Heretic Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Religion and social norms seem to be the leading reasons it seems. It's not about what I like and what I don't like....it has to do with putting a baby through an unnecessary surgery, when it's been shown and common knowledge in the medical community that it's unnecessary. The parents who dismiss the knowledge from the medical and research community in order to serve their religious dogmas or for aesthetic purposes, are very much willfully ignoring sound expert knowledge, or they simply don't bother to pay attention to the evidence or the reasoning behind not circumcising their children, whether male or female, then that is the very definition of the word ignorance. If your reasoning is based solely on religious grounds...then say so....but don't try to mask your personal decision in the past or the decisions of parents today as being a medically necessary one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdawg Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Just leave your boy's penis alone and they'll be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 The problem is that you are railing against everything. How about putting up something positive instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 If god wanted the foreskin removed, we wouldn't be born with foreskin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I tried reading through the whole thread, but started to get a headache. Jesus. If god wanted the foreskin removed, we wouldn't be born with foreskin. Don't play god. Leave his creation in tact. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Boom. Winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 There goes blood transfusions, stem cell research all blown out the window cuz if God wanted it it would already be provided. There goes breast implants , birth control, oh well I guess I could list 156,432,342 other things too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdawg Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 How is speaking out against male child abuse considerd innapropriate Hockyville 88? If you didn't notice 100% of the players in the NHL are men, so how are you to judge anything to do with men, espescially circumcision??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 You sound no different than circumcision propaganda I grew up with. It's funny how eerily similar you sound. Whatever people believe personally I don't care, it's the parental interference I'm taking issue with. Male circumcision is not harmful to a male boy unless incorrectly done. Female circumcision automatically removes at minimum some of at least one organ that is the main part of female sexual pleasure, not merely the skin. It's more aptly comparable to removal of some of the glans. It's hilarious how much one ignores here as part of their agenda to tell parents how to be parents. I'm married to a nurse who also specialises in paediatrics, why would I need to "look it up"? I don't have an axe to grind in this debate. I don't need "reasons" to circumcise my boys because I chose not to. Surprise! I'm just tired of this type of parental interference this camp is espousing and it has little reason to do with medical health, it's about, as George Carlin says, "???? with people" and seeing how far you can go to make parental decisions for others. Funny how when anatomically defining these circumstances now it's a piece of flesh, while talking about removal of a boy's foreskin in circumcision, it's mutilation. I've already explained how they are different in execution with which parts are removed, you just asked a question the post you quoted answered, so I doubt you have any vested interest in educating yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 How about removing skin from a leg? Arm? Buttock? Why is it so acceptable to take "merely the skin" from a penis? Not all female circumcision is the same. It's too bad there's not much else to cut off on a penis, otherwise I bet it would be gone too. What is hilarious is how much you focus on the physical differences and disregard all other aspects associated with the practices. Physical and mental trauma to the child? Check. Life-long changes in the function of a sex organ? Check. Violated bodily integrity? Check. Same sexual organs mutilated? Not a check. Show's over, go home everyone. Male circumcision is harmful, even when done correctly. At best, it is completely unnecessary and at worst it ruins their sex life before they say their first word. Why? Because the parents liked the look? This isn't about parental influence. What the hell are you talking about? You think I want parents to have less control over how they raise their children? All because all I don't want them doing is cutting their penises for arbitrary reasons? Really? It is a piece of flesh and cutting it is mutilation. Where's the confusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 None of those are considering removing parts of the body? Regular babies are not born needing any of those things done to their body either. I don't know how those things even compare? And I'm fairly sure that breast implants are not done as a medical necessity and that god would not want you to have them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpe Diem Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I guess you're against body piercings and tattoos as well? BTW - my sex life is just find thanks. (I know TMI) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdawg Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I guess you're against body piercings and tattoos as well? BTW - my sex life is just find thanks. (I know TMI) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I am, anyone with atleast half a brain knows that injecting aircraft paint into your skin and pieircing holes in yourself is strictly for MORONS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Are you ok with a parent giving their babies body piercings and tattoos? It's a serious question. Nobody has any objections to adults choosing to perform circumscition for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 God made tumours that develop from various cancers. Shouldn't remove those either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 I guess you're against body piercings and tattoos as well? BTW - my sex life is just find thanks. (I know TMI) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 And then I get suspended after being repeatedly trolled by you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Then maybe it's time for you to take a chill pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I'm married to a nurse who also specialises in paediatrics, why would I need to "look it up"? I don't have an axe to grind in this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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