The Great Dane Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I think that the ceiling that MG has created doesn't come in to play with edler. Edler is more valuable than any defenseman on this team (save maybe hamhuis) and he deserves to be paid as such. Open market he could command upwards of $6 million but if he signed 6 years 5.3-5.8 here I'd be ecstatic. He's only 26, he hasn't even entered his prime and he's arguably the best defenseman on the team. The 4.6 ceiling shouldn't be used here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnInconvenienceBrah Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Will MG offer him more than Hamhuis or Bieksa or Garrisson? You heard about MG's internal salary scale haven't you? Edler I am afraid, does not fit into the canucks' salary structure after next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMacNamedDre Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Edler in the playoffs last year was some scary awful sh*t. Brutal. Absolutely brutal. i would want to know 100% certain that version of Edler isn't the guy we throw a fat contract at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterBean Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 No worries. To homers, reality check: Edler is not as good as Weber or Suter. Now that I got your attention: Edler is not as good as Weber or Suter. He won't cost that much. He's also going to stay because like the Sedins, he's Swedish and Swedish players are loyal to Vancouver because Vancouver loves bringing in Swedish players. They're soft like satin and cute like cup cakes. Edler will sign and give us less than half what Weber gives in a nightly basis for 3/4 the price. Bargain? Think again. This team is going down the drains. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnInconvenienceBrah Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Edler in the playoffs last year was some scary awful sh*t. Brutal. Absolutely brutal. i would want to know 100% certain that version of Edler isn't the guy we throw a fat contract at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Anyone that thinks that Edler will sign for 4.6 mill is dilusional. If he hit the open market he would be offered 6 million per with some crazy 20 million in the first 2 year deal. I think the best case scenerio with a team discount would be 7 years at 5.5 - 5.8 mill per. Remember Bieksa took a discount to stay and he is being paid 4.6 per. Edler is a far superior D man to Bieksa. There is really no reason to trade Edler unless we get an Edler type player back. Since teams don't trade players like this, its pretty much a non topic. A 7 year contract takes him to age 33. Right now we do not have one prospect that can develop into the likes of an Edler. My proposed contract would be. 7 years with a cap hit of 5.5 broke down like this 8 mil, 8 mil, 6 mil, 6 mil, 4 mil, 3.5 mil, 3 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I think that the ceiling that MG has created doesn't come in to play with edler. Edler is more valuable than any defenseman on this team (save maybe hamhuis) and he deserves to be paid as such. Open market he could command upwards of $6 million but if he signed 6 years 5.3-5.8 here I'd be ecstatic. He's only 26, he hasn't even entered his prime and he's arguably the best defenseman on the team. The 4.6 ceiling shouldn't be used here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Trade Edler, Ballard. Raymond and 2 firsts to Nashville for the rights to Weber and sign him to the offer sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDave Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Edler is clearly our best all around defencmen, and one of the best in the league. I'm sure he loves the canucks, but as previously pointed out, ehrhoff came right outa left field with a gigantic contract for a team no one expected him to land on.. Locking him up for as long as possible should be, and most likely IS MGs top priority. But the urgency begins to grow once he starts looking at other offers. I seriously hope we sign him soon. $4.6 over 6 years would be ideal, cause I think he's going to become a force to be reckoned with over the next few years... well.. more of one than he already is. I just hope he has more room in his heart than ehrhoff for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead73 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I'd not worry about the CBA talks shortening contract years, most likely they are going to try to get rid of the fake cap hit contracts, which is the ONLY reason these contracts are so long... Once you have to pay the cap hit your paying the player they will sign 50-80 million contracts for 4-7 years. Still silly contracts but wont allow teams to load talent up and just foot the bill "under the table" which is the way to go to keep on improving parity. As for Edler, with teams like philly out there you would be an absoloute idiot not to lock up your core players before they are vunerable to offer sheets... It is a no brainer, non issue... But it is up to the player involved to WANT to sign. If they have interest in being on the market they will be. Which is the real speculation here, is Edlers agent in talks? if not... might as well say goodbye to Edler now cuz he will def command big dollars on the open market. I'd vote to lock him up long term. He is an excellent player with a decent combination of skill and grit. Hard to find even if he might not end up being a Weber/Lidstrom type on player. Still will be exspensive, but most good players are. Sign him Gillis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyP. Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I think he'd take a pay cut to stay here but I'm sure he'll demand more than 4.6 mil. 8 years @ 5.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Ehrhoff didn't either. I'll be surprised if we can keep him at a price tag under $5mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlas=d Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 MG should try to resign him now and if Edler doesn't want to sign right now trade him. It's better to get something then risk him walking for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulKariyaALH Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 MG should try to resign him now and if Edler doesn't want to sign right now trade him. It's better to get something then risk him walking for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey21383 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 No worries. To homers, reality check: Edler is not as good as Weber or Suter. Now that I got your attention: Edler is not as good as Weber or Suter. He won't cost that much. He's also going to stay because like the Sedins, he's Swedish and Swedish players are loyal to Vancouver because Vancouver loves bringing in Swedish players. They're soft like satin and cute like cup cakes. Edler will sign and give us less than half what Weber gives in a nightly basis for 3/4 the price. Bargain? Think again. This team is going down the drains. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I say wait for post lockout and give him 5 years at 6.1 per ala sedins. Seems reasonable. Maybe he'll test the market at get way more. He can always be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulKariyaALH Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I say wait for post lockout and give him 5 years at 6.1 per ala sedins. Seems reasonable. Maybe he'll test the market at get way more. He can always be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Lindholm would get about 2 mil less. Why would you sign Edler for 6.1 when you can trade him for Lindholm, who will arguably get better, and make a lot less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Luongo Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Edler is so overrated by some fans its laughable. Here's just a few things that bothers me about Edler and why i would rather we trade him. 1. He's too soft and lacks the toughness needed in top 4 especially in front of the net where he's as wimpy as it gets. 2. He is caught out of position far too often leading to goals against. 3. Lacks mobility often even falling over his own feet takes dumb penalties at bad times. 4. Doesn't hold puck inside offensive blueline well and gets caught on odd man rushes because of poor decision making. 5. Wastes key entries on the pp by making poor plays and results in pucks getting cleared. 6. Misses the net too much and again wasting offensive chances for others. 7. Can't defend teammates at all and turns away from all conflict leaving teammates getting abused in scrums. 8. Hasn't got enough heart tends to look too content and accepting after bad mistakes made and takes losing far too lightly. 9. Lacks ability to take away time and space even with the long reach very important in defending. 10. Doesn't rise his play important games often get's worse and a liability to the team lessening the chances of winning these games. For me it couldn't be more clear weighing the good against the bad of Edlers overall play that he needs t be traded to help this team move forward. I hope he get's packaged with Luongo, Raymond and picks for a top 6 power forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 He'll get re-signed Max 4.6M/6yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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