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#31 Joel Heyman

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:23 PM

I agree with JLumme sort of, Doughty is a tool and I could see his type doing that, but this has a good bit of stink factor, the girl is lying.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:36 PM

Oh my! Please show me what evidence you have that,

a.) the female is full of it, and b.) Doughty was falsely accused.

I, for one, am tired of hearing about the poor hockey, baseball, football player that "didn't do it, the b**** is out for $$$$$"



"the district attorney’s office and police have “found credibility problems"


OMG we could've had McKeown!

I think Virtanen was a terrible pick given that he's out for 6 months which will hinder his development. You don't pick someone at #6 under that circumstance, along with the fact that he was given a 3/5 IQ (aka he's dumb). 

God dammit Benning. WHY VIRTANEN? Terrible move.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:43 PM

"Falsely accused"? The article states very clearly in the first sentence :



That doesn't mean it didn't happen, it just means they didn't have enough evidence to charge him and get a conviction. Nowhere have the authorities involved said the girl lied or fabricated anything.

Some of the comments in this thread are just plain, flat out, disgusting.


Try reading more than the first sentence.

"the district attorney’s office and police have “found credibility problems"


What do you suppose credibility problems refer to?

Instead of finding the comments 'flat out disgusting', think about what the most likely outcome is.

It is impossible to prove a negative. If there is not enough evidence, the most logical conclusion is that it didn't happen. Are you really going to try to argue that this incident did happen? What evidence do you have? Are you more competent or qualified than the detectives involved in the case or the DA? What reason did the victim have to be uncooperative (again, read the article)? Why would the woman lack credibility? These are rhetorical questions by the way. I know you don't have an answer for them. The fact that you cannot answer them though, should suggest to you that on the balance of probabilities (not even the 'reasonable doubt' threshold', Doughty did not do it.

Edited by Down by the River, 19 July 2012 - 05:53 PM.

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I think Virtanen was a terrible pick given that he's out for 6 months which will hinder his development. You don't pick someone at #6 under that circumstance, along with the fact that he was given a 3/5 IQ (aka he's dumb). 

God dammit Benning. WHY VIRTANEN? Terrible move.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:53 PM

"Falsely accused"? The article states very clearly in the first sentence :



That doesn't mean it didn't happen, it just means they didn't have enough evidence to charge him and get a conviction. Nowhere have the authorities involved said the girl lied or fabricated anything.

Some of the comments in this thread are just plain, flat out, disgusting.


Two sides of that coin. Also doesn't mean it did happen. And with the woman's "credibility problems", the evidence that has been released (of course we don't have all the information) seems to be leaning in the didn't happen direction.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:05 PM

This is what happens when dudes just chase after T&A while women chase douchey hockey players.

Sounds like these two dummies deserve each other.


Agreed ^^

No offense to any lady who will read this but.... She turns him down in front of everyone in the bar but then decides to get in a cab with him to her house and then she claims rape ? She clearly new his intentions if he propositioned her in front of a few teammates openly and then she willingly goes home with him ? In now way shape or form do I think (if the allegations are true) Doughty is innocent or condone any such vile act, but neither is she for being completely ignorant. This girl was asking for trouble hangin' with scum like Doughty. If he was a descent guy maybe his teammates wouldn't have told the Police he propositioned her in front of them ?

All the people speculating on the validity of this alleged act really need to wake up and realize you have no clue and will never have a clue as to what really happened.

There will always be three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the actual truth.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:19 PM

I believe what the cops won't say and she is trying not to say is "By Rape, I mean he didn't pay me before he left"

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:20 PM

Agreed ^^

No offense to any lady who will read this but.... She turns him down in front of everyone in the bar but then decides to get in a cab with him to her house and then she claims rape ? She clearly new his intentions if he propositioned her in front of a few teammates openly and then she willingly goes home with him ? In now way shape or form do I think (if the allegations are true) Doughty is innocent or condone any such vile act, but neither is she for being completely ignorant. This girl was asking for trouble hangin' with scum like Doughty. If he was a descent guy maybe his teammates wouldn't have told the Police he propositioned her in front of them ?

All the people speculating on the validity of this alleged act really need to wake up and realize you have no clue and will never have a clue as to what really happened.

There will always be three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the actual truth.


While I question the woman's complaints based on the fact the police and DA did not find her to be credible, what you are saying is taking things too far.

You discuss the importance of not speculating, yet you provide this little scenario of what you think played out (i.e. she new his intentions before going home with him, etc). First, we don't know this. Second, a woman, or anyone for that matter, always has the right to change their mind. A person may be aware of another person's intentions, and may even reciprocate their intentions. However, as soon as one party changes their mind, the other party must respect that.

Comments like "the girl was asking for trouble" are uneducated and perpetuate ridiculous rape myths that should have died years and years and years ago.

