WHL rocks Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Doan's price will be more than $6 million per year on a 4 or more year term. He will get grossly overpaid as most UFA's do. Paying this high a price for a 35+ player on a multi year deal is not a good idea. I do not think Canucks will be announcing the signing of Shane Doan any time soon. MG will not and should not offer the type of money and term other teams will be willing to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 A lot of things appear to be hinged on what happens with Doan. Where he signs will affect what the Canucks try to get in the assumed Luongo deal, and it will affect what kind of cap space the Canucks have to sign any any other free agents (such as Arnott). Hopefully he signs soon so Gillis can get on with the rest of the off-season wheelings and dealings. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islandboss Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Doan's price will be more than $6 million per year on a 4 or more year term. He will get grossly overpaid as most UFA's do. Paying this high a price for a 35+ player on a multi year deal is not a good idea. I do not think Canucks will be announcing the signing of Shane Doan any time soon. MG will not and should not offer the type of money and term other teams will be willing to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tequila Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 keslers spot should he not start the season, will most likely be Schroeder's and then we will have manny and lappy as natural centers. Manny isnt going anywhere, and him playing 4th line wing makes a lot less sense than 3rd C. With that said I would be all for getting a different 3rd line C, but Id rather it be someone young and cheap yet still effective. Im not saying we should or will get matthias, but he could be a good option with 1 year remaining on his ELC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningWild Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Not sure if posted yet, article: "Phoenix Coyotes sale to Greg Jamison may be on thin ice" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 honestly i'd like 6-8 of the canucks forwards to be natural centers. look at team canada 2010, the 2011 boston bruins, 2012 kings, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshinefe Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 for a year or two? sure. the guy's 6'5" 220lbs with a cup ring and had 17 goals last year. it's only been 2 or 3 years since he scored at a 60 point clip. he has almost 1000 career points. he's been a captain in the league. the canucks are terribly shallow at center ice. kesler won't be 100% until december. if mason raymond took a pay cut to get $2.2 and you're willing to give doan $5 for 5 years, then arnott is a hell of a deal at $3 for a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshinefe Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 At the end of the day, the Canucks need a guy like Jochen Hecht, Arnott or Morrison more than a guy like Doan. We have plenty of powerforward wingers for our top-6 (Burrows, Booth, Higgins, Hansen) and just not enough centermen, especially with Kesler most likely chugging at a slower pace than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Exactly what I've been saying for a long time. The main ingredients of a Cup winner is a solid #1 top pairing on defence, a world-class goalie and depth down the middle. Since our 2011 Cup run, we basically lost 2 big centermen. Hodgson is gone and has not been replaced, and Malhotra is not the same as he used to be, so essentially our center ice position is a lot weaker. Now factor in an ageing Henrik who has most likely hit his prime that season, and Kesler who is constantly injured and you have a terrible center position. What was once our strongest asset is now dwindling and MG has done nothing to fix it. Firstly, we need to find an offensive centerman for our 3rd line to keep up with Raymond and Hansen who can both score 15-20 goals next season. That gives us 5 NHL centermen playing in our lineup which is much stronger depth. If MG isn't going to pick us up a nice 3rd line center who can score 30-40 points then guys like Raymond and Higgins better start practicing how to be centermen. They've both played the position in the past so better get used to it again, because you win Cups with depth at center ice, not wing which is what we're stacked with right now. At the end of the day, the Canucks need a guy like Jochen Hecht, Arnott or Morrison more than a guy like Doan. We have plenty of powerforward wingers for our top-6 (Burrows, Booth, Higgins, Hansen) and just not enough centermen, especially with Kesler most likely chugging at a slower pace than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Isn't it sad that if Gary didn't have his knickers in a knot about Balsillie the Yote's would probably be in Hamilton right now. Making the league millions, and saving the owners grief and money. Shouldn't the owners at least be extremely choked how he's handled this, and how he'd rather let questionable ownership than someone that actually has money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 then i'm incredibly glad you're not an nhl general manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Giraffe Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Exactly what I've been saying for a long time. The main ingredients of a Cup winner is a solid #1 top pairing on defence, a world-class goalie and depth down the middle. Since our 2011 Cup run, we basically lost 2 big centermen. Hodgson is gone and has not been replaced, and Malhotra is not the same as he used to be, so