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#151 Jester@wraiths.ca

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:21 PM

Makes no sense.

Nashville will match and then Weber is stuck there.


It makes perfect sense if the CBA negotiations go as some think they will. There is a belief that long term deals will not be a part of the new CBA, as well as with the league wanting a reduction in the percentage of revenue players get, Weber is doing this to get in under the wire in case of those changes. If the changes came through as they might, doing this makes him millions of dollars richer than if he waited till next year, under a new CBA.

This is a good financial decision. Even if Nashville matches, they are allowed to trade him later (just not the first year). So Weber could end up asking to be moved in a year or two if Nashville isn't feeling like the home it has.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:21 PM

I gotta Admit I'm really pissed but at least I'm glad it wasn't Detroit
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:21 PM

was Holmgren the GM who offer sheeted Kesler?
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:22 PM

Best ever?
What about the cap hit? Flyers can't hold on to all their young forwards!


Timonen will probably walk next year freeing up 6 mil in cap space which they can use to sign Simmonds. The only way I see Hartnell returning is if he takes a major discount maybe 2 mil/year. They would still have 8 mil in cap space
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:22 PM

Don't worry guys :P
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Nashville GM Dave Poile has gone on record and said he will absolutely match any offer a team sends Shea Weber. Ball in his court.

Pretty sure its reliable...
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:22 PM

How could I prove that? Just a lot of things don't add up. Doesn't "sound" like Dreger the way he normally tweets. No other reliable sources tweeting it. It's 10:00pm on the West coast, 1:00am on the East coast.


because someone's bored enough to hack someone's twitter just to post up fake nhl rumors

/logic'd

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:22 PM

lol I dont see why Nashville wouldnt match. They have hella room with only Rinner locked up, and suter gone.

But to be honest, I think I would let him go if I was Nashville.

If they get 4 first rounders...thats an instant injection of youth into an organization. + the 1st they would have..... thats nuts.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:22 PM

R.I.P - Chris Pronger's NHL Career.

Shea Weber signing speaks volumes.


Pretty much.

Still a pretty solid D core without Pronger.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:22 PM

if true than Holmgren is am idiot.


How ? If Nashville matches, they match...nothing lost, nothing gained.

* Other than Polie hating Holmgren for life ala Burke and Lowe LOL
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:22 PM

Man Philly is stacked if Weber indeed ends up there... They are so lucky to have such a wealth of talent up front on ELC. Looking at their cap situation they can add Weber and still have room to re-sign Voracek with Pronger on LTIR.

Even 4 1st round picks aren't going to be that great when u consider how good Philly will be, they match it easily and then move Weber to the highest bidder this summer.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:23 PM

If philly gets weber, those will be very crappy first round picks. Shea weber is worth more than that.


Unless theres something about Nashville's financial situation, they are going to match because who would want 4 early second round picks? (Flyers+Weber won't result in very many high first round picks...they are probably going to be around the 25th-30th pick)
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:23 PM

trade for pronger.


As much as I love Pronger as a player, coming off an injury to play at a high pace is very hard to do. Just ask Raymond about it.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:23 PM

@HockeyyInsiderr: Source: Weber offer sheet 14 years under 109M$. #Flyers #Preds

You see what he does. Darren Dreger says $100 million. He says under $109 million. Safety blanket right there.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:23 PM

Wow. Teams are starting to stock pile good players, I worry this might be a baseball-esque oligarchy.

Huge deal, I doubt Nashville can throw that kind of money at him, although the cap hit is low at 7.1. Anyone know if any bonuses on the deal, that could be a deal breaker if Nashville can't match a 10mil+ signing bonus.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:23 PM

He's a RFA right now.

 


$1,110,249 or below - No Compensation
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 - 3rd round pick
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 - 2nd round pick
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 - 1st round pick, 3rd
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 - 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd
Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,410,976 - Four 1st Round Picks

http://www.pensionpl...le-offer-sheets

AAV of $7.14 million, so two 1st round picks, 2nd, and 3rd. Not bad. Why didn't MG do this?


That would be considered a bold move! Bravo Paul Holmgren and congrats to Philly!!

Man Holmgren has guts. Last summer trades his captain and one of his top scorers, now this.

It brings a tear to my eye knowing Gillis is throwing a combined $9 Million at Booth and Ballard for another 4 years though.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:23 PM

Stupid move. Philly just jeopardized their future, and Weber just ran the risk of staying with Nashville for the rest of his life. Lose/Lose.

Edited by Rey, 18 July 2012 - 10:24 PM.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:24 PM

If philly gets weber, those will be very crappy first round picks. Shea weber is worth more than that.


Nashville will probably match, also, Dreger is now saying the picks might not be all 1st rounders after all.

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I may have made an error on compensatory picks. Depending on aav, it could be 2 firsts, 2nd and a 3rd round pick if Preds don't match.


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:24 PM

was Holmgren the GM who offer sheeted Kesler?


Bobby Clarke. He took a lot of flak for it (Clarke, that is).
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:24 PM

was Holmgren the GM who offer sheeted Kesler?


Clarke.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:24 PM

Preds will match. They will sell half the team to keep him
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:24 PM

nashville will match they have 30 million in cap space.......
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:24 PM

finally those stupid threads of weber coming to vancouver can stop.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:24 PM

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:25 PM

Even if it is 4 first rounders, no way Nashville doesn't match it. Weber means everything to that team, they can't afford to lose him and rebuild - their franchise wouldn't survive it. They're best to match it and then trade him for a huge return next year - which they'll get players to help them then and there not four-six years down the road.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:25 PM

Any player that signs an offer sheet cannot be traded for 1 year from the day of the signing.


Ok thanks. I'm gonna go cry now.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:25 PM

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:26 PM

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:26 PM

How long do they have to match?
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:27 PM

Stupid move. Philly just jeopardized their future, and Weber just ran the risk of staying with Nashville for the rest of his life. Lose/Lose.


Completely agree. Either Philly destroys their future team, or Weber is stuck in NSH.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:27 PM

Preds will match. They will sell half the team to keep him

nashville will match they have 30 million in cap space.......

There is a possibility that they won't cause the owners won't have the money to pay it all off.

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