OMG we could've had McKeown!

I think Virtanen was a terrible pick given that he's out for 6 months which will hinder his development. You don't pick someone at #6 under that circumstance, along with the fact that he was given a 3/5 IQ (aka he's dumb). 

God dammit Benning. WHY VIRTANEN? Terrible move.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:41 PM

While I question the woman's complaints based on the fact the police and DA did not find her to be credible, what you are saying is taking things too far.

You discuss the importance of not speculating, yet you provide this little scenario of what you think played out (i.e. she new his intentions before going home with him, etc). First, we don't know this. Second, a woman, or anyone for that matter, always has the right to change their mind. A person may be aware of another person's intentions, and may even reciprocate their intentions. However, as soon as one party changes their mind, the other party must respect that.

Comments like "the girl was asking for trouble" are uneducated and perpetuate ridiculous rape myths that should have died years and years and years ago.



Are people really this illiterate ? Read the article where it clearly states he propositioned her in front of his team mates ! No speculation here just what was told to the public by the police. She clearly new his intentions from the get go. Yes she was asking for trouble hanging around rowdy drunk filthy rich athletes who can basically buy their way out of almost any situation. Yes anyone can change their mind at anytime, but be prepared for the other party to maybe not be as understanding or willing to hear the word NO. Especially a drunken male with bags of money in his pockets.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:50 PM

Are people really this illiterate ? Read the article where it clearly states he propositioned her in front of his team mates ! No speculation here just what was told to the public by the police. She clearly new his intentions from the get go. Yes she was asking for trouble hanging around rowdy drunk filthy rich athletes who can basically buy their way out of almost any situation. Yes anyone can change their mind at anytime, but be prepared for the other party to maybe not be as understanding or willing to hear the word NO. Especially a drunken male with bags of money in his pockets.


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:49 PM

wow there has been a couple of NHL player that been in trouble with the law.........Kane, Bfguylein, PAvelic two jets and a chicago player, Eric and Jordon Staal?


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 01:54 PM

There could two scenarios - this was true and the girl got scared of moving forward (unlikely). Or she's a gold digging opportunistic loser who thought she could cash in on a false accusation.

If it's the latter, it's absolutely disgusting and is damaging and discrediting to those who really do experience the debilitating act of rape. Women have a hard time coming forward after a rape for reasons of being judged and challenged so those who use the claim of rape as a means for financial gain should not get away with it.

In a situation where two people are intimately engaged, some have a playful way of saying "no" that doesn't make it clear. It's important that females take charge in that situation and push the guy away from them and say NO. End the session, period, if it's going in a direction that you're not prepared for and the guy is being persistent. Some would be angry at that statement as it directs the attention to the female and suggests she's done something wrong in the case of rape. Regressive perhaps, but I'm not convinced that some females don't ignore signs long before the act itself and don't take charge/responsibility because they're playing along. They're not to blame if it progresses to rape, but I'm only suggesting perhaps they should act on their instincts and cut things off at the first signs of things going beyond what they're prepared for. Obviously, many situations of rape don't allow for that and those aren't the ones I'm referring to...but the movie The Accused comes to mind...a really fine line to dance on. Really hard to put into words for me, but owning your body is an important message and it starts long before the act of rape....doesn't ever give anyone the right to proceed, but don't let them cruise through the yellow, without slowing things down with caution.

Not really coming out the way I want to say it, but I believe always in the big picture and looking at that. So complex...

Rape victims are never "to blame"....let's just set that straight. But to strongly draw that line with consistency instead of teetering on it is also important, despite the fact that some/many don't think so. Again, just being honest and this is NOT to say that anyone "asks" for it.


I agree with you completely.

Of the two scenarios, I think the latter is more plausible, given the evidence.


I think I understand what you're trying to say, in that nobody asks for it, but it's important for a woman to take responsibility for her own safety and try her best not to put herself in a situation where things like that could happen.

A drunk man can be pretty stupid, and going home with one (which supposedly occurred in this case) is giving him the wrong ideas. If she already turned him down at the bar (allegedly) why didn't she just take a cab home herself? They'd had had intercourse before, and she brings him over to her place? And then Doughty never threatened her? Doesn't really sound like she gave him a clear message that she wasn't interested.

It just doesn't add up. I also think it's a real shame and disservice to women who have actually been raped. I can't imagine how traumatic that would be.

*edit Doughty is still a douche though, so I wouldn't put something like this past him.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:37 PM

Doughty is such a chump, one of the most overrated players in the conference and seems like a real d-bag personally too.

Now I ain't saying that he actually did anything but he put himself in a situation where the allegation could be made, totally fits the pattern of he's a tool.

How is he overrated? He's one of the best young defenseman in this league and he was a huge part of why the LA Kings won the cup.




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