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Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:14 PM

Well their predictive programming seems to have been quite effective.


Don't worry, you'll get through this. I was quite into the 9/11 and Illuminati conspiracies some years back. Then I developed critical thinking, started paying attention instead of being fed, and realized the world is a much simpler, much craptier place than I imagined it to be. Predictive programming? Who needs predictive programming when people gobble up garbage by the truck-load? Who needs to brainwash the masses when they happily take their kids to church?
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:21 PM

Could you imagine if Big Ben was actually attacked or something terrible happened to London during the Olympics? Dank would make you all eat your words :lol:
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:00 AM

wow. between all the venom getting spewed in this topic, i think i read 8 good posts.

isn't there a rule about flaming/trolling that should be enforced here?

Thank you, OP, for the vids


People don't want to hear about things that go against what society deems "normal". So people resort to insults. It's expected, I just ignore them.

Some moderation against it would be nice though.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 05:08 AM

Don't worry, you'll get through this. I was quite into the 9/11 and Illuminati conspiracies some years back. Then I developed critical thinking, started paying attention instead of being fed, and realized the world is a much simpler, much craptier place than I imagined it to be. Predictive programming? Who needs predictive programming when people gobble up garbage by the truck-load? Who needs to brainwash the masses when they happily take their kids to church?


While I realize that you are simply providing your perspective, I don't see how 'I used to believe in that stuff but then smartened up' type arguments are in any way deemed to be convincing (I say this because another member said something similar within this thread). And many people have it the other way around through critical thinking and paying attention and refusing to be fed. They've already gotten through it. I will state, however; that based on some posts and topics I've seen from you, you are more awake than most people on certain issues.

Predictive programming is not one and the same as garbage by the truck load and the concept of Predictive programming goes back to Plato. You could say that predictive programming and garbage information/propaganda/deception/lies etc. likely often have a symbiotic relationship and are interdependent, especially in today's realm. In fact, you could say that garbage information reinforces the predictive programming to create a cultural conditioning of the masses from the top-down.

A perfect example of this: whenever the mere insinuation of a conspiracy is mentioned, what is the common and uniform reaction from the masses to a near tee? And why is that?

If religious leaders, according to what you believe and claim, can brainwash the masses, then what about governments and entities above the governments who have limitless resources and armies of psychologists etc. at their disposal and beckoning to put on productions via television or theater screens that reside in every home and city which the masses willingly stare at for hours on end as opposed to one Sunday per week?

The technique is ancient and it's an old science. Plato in his Republic talks about the culture industry of his own day and how it was essential not only for maintaining control over the people by the elite but they had to control everything that was given to the public. In other words, anything the public saw in drama on stage was authorized. Not only was it authorized, in ancient Greece traveling troops of players would come into the cities and do their rounds and it was compulsory to attend. Everyone, even the slaves, had to attend at least one performance because just like today they had their agenda and their schedule and the upgrading of the system and it was done primarily through fiction, because the old saying is "monkey see, monkey do" and we emulate what we see, especially when it’s done in the typical hero and heroin form...

"The more things change, the more they stay the same" and if something works you don't want to change it. Why change it? The formula of human behavior is just a science. Each part of the direction that you want it to go into is just the ability to understand the formulas involved and then what buttons to push in what sequence; and if it's done in the right way, the right presentation, with the right propaganda, the public will react and do exactly as they've been programmed to do. It's worked in the past. It will work in the future...

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:10 AM

You know, at the end of the day....I've never understood what the big deal of electing one gov't to govern world affairs? It actually does sound like an efficient way to solve some of the global problems quickly without all the red-tape. Sprinkle in a little capitalistic socialism and environmentalism, and that doesn't sound half bad at all.

because all the control in a single place has worked so well for individual nations, we should scale it up so they control everything. Imagine George Bush in control of the entire world, not just america.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:15 AM

Could you imagine if Big Ben was actually attacked or something terrible happened to London during the Olympics? Dank would make you all eat your words :lol:

how would a terrorist act at one of the most likely terrorist targets make dank right about his tinfoil hat conspiracies? it's almost a given that nearly every terrorist org want to strike during the olympics, it doesn't take some cockamamie conspiracy theory to see that.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:15 AM

how would a terrorist act at one of the most likely terrorist targets make dank right about his tinfoil hat conspiracies? it's almost a given that nearly every terrorist org want to strike during the olympics, it doesn't take some cockamamie conspiracy theory to see that.


