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#1 spacekadet

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:34 AM

http://www.forbes.co...e-sports-teams/


Was on yahoo today and stumbled upon this list. thought it was a little ridiclous that 32 football teams make it and not one hockey team.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:44 AM

How about Manchester United being worth 2.3 billion :shock:
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:12 AM

http://www.forbes.co...e-sports-teams/


Was on yahoo today and stumbled upon this list. thought it was a little ridiclous that 32 football teams make it and not one hockey team.


football is way more popular than hockey.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:12 AM

I thought for sure Toronto would have been on that list, but ya think of how many people you can fit into a football or baseball stadium vs a hockey arena??

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:14 AM

I think so . Soccer is so huge in Europe its insane . They pack so many people in there. Hockey cant compete with that.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:16 AM

Check the ratings, football crushes..
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:16 AM

football is way more popular than hockey.


But that's not why the teams are valued so much higher, it is only because the NFL teams get a cut of the massive TV deals that the NFL has. About 2/3rds of all revenue comes from TV, with the other 1/3rd coming from ticket, jersey sales and other streams. The NFL knows how to sell it's product much better than any of the other North American sports, and the team owners are the beneficiaries.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:25 AM

I thought for sure Toronto would have been on that list, but ya think of how many people you can fit into a football or baseball stadium vs a hockey arena??


85 000 seater at Real Madrid and nearly 100 000 at Barcelona, then there is the merchandise, TV contracts etc. The Yankees, Manchester, Madrid, etc. are also WORLD - renowned. It really isn't too surprising that zero hockey teams made it.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:26 AM

Why is this Canuck talk, sorry to sound like a douche..

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:29 AM

http://www.forbes.co...united/#content

i think this link is better


i would like it better if there was just a list from 1-50.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:42 AM

I dont disagree with soccer. Soccer is probably the biggest sport in the world. It just surprises me that football Which i see as a purely American sport gets every team on their and not places like vancouver montreal boston ny toronto. I see hockey as a bigger global market than football.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:43 AM

http://www.forbes.co...united/#content

i think this link is better


i would like it better if there was just a list from 1-50.


I agree that site is has so many ads and slow to go through

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:44 AM

Canucks should move into bc place, they'd fill that no problem, 40,000 ppl for average home games

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:44 AM

But that's not why the teams are valued so much higher, it is only because the NFL teams get a cut of the massive TV deals that the NFL has. About 2/3rds of all revenue comes from TV, with the other 1/3rd coming from ticket, jersey sales and other streams. The NFL knows how to sell it's product much better than any of the other North American sports, and the team owners are the beneficiaries.


As he said, NFL is way more popular than NHL. If NHL were popular it would have TV deals. Right now the only national broadcast deal the NHL has is NBC Sports and that is a premium only channel. There is a reason ESPN didn't renew their broadcast deal: nobody watches hockey in the US.

The US market has the benefit of numbers, but put hockey fans in terms of the percentage of the population compared with other sports nobody cares. I don't even know if hockey beats out soccer down there.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:48 AM

http://www.forbes.co...e-sports-teams/


Was on yahoo today and stumbled upon this list. thought it was a little ridiclous that 32 football teams make it and not one hockey team.


Why? There are NHL franchises that can't be given away.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:48 AM

Is there a link where we can see all teams and their values at the same time on a list?

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:09 AM

How about Manchester United being worth 2.3 billion :shock:

I wonder if we could steal the team, hold them hostage, and sell them back. Don't worry, maybe if we only ask for 1 billion :bigblush:

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:12 AM

I wonder if we could steal the team, hold them hostage, and sell them back. Don't worry, maybe if we only ask for 1 billion :bigblush:


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:12 AM

Canucks should move into bc place, they'd fill that no problem, 40,000 ppl for average home games


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:15 AM

As he said, NFL is way more popular than NHL. If NHL were popular it would have TV deals. Right now the only national broadcast deal the NHL has is NBC Sports and that is a premium only channel. There is a reason ESPN didn't renew their broadcast deal: nobody watches hockey in the US.

The US market has the benefit of numbers, but put hockey fans in terms of the percentage of the population compared with other sports nobody cares. I don't even know if hockey beats out soccer down there.


The individual NFL teams are worth so much money because they all share the TV deals. If the all the MLB teams got a cut of the TV deals, you'd see a lot more baseball teams on that list. It does have to do with popularity, but if not for the revenue sharing system the NFL has in place, half of the NFL franchises wouldn't be nearly as high on the list as they are now, and the other half would be higher.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:16 AM

For those of you who don't want to go through all those pictures, here's a link with a list of the teams and their value:
http://www.nowpublic...st-2958191.html

Edited by kessywessy, 18 July 2012 - 11:17 AM.


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:24 AM

I dont disagree with soccer. Soccer is probably the biggest sport in the world. It just surprises me that football Which i see as a purely American sport gets every team on their and not places like vancouver montreal boston ny toronto. I see hockey as a bigger global market than football.


It's about which teams are WORTH THE MOST not "hmm, we have alot of football teams on here.....*bleep* it!, let's put a hockey team on the list just because!"

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:28 AM

Is there a link where we can see all teams and their values at the same time on a list?


