Drybone Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 And.... we have a winner!!!! Thank you for stating the obvious. Can you see Raymond playing for Philadelphia,Boston or Pittsburgh on their second line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMacNamedDre Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Human Growth Hormone and Gary Roberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Hi. If he got his act together? Played up to his potential? Of course. Its my guess so does Gillis or he would have traded his rights or let him walk instead of going through all that hassle to re sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I believe Raymond and Booth will start the season strong if we find a good 2C while Kes is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
our time is now Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I think he could be a part off a weber trade To Van; weber To Nash: Raymond Ballard 1st (2013) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Bang Boogie Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 But Raymond broke his back for us! But..but he's responsible defensively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Come on Baggins, you know that Hamhuis doesn't fall down nearly as often as Raymond does. When a player falls down so often you can create a drinking game, that's a sign the guy needs to work on his core conditioning, or get a different type of skate or type of blades, or needs to go a skill camp and work on his stance and stability. Yes it's sick seeing these threads repeat I agree with you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjkaemingh Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 been there, done that. AV already tried this. Not so successfuly. The best place for Raymond is off this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Have you ever watched a game? Do you actually think centres "stay in the middle"???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 The OP has a good suggestion to place Raymond at center if he can win faceoffs or play center after the faceoff is dropped. He is good defensively and that is the only reason we have kept him this long. The reality is he needs to step up his game at the NHL level or play in Europe where he can be a superstar. We have waited long enough for him to develop. We also should reap the rewards for our commitment to his development. I hope Mason understands that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I think he could be a part off a weber trade To Van; weber To Nash: Raymond Ballard 1st (2013) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Raymond gets points by being a pure winger. His 2010 season was entirely 2 plays: Kesler getting deep and feeding the puck cross ice to Raymond and getting a nearly empty net, or Raymond shooting from sharp angles with surprisingly good effect. That's it. Raymond's play dropped off because Kesler's play dropped off and he didn't quarterback the 2nd line playmaking. He also had a less effective shot which left less rebounds for Mayray to swoop in and jam into the empty net. A winger without a dynamic centre is going to be stuck just going up and down the ice. Booth suffered the exact same fate last season and no one seems to have clued in to the common denominator. If Kesler regains his form, MayRay and Boothy will be racking up goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I think he could be a part off a weber trade To Van; weber To Nash: Raymond Ballard 1st (2013) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I think he could be a part off a weber trade To Van; weber To Nash: Raymond Ballard 1st (2013) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 That's a great proposal. We may need to add Lu as the throw in because Nashville might want Lu to mentor Rinne as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everybody Hates Raymond Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I may hate on Raymond a lot but here's some food for thought... So Raymond is; - a guy who had one good year - should be traded for anything we can get - is "useless" - Gillis doesn't know what he's doing by resigning him - etc etc etc Remember the last time this happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thLineGrinder Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 someone needs to invent "CHEESEBURGER PIE" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 The only solution for Raymond is the obvious one here guys and that is to drag him through the streets of Vancouver naked and hand out buggy whips to all the kids and have them whip him as he drug by. Then string him up outside of Gate 3 of Roger's Arena as a lesson to anyone wanting to be a Canuck that underpreforming on this hockey team is completely unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 "Oddly, Raymond had the best Corsi rating on the team last year and again has strong Corsi stats this year. So, when Raymond is on the ice, he may be be falling down alot and losing the puck in the offensive zone, but his corsi numbers show he's also got the puck alot and his defence is suppressing shots against his goaltender. Simply put, his team has a greater chance to score than to be scored against when he's on the ice to the highest degree on the team. A team that is filled with some pretty good players. I assume that's what value he brings and that keeps him in the top 6 or 9." Larry Goodenough Canuckscorner.com Found this, thought it was pertinent. Him falling down negates his positives of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 "Oddly, Raymond had the best Corsi rating on the team last year and again has strong Corsi stats this year. So, when Raymond is on the ice, he may be be falling down alot and losing the puck in the offensive zone, but his corsi numbers show he's also got the puck alot and his defence is suppressing shots against his goaltender. Simply put, his team has a greater chance to score than to be scored against when he's on the ice to the highest degree on the team. A team that is filled with some pretty good players. I assume that's what value he brings and that keeps him in the top 6 or 9." Larry Goodenough Canuckscorner.com Found this, thought it was pertinent. Him falling down negates his positives of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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