Who told you that?
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:16 AM

Could you imagine if Big Ben was actually attacked or something terrible happened to London during the Olympics? Dank would make you all eat your words :lol:


Not that I'm saying im looking towards an attack, that'd be just awful, but there is the potential of one happening so yea, an if it does happen, people will just say it was a terrorist attack when it wasn't really.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:19 AM

how would a terrorist act at one of the most likely terrorist targets make dank right about his tinfoil hat conspiracies? it's almost a given that nearly every terrorist org want to strike during the olympics, it doesn't take some cockamamie conspiracy theory to see that.


Never mind, too late LOL :P .....

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:45 AM

Who told you that?

the largest gathering of people in the world, with extremely high visibility in all countries' media. what would make you think they WOULDN'T want to strike the olympics? they are fear-mongering attention whores, what better place to spread fear and grab attention than the olympics? it's why every olympics has such a huge security budget. it's not just in case a riot happens.

it's elementary logic, my dear tinfoil hat.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:07 AM

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:07 AM

the largest gathering of people in the world, with extremely high visibility in all countries' media. what would make you think they WOULDN'T want to strike the olympics? they are fear-mongering attention whores, what better place to spread fear and grab attention than the olympics? it's why every olympics has such a huge security budget. it's not just in case a riot happens.

it's elementary logic, my dear tinfoil hat.


So nobody told you this information? You've just imagined up a 'tin foil hat' (as you elegantly put it) conspiracy simply because the Olympics has a large security budget?

And from where did you get the term tin foil hat?

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:13 AM

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I don't even know why i bothered. go enjoy your conspiracy theories, live in fear, join a protest, cling to your belief that there is a small sect of superpowerful individuals that want you dead and and leaving a trail for you to follow/point out to others, or whatever you want.you won't hear another word from me.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:34 AM

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I don't even know why i bothered. go enjoy your conspiracy theories, live in fear, join a protest, cling to your belief that there is a small sect of superpowerful individuals that want you dead and and leaving a trail for you to follow/point out to others, or whatever you want.you won't hear another word from me.


Very well, I understand. And you can likewise cling to your belief that George Bush 'controlled America'.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 10:01 AM

wow. between all the venom getting spewed in this topic, i think i read 8 good posts.

isn't there a rule about flaming/trolling that should be enforced here?

Thank you, OP, for the vids


Good posts = Posts that you agree with.

Trolls/flame posts = Posts that you don't agree with.

If anyone got banned here for not believing in these silly theories, that would be a conspiracy in itself.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 10:36 AM

because all the control in a single place has worked so well for individual nations, we should scale it up so they control everything. Imagine George Bush in control of the entire world, not just america.


But isn't that the kind of paranoia that resides in these tin-foilers minds? Having a centralized gov't to govern the affairs of society has gone back to the days of our African plains ancestors, up until today, where our local cities employ a democratically elected gov't based on the socially agreed understanding that standardized services across our town or city or province is necessary and beneficial.

Obviously there are pit-falls as with anything man-made. Absolute power corrupting and whatnot, but for the large part, it seems that we're ok with the system of democracy, the system of social services, and the system of a socially representative governing body. If all these work from the micro, municipal unit, all the way to the macro, the federal or national unit(for most countries), then what is the real issue, other than corruption which can be addressed by the architects of the larger governmental unit, to oppose a one-world gov't?

There are pros and cons, of course....and i'm not suggesting that we do away with country names and borders and all the things that keep our regional and cultural identities intact, i'm speaking more about the ability to take global action on any number of issues around, poverty & suffering, climate change & environment, freedeoms & law, civil unrest/wars, economics, drought, starvation, disease and destruction, and all the things that don't know or respect borders and boundaries now anyways.

I'm sort of thinking about a U.N type organization that actually works, and isn't bogged down by vetos, and diplomatic red-tape and all the things that make it a useless waste of an organization when a part of the world requires a quick and nimble response.

I realize i can't make a full explanation in one post, nor can I address or recognize all the challenges, problems and pit-falls, of this idea....but i'm just touching on the bare basics of the idea. Take it for what it is.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 10:50 AM

the largest gathering of people in the world, with extremely high visibility in all countries' media. what would make you think they WOULDN'T want to strike the olympics? they are fear-mongering attention whores, what better place to spread fear and grab attention than the olympics? it's why every olympics has such a huge security budget. it's not just in case a riot happens.

it's elementary logic, my dear tinfoil hat.