essentially our center ice position is a lot weaker. Now factor in an ageing Henrik who has most likely hit his prime that season, and Kesler who is constantly injured and you have a terrible center position. What was once our strongest asset is now dwindling and MG has done nothing to fix it. Firstly, we need to find an offensive centerman for our 3rd line to keep up with Raymond and Hansen who can both score 15-20 goals next season. That gives us 5 NHL centermen playing in our lineup which is much stronger depth. If MG isn't going to pick us up a nice 3rd line center who can score 30-40 points then guys like Raymond and Higgins better start practicing how to be centermen. They've both played the position in the past so better get used to it again, because you win Cups with depth at center ice, not wing which is what we're stacked with right now. At the end of the day, the Canucks need a guy like Jochen Hecht, Arnott or Morrison more than a guy like Doan. We have plenty of powerforward wingers for our top-6 (Burrows, Booth, Higgins, Hansen) and just not enough centermen, especially with Kesler most likely chugging at a slower pace than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 keslers spot should he not start the season, will most likely be Schroeder's and then we will have manny and lappy as natural centers. Manny isnt going anywhere, and him playing 4th line wing makes a lot less sense than 3rd C. With that said I would be all for getting a different 3rd line C, but Id rather it be someone young and cheap yet still effective. Im not saying we should or will get matthias, but he could be a good option with 1 year remaining on his ELC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 And you are happy with this? Schroeder as our second line C with 0 (zero) NHL games played? Behind him M & L who are 4th liners at best? Again. Are you happy with this? This has to be the worst C depth in the league. At minimum this team needs another top 6 play-maker and hopefully MG is aware of that. Last year, even with Kesler we had problems scoring. Unless we upgrade our top 6 Fowards we'll struggle to reach playoffs. What I'm reading here Doan $6 million/ 4 years? $5 million/ 5 years? He is 35 not 25! Everything more than $4 million/ 2 years is over-overpayment! I would like to have him on this team but after a playmaker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Exactly what I've been saying for a long time. The main ingredients of a Cup winner is a solid #1 top pairing on defence, a world-class goalie and depth down the middle. Since our 2011 Cup run, we basically lost 2 big centermen. Hodgson is gone and has not been replaced, and Malhotra is not the same as he used to be, so essentially our center ice position is a lot weaker. Now factor in an ageing Henrik who has most likely hit his prime that season, and Kesler who is constantly injured and you have a terrible center position. What was once our strongest asset is now dwindling and MG has done nothing to fix it. Firstly, we need to find an offensive centerman for our 3rd line to keep up with Raymond and Hansen who can both score 15-20 goals next season. That gives us 5 NHL centermen playing in our lineup which is much stronger depth. If MG isn't going to pick us up a nice 3rd line center who can score 30-40 points then guys like Raymond and Higgins better start practicing how to be centermen. They've both played the position in the past so better get used to it again, because you win Cups with depth at center ice, not wing which is what we're stacked with right now. At the end of the day, the Canucks need a guy like Jochen Hecht, Arnott or Morrison more than a guy like Doan. We have plenty of powerforward wingers for our top-6 (Burrows, Booth, Higgins, Hansen) and just not enough centermen, especially with Kesler most likely chugging at a slower pace than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Doan's price will be more than $6 million per year on a 4 or more year term. He will get grossly overpaid as most UFA's do. Paying this high a price for a 35+ player on a multi year deal is not a good idea. I do not think Canucks will be announcing the signing of Shane Doan any time soon. MG will not and should not offer the type of money and term other teams will be willing to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 You probably won't like the rumour from the Hockey Hearsay article on Sportsnet. Detroit is out of the race for Doan. They believe some team(s) in East has made a 4 year 30 million dollar offer....I like Shane Doan but a 7.5 million cap hit? That's a spicy meatball! http://www.sportsnet...hockey_hearsay/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyroglyphixs Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 What I'm reading here Doan $6 million/ 4 years? $5 million/ 5 years? He is 35 not 25! Everything more than $4 million/ 2 years is over-overpayment! I would like to have him on this team but after a playmaker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Big_Guy Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Im never one to reply or post in fact this may be my second post of all time Im not entirely sure but you can all take this with a grain of salt. Today is the Kamloops Blazers Alumni Golf Tournament and ofcourse Shane Doan is attending. This is obviously not ground breaking news. The interesting tidbit is that Mike Gillis is partaking in the tournament and supposedly as a guest of Shane Doans. Again read into it what you like. It may mean nothing at all or could be something to look forward to. Just a little something to add to the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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