they are giving up (#1 goalie, Top 4 defenceman, #2 center (on most young teams) and a late 1st round pick. 1/3 has declared this as a bad trade for Columbus, in the initial deal giving up Johansen and Nash with a return of Edler, Fleury, Sutter, Schroeder AND a 1st round pick. Each of these deals makes each respective team stronger. I would love to see anyone else come up with a more balanced 3 way hockey trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
our time is now Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 To Van: weber , parise To Min:Ballard van 1st To Nash: raymond minny 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Why would Pittsburgh do this? Their defence is bad enough with Letang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 To Van: weber , parise To Min:Ballard van 1st To Nash: raymond minny 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gragnanifan1 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 To Van: weber , parise To Min:Ballard van 1st To Nash: raymond minny 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 @ Jag, I just realized how really thin their blueline depth really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Yeah, they would be rolling a D core of Orpik- Niskanen Martin- Lovejoy Engelland- Despres That would go down as one of the worst in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Hmm. Vancouver: Chris Kunitz Craig Adams Colton Gillies Pittsburgh Rick Nash Roberto Luongo Alexander Edler Columbus MA Fleury Brandon Sutter Jordan Shroeder Pittsburgh 1st Gillies and Adams add 4th line size and grit, Kunitz fills out our Top 6 (though admittedly he is a LW and not exactly in our needs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksbiggestfan Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Hmm. Vancouver: Chris Kunitz Craig Adams Colton Gillies Pittsburgh Rick Nash Roberto Luongo Alexander Edler Columbus MA Fleury Brandon Sutter Jordan Shroeder Pittsburgh 1st Gillies and Adams add 4th line size and grit, Kunitz fills out our Top 6 (though admittedly he is a LW and not exactly in our needs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 This deal sucks for Vancouver, while the other teams would be celebrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Phaneuf Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Still dumb. Are you 10 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Columbus gets an Amazing deal. Pittsburgh's is okay, I wouldnt do it. and I for sure wouldn't do ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 LOL Propose trade "Canucks make out like bandits, trade is crap for other two teams!!!" Propose nearly identical trade "BAD TRADE FOR CANUCKS OTHER TEAMS WIN LOTTERYZZZZZ" Where the Frig is the middle ground with you lunatics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksbiggestfan Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 LOL Propose trade "Canucks make out like bandits, trade is crap for other two teams!!!" Propose nearly identical trade "BAD TRADE FOR CANUCKS OTHER TEAMS WIN LOTTERYZZZZZ" Where the Frig is the middle ground with you lunatics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 To Van: weber , parise To Min:Ballard van 1st To Nash: raymond minny 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Hmm. Vancouver: Chris Kunitz Craig Adams Colton Gillies Pittsburgh Rick Nash Roberto Luongo Alexander Edler Columbus MA Fleury Brandon Sutter Jordan Shroeder Pittsburgh 1st Gillies and Adams add 4th line size and grit, Kunitz fills out our Top 6 (though admittedly he is a LW and not exactly in our needs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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