DeNiro Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I don't have to define it. The nhl defined it when they limited Kovy's contract. What you or I think is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 A lot of people are asking about the legitimacy of the offer (me included) and why the NHL isn't moving to void it. I believe the reason for this is that at the moment it is a signed "Offer Sheet" and as such would not be forwarded to the league for registration. I believe if they are going to move to void this, it will happen when either Philly or Nashville try to actually register the contract. I would expect an answer on that on Thursday as Wednesday is the deadline to match. This may not be over for a couple of weeks yet, kind of like the Kovy situation a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 It seems as though the League has been corrupt for the past 2 seasons. A lock out is looking more reasonable and more reasonable. It's weird how every cup winner lately has worked right into Bettman's plans. Maybe it's just fluke, or more likely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Bettman is a lap dog to whomever puts the tastiest food in his bowl. Ooops. Admin will be banning me again soon for that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Man, can you imagine if Philly actually ganks him from Nashville. It would be so anti-climactic, and a bummer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis1984 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Suppose the Flyers are making a play for Luongo and want to trade a key defenseman for him, namely Weber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrrFour Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 A lot of people are asking about the legitimacy of the offer (me included) and why the NHL isn't moving to void it. I believe the reason for this is that at the moment it is a signed "Offer Sheet" and as such would not be forwarded to the league for registration. I believe if they are going to move to void this, it will happen when either Philly or Nashville try to actually register the contract. I would expect an answer on that on Thursday as Wednesday is the deadline to match. This may not be over for a couple of weeks yet, kind of like the Kovy situation a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrrFour Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 The fact Snider is Bettman's boss and owner of NBC is not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I don't have to define it. The nhl defined it when they limited Kovy's contract. What you or I think is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrrFour Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I was wrong. The new rules for contract cap circumvention were made public. They were not kept privately between the teams and the league head office so remove your tinfoil hats. Any new long term contracts since Kovy's have come under these new rules. Here's a link: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=536524 Here are the new rules that were implemented in Sept 2010: = "We're pleased to be able to establish bright line rules for these contracts going forward and are happy we can turn the page on existing contracts so we're looking forward, not backward," NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly told NHL.com. "From start to finish of the process the Players' Association was responsive, interested and shared our objective to create certainty in this area." The NHLPA released a statement from Roland Lee, Director of Salary Cap/Marketplace & Associate Counsel for the NHLPA: "We are pleased to finalize an agreement which ends the League's circumvention investigations and also establishes rules on long-term contracts that will provide players, their certified agents and general managers clarity for the negotiation of new contracts," Lee said. "Turning the page on this process is something that will benefit all parties involved." The agreement includes two major regulations that go into effect immediately and will be a part of the Collective Bargaining Agreement until its expiration on Sept. 15, 2012. If there is no CBA at the start of the 2012-13 NHL season, the rules will be grandfathered until a new CBA is negotiated: 1. While players and clubs can continue to negotiate long-term contracts (five years or longer) that include contract years in a player's 40s, for purposes of salary-cap calculation the contract will effectively be cut off in the year of the contract in which the player turns 41. This basically means that if a 33-year-old player signs an eight-year contract, the amount owed to him in the first seven years of the contract will be averaged for the purposes of salary-cap computation. Then, in Year 8 of the contract, the salary he will make for that particular season will determine his salary-cap hit for that season. So, if Kovalchuk's contract applied to this rule, the average of what he's owed in the first 13 years would be applied to the Devils salary cap from 2010-2023 and the cap hit would be $7.15 million because he is reportedly due to make $93 million across that span. Then, per the reported terms, the cap hit would change to $3 million in 2023-24 (as Kovalchuk turns 41 in April of that season) and $4 million in 2024-25. 2. In any long-term contract that averages more than $5.75 million for the three highest-compensation seasons, the cap charge will be a minimum of $1 million for every season in which the player is 36-39 years of age. That $1 million value will then be used to determine the salary cap hit for the entire contract. If the contract takes the player into his 40s, the previous rule goes into effect. For example, Savard's contract reportedly calls for him to make $525,000 per season in the final two years of his seven-year, $28 million deal. He will be 38 and 39 in those seasons. If his contract was subject to these new regulations, for purposes of calculating the salary cap the final two years on his deal will reflect as if he was making $1 million. That would make his reported $4 million cap hit go up to $4.14 million. The club and player still can agree to a contract that pays a player less than $1 million when he is at those ages, but for salary-cap purposes the number applied to the team's annual average salary will be $1 million. The regulations are designed to keep diveback numbers in contracts to a minimum. = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 The fact Snider is Bettman's boss and owner of NBC is not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swflyers28 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suolucidir Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 3 days until they match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I feel you are really manipulating the reality of the business relationship not only business wise but power wise, but before I write an essay on everything wrong with that assesment can you explain to me how Snider is Bettman's boss? Maybe I overlooked something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 LOL Nashville is going to match it at the last minute, just to play mind games with everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I wouldn't want to sacrifice four 1st round picks for Weber anyways. We don't have the young stars/potential-stars like Giroux, Couturier, and the Schenn brothers - those guys gave Philly lee-way to give up a lot of future to make this happen. And yet, they still haven't made anything happen for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 @BroadStBull Source: Nashville has not talked to Weber since he signed the $110M offer sheet with #Flyers last Wednesday. #Predators #NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 @BroadStBull Source: Nashville has not talked to Weber since he signed the $110M offer sheet with #Flyers last Wednesday. #Predators #NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 i say they match and see what they can get in a trade. those 1st rounders will not be top ten picks anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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