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Raymond makes more than Burrows. He also makes more money than Higgins. Both players are straight up better. By your incredible logic, Scott Gomez is Wayne Gretzky. Also Hansen got a raise and Raymond got demoted salary wise, that says more to me than anything.

Raymond is defensively sound, but better than Hansen?

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Bolded part is the necessary qualifier. However, Raymond does not play to his potential. He shows flashes every so often. Hansen brings his top game night in, night out. When you talk about the quality of players, there are intangibles that don't show up on the scoresheet - consistency, work ethic, attitude. Hansen is miles ahead of Raymond in those categories.

And Hansen has actually achieved one of the rarest accomplishments known to any NHLer of the last 10 years - he got Matt Cooke to fight.

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"In fact in the last 2 seasons, only Malhotra has played more overall minutes than Hansen on the PK (out of the forwards)."

And there we have it folks ............screwed by his own logic.

As for the rest I think various posters above have answered it. Anyone who says Hansen is a better player than Raymond needs to get the first train back out of Lala Land.

Last person out, please put out the lights.

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Hansen wins, but you can't ask this question because it's just not fair.

Raymond's gone through injury the past 2 years, breaking his hand early in 2010-2011 and then breaking his back in June 2011, hindering is performance in 11-12. The one year he was completely healthy was when he destroyed Hansen's production. Sure, Hansen rarely gets top 6 minutes, but every time he played on the 1st line he did nothing.

Hansen is suited for a 3rd line role and does it extremely well, especially since we have pretty much no expectations for them offensively, while Raymond is the whipping boy because the only people who actually understand what's happening is the management (terrible injury, nobody else to give the 2nd line spot to, CDC thinks he's a piece of garbage because he falls a lot).

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Anyone who says Hansen is a better player than Raymond needs to get the first train back out of Lala Land.

Last person out, please put out the lights.

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Hansen is one of the best bottom 6 forwards in the NHL. You could argue that he's almost as valuable to have on your team as a true top 6 - you obviously can't win with two lines.

Raymond OTOH is suppose to have a bigger scoring role than Hansen and still he had fewer points. I understand the back injury and Boychuk obviously deserved to have the book thrown at him (blame goes on refs/Shanahan for being lax) but still .. Raymond owes it to the team to play a better role next year. He certainly will have to if he wants any chance at getting a raise.

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Guest gumballthechewy

It's important to remember that the majority isn't necessarily right every time. That said, the burden of proof will always be on those who challenge the belief held by the majority.

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True, true, if not for minority believers then we'd still think the earth is flat, the sun orbits us or that the earth is onl a few thousand years old, but it's painfully obvious that Hansen is better than Raymond like its painfully obvious that the earth is, in fact, round.

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Ok, so let me get this straight, The 23 people who link Raymond is so great are the right ones compared to the 146 loonies who know better?

So by that logic does it mean the 5% of humanity that believe the earth is flat are right as well?

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Guest gumballthechewy

So given that a poll on here at any given time might have produced.

Hodgson sucks

Ballard sucks

Bieksa sucks

Lu sucks

Burrows sucks................and these are only the recent players

All probably with huge majorities.................why should we pay any attention at all to the majority vote on CDC where Raymond is concerned?

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