No, but I hate that website, so I'll list them so no one has to click through that horrible slide show like I did:

No.1 Manchester United Value: $1.86 billion

No. 2 Dallas Cowboys Value: $1.81 billion

No. 3 New York Yankees Value: $1.7 billion

No. 4 Washington Redskins Value: $1.55 billion

No. 5 Real Madrid Value: $1.45 billion

No. 6 New England Patriots Value: $1.37 billion

No. 7 Arsenal Value: $1.19 billion

No. 8 New York Giants Value: $1.18 billion

No. 9 Houston Texans Value: $1.17 billion

No. 10 New York Jets Value: $1.14 billion

No. 11 Philadelphia Eagles Value: $1.12 billion

No. 12 Baltimore Ravens Value: $1.07 billion

No. 13 Ferrari Value: $1.07 billion

No. 14 Chicago Bears Value: $1.07 billion

No. 15 Denver Broncos Value: $1.05 billion

No. 16 Indianapolis Colts Value: $1.04 billion

No. 17 Carolina Panthers Value: $1.04 billio

No. 18 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Value: $1.03 billion

No. 19 Bayern Munich Value: $1.03 billion

No. 20 Green Bay Packers Value: $1.02 billion

No. 21 Cleveland Browns Value: $1.02 billion

No. 22 Miami Dolphins Value: $1.01 billion

No. 23 Pittsburgh Steelers Value: $996 million

No. 24 Tennessee Titans Value: $994 million

No. 25 Seattle Seahawks Value: $989 million

No. 26 Barcelona Value: $975 million

No. 27 Kansas City Chiefs Value: $965 million

No. 28 New Orleans Saint sValue: $955 million

No. 29 San Francisco 49er sValue: $925 million

No. 30 Arizona Cardinals Value: $919 million

No. 31 Boston Red Sox Value: $912 million

No. 32 San Diego Chargers Value: $907 million

No. 33 Cincinnati Bengals Value: $905 million

No. 34 AC Milan Value: $838 million

No. 35 Atlanta Falcons Value: $831 million

No. 36 Detroit Lions Value: $817 million

No. 37 McLaren Value: $815 million

No. 38 Los Angeles Dodgers Value: $800 million

No. 39 Buffalo Bills Value: $799 million

No. 40 St. Louis Rams Value: $779 million

No. 41 Minnesota Vikings Value: $774 million

No. 42 Chicago Cubs Value: $773 million

No. 43 Oakland Raiders Value: $758 million

No. 44 New York Mets Value: $747 million

No. 45 Jacksonville Jaguars Value: $725 million

No. 46 Chelsea Value: $658 million

No. 47 New York Knicks Value: $655 million

No. 48 Los Angeles Lakers Value: $643 million

No. 49 Juventus Value: $628 million

No. 50 Philadelphia Phillies Value: $609 million

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:30 AM

Darn, someone found a link. My list doesn't have a bunch of pop-ups though B)

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:36 AM

Wow all 4 NFC east teams in the top 11.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:51 AM

Remember the NHL playoff numbers last year? How many people watched the supposedly "toughest trophy to win in all sports"? like... 2,000?

The 1000th repeat of Pawn Stars, S01E04 had more viewers than NHL stanley cup finals.

Not even hockey fans care about hockey, some of the time. But in America, the superbowl is like a cultural event, regardless of which teams are involved.

Those soccer teams have really misleading numbers. Real Madrid, Manchester United, for example, are so heavily crippled by debt, it's hard to believe they're valued so high. God bless those asian markets!

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:54 AM

http://www.forbes.co...e-sports-teams/


Was on yahoo today and stumbled upon this list. thought it was a little ridiclous that 32 football teams make it and not one hockey team.

So wait, the Canucks aren't on the list? Why is this in Canucks Talk then?

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:55 AM

What does this have to do with the Canucks?

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

But that's not why the teams are valued so much higher, it is only because the NFL teams get a cut of the massive TV deals that the NFL has. About 2/3rds of all revenue comes from TV, with the other 1/3rd coming from ticket, jersey sales and other streams. The NFL knows how to sell it's product much better than any of the other North American sports, and the team owners are the beneficiaries.




Manchester United are sold throughout Asia......a massive market. They make tours to China and Japan and the USA. They make nearly $30M a year from Nike alone. They have 27............. TWENTY SEVEN main sponsors. These sponsors come from India, Pakistan, China, Japan, Germany, Turkey and of course Chevrolet in the USA.

As you allude to Man Untd get a cut of the TV deal. That is currently $1.5 Billion / year for the next 3 years (split between 20 EPL Clubs). Also that does not cover Man Untd'S own TV Channel sold worldwide. Some of you may even have it.

On top of that there is all the gate revenues and prize money they get for things like winning or progressing to domestic cup finals and European Championship Finals.

On the NHL revenue and popularity theme. The NHL scored a massive own goal when they sold the viewing rights to a 3rd rate nobody. They obviously had their reasons. However under ESPN America the NHL took off massively in Europe. Many of these fans have been lost to the NHL.

On merchandise, again Club jerseys and other merchandise are like hen's teeth. That is why so many fakes are advertised and bought on ebay over here. I'm afraid the NHL has a very parochial outlook when it comes to developing what is a fantastic game. I had to wait 6 moths to get my jersey brought from R.I.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:25 PM

So wait, the Canucks aren't on the list? Why is this in Canucks Talk then?


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