Guest Dasein Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Gotta think though that having lost Suter already ... Losing Shea wouldn't be that bad if you keep this in perspective: Captain Nashville in 3 years? If there ever is a year to tank since 2005 and 2008, this would be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Gotta think though that having lost Suter already ... Losing Shea wouldn't be that bad if you keep this in perspective: Captain Nashville in 3 years? If there ever is a year to tank since 2005 and 2008, this would be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 That makes no sense, it just means they need him even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsface Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 @HockeyyInsiderr: Source: Weber offer sheet 14 years under 109M$. #Flyers #Preds You see what he does. Darren Dreger says $100 million. He says under $109 million. Safety blanket right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Because Weber gets paid $20.0mil + the first season and Nashville's ownership may not be able to afford to pay one player that much money in one year. His cap hit is $7.8mil, but the contract has him earning $10.0mil in contract money and $10.0mil + in signing bonuses, etc in the first year. If Nashville's ownership sucked it up and rolled out $20.0mil + next season to keep Shea for one year and then trade him for assets, then I think the logical step for Poile would be to sign the offer sheet. But for the time being, I think they are debating whether it will be worth keeping him (which he absolutely is) for one year then trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Drybone Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Really? Do I need to spell it out for you? The Nashville Predators is now officially The Pekka Rinne Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawkSniper Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I can only assume that he is going to tell Nashville that he doesn't want to play there so that they don't dare match and end up with an unhappy player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Nashville is still around 14 million from the cap floor so they need to add salary regardless if they can afford it or not. Even if they match the offer they're still 6 million away from the cap floor and there's not too many decent free agents left. So basically if they make a deal with Philly, they would need to be taking players like Coburn and Schenn back to help them get back up to the cap floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bieksa's Quote Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Really? Do I need to spell it out for you? Nashville loses both Suter and Weber via free agency and offer sheet signing, respectively. They lose Radulov and Kostitsyn to the KHL. Now they are without their #1 shutdown pairing that made them a contender and a playoff team, and are without 2 top 6 wingers - all the while, they do not gain any players in return or via free agency. The Nashville Predators is now officially The Pekka Rinne Show. Even with Pekka, their lack of scoring depth up front and now the backend (with the departure of their main scorers Suter and Weber) and defensive depth, expect Nashville to tank the season. Now, they are loaded with a first round pick from Philadelphia (for the next four years - though, expect them to be low 1st rounders), and one of their own - expect this to be a top 10 - potentially a top 5 lottery pick. If they tank enough, they could end up with Nathan MacKinnon - whispers compare him to Sidney Crosby. Though he doesn't play like Sid the Kid, he is dynamic in his own way and is an absolute beast. He could be the best 1st overall pick since Stamkos or even better. Bottom line, if you're gonna tank any year in the last 4-5 years and the next 4-5 years, this would be the year to do it - and Nashville can do it with the lineup they have. All they have to do is sign a bunch of old veterans to one year deals with high cap hits to reach the cap floor then tank all season. If even still, they fail to get the 1st overall pick, they'll be pretty damn close - and they'll have 4 extra 1st round picks in the next 4 years to bargain with to move up to the 1st overall pick. With Nathan, Nashville could be doing it the Pittsburgh or Chicago way - lottery pick their way out of a bad jam and build a championship team and hence a fanbase around their young superstars (that they draft). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Pekka Rinne is now thirty and has never faced the onslaught hes about to face. He cant save the franchise. Polie has to sign. The only question is convincing the owner to bite the bullet and cough up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Nashville is still around 14 million from the cap floor so they need to add salary regardless if they can afford it or not. Even if they match the offer they're still 6 million away from the cap floor and there's not too many decent free agents left. So basically if they make a deal with Philly, they would need to be taking players like Coburn and Schenn back to help them get back up to the cap floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 And this is pretty much the reason that Nashville will match. The only way they won't is they financially just don't have the cash to pay him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 The Preds GM will be fired either way. His lack of foresight has caused the owners to lose their captain/best player for picks that may never amount to anything or a crazy contract where they have to throw 26M in the first year to just one player (a task very difficult for the Preds to pay) This GM screwed up with Suter and now he did it again with Weber. How many chances does he get??? He is the same person who lost Scott Stevens for basically nothing when he was the GM of the Caps. All I got to say is wow! Worst GM in the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 The Preds GM will be fired either way. His lack of foresight has caused the owners to lose their captain/best player for picks that may never amount to anything or a crazy contract where they have to throw 26M in the first year to just one player (a task very difficult for the Preds to pay) This GM screwed up with Suter and now he did it again with Weber. How many chances does he get??? He is the same person who lost Scott Stevens for basically nothing when he was the GM of the Caps. All I got to say is wow! Worst GM in the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Doughty Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 The Preds GM will be fired either way. His lack of foresight has caused the owners to lose their captain/best player for picks that may never amount to anything or a crazy contract where they have to throw 26M in the first year to just one player (a task very difficult for the Preds to pay) This GM screwed up with Suter and now he did it again with Weber. How many chances does he get??? He is the same person who lost Scott Stevens for basically nothing when he was the GM of the Caps. All I got to say is wow! Worst GM in the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Poile is not the problem in Nashville - he managed to build Nashville into a team with as reasonable a chance of winning as any other team. Now he is hard up against it, and not because he is a poor GM, but because the circumstances sent the FA market crazy. People - Nashville offered Suter a very sizeable contract, and no doubt had every intention of signing both him and Weber - they can afford to fork out for Weber. If Philly seriously wants Weber, they are going to have to fork over a package in line with what Howson wants for Nash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 The Nashville GM should have known he was going to be unable to sign his players. These guys don't all of the sudden become RFAs and UFAs! If you can't re-sign your player before contract expiry, it becomes the GMs fault.. This Nashville GM should have realized that his players were moving on and he blew his opportunity to trade at the deadline and or before July 1. It's almost like he stuck his head in the sand and let time pass by without realizing the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester@wraiths.ca Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 This isn't Poile's decision at all. It is going to be whether or not ownership says he is allowed to spend that money, because it isn't just a normal "here's your yearly salary" contract. With such heavy front loading, especially 26 million within 11 months when there is no CBA and could be a shortened season with less revenue. The team could let him go, take the 4 first rounders, and spend 14 million dollars on the best players available, and have saved 12 million dollars in that 11 month span. Giving away an extra 12 million dollars isn't something every owner is willing to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 All I am saying is that he could have got a lot more than nothing for Suter and just 4 very late first rounders for arguably the best D man in the NHL Yes, he can't control the purse strings but he should have had the foresight that Suter was probably going to walk and Weber would sign an offer sheet. It seems now that the Preds GM is screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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