Just saying, wouldn't it be suspicious and 'coincidental' if for some reason these Olympics get attacked when all/most the past ones weren't? Not to mention, these London Olympics have the highest security budget ever at $1.5 bill with more to be added and it's the highest technological out there....don't think terrorists could get by that tbh, and it'd have to be it was 'Illuminati/gov' based if an attack does happen because of these conspiracy videos that state it was a possibility all along and the signs they've given in commercials.

If nothing happens, I was wrong - doesn't hurt me to say I wasn't right - but if it does, don't try covering up and saying it was by terrorists because no terrorists can get by the immense and advanced security these has these Olympics has and the terrorist you can blame it on is the Illuminati as again, they have forshadowed this a lot in the past 2 years.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 10:57 AM

While I realize that you are simply providing your perspective, I don't see how 'I used to believe in that stuff but then smartened up' type arguments are in any way deemed to be convincing (I say this because another member said something similar within this thread). And many people have it the other way around through critical thinking and paying attention and refusing to be fed. They've already gotten through it. I will state, however; that based on some posts and topics I've seen from you, you are more awake than most people on certain issues.

Predictive programming is not one and the same as garbage by the truck load and the concept of Predictive programming goes back to Plato. You could say that predictive programming and garbage information/propaganda/deception/lies etc. likely often have a symbiotic relationship and are interdependent, especially in today's realm. In fact, you could say that garbage information reinforces the predictive programming to create a cultural conditioning of the masses from the top-down.

A perfect example of this: whenever the mere insinuation of a conspiracy is mentioned, what is the common and uniform reaction from the masses to a near tee? And why is that?

If religious leaders, according to what you believe and claim, can brainwash the masses, then what about governments and entities above the governments who have limitless resources and armies of psychologists etc. at their disposal and beckoning to put on productions via television or theater screens that reside in every home and city which the masses willingly stare at for hours on end as opposed to one Sunday per week?


That wasn't supposed to be convincing. You should know I wouldn't rely on two lines to be convincing. I could easily spend half a day writing posts that are if I believed anyone would read them and think. I'm convinced that whatever I say will be written off as "sheep speech" or "predictive programming", or any other making it easy to dismiss concept. After all, why would someone who sees listen to a blind man?

Critical thinking isn't connecting dots labeled A, B, C, and D together via a Youtube video.

Like I said, the world is a much simpler, crappier place than any conspiratorial individual will acknowledge.

Conspiracy has negative connotations. There are many, MANY words that carry the same. Don't blame people's ignorance on the Illuminati, just realize people are stupid and usually have an English level of a fifth-grader.

One thing I truly can't stand is when people throw out the word "governments" as freely as you. Which governments are brainwashing the masses via TVs? The Americans? Russians? Germans and Austrians? Vietnamese? Qatari? Chinese? Where do you think they'd get these armies? Who trained them? Who recruited them? Are they first brainwashed with loyalty? Are all governments in collusion? Are they pawns of different factions within Illuminati? Is American-Russian animosity just a show for the masses? The cold war was a front?

I promised myself I wouldn't bother. Let the Illuminati worship the rebel who stood up to the tyrant god. Let them implement an Earth-unifying government and rid us of the plague of semantic differences based on our birth location.

Illuminati is not the hero Earth deserves, it is the hero Earth needs.

Now excuse me, I need to get a doze of brainwashing from my televi... oh right, I cancelled cable over two years ago.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:02 AM

But isn't that the kind of paranoia that resides in these tin-foilers minds? Having a centralized gov't to govern the affairs of society has gone back to the days of our African plains ancestors, up until today, where our local cities employ a democratically elected gov't based on the socially agreed understanding that standardized services across our town or city or province is necessary and beneficial.

Obviously there are pit-falls as with anything man-made. Absolute power corrupting and whatnot, but for the large part, it seems that we're ok with the system of democracy, the system of social services, and the system of a socially representative governing body. If all these work from the micro, municipal unit, all the way to the macro, the federal or national unit(for most countries), then what is the real issue, other than corruption which can be addressed by the architects of the larger governmental unit, to oppose a one-world gov't?

There are pros and cons, of course....and i'm not suggesting that we do away with country names and borders and all the things that keep our regional and cultural identities intact, i'm speaking more about the ability to take global action on any number of issues around, poverty & suffering, climate change & environment, freedeoms & law, civil unrest/wars, economics, drought, starvation, disease and destruction, and all the things that don't know or respect borders and boundaries now anyways.

I'm sort of thinking about a U.N type organization that actually works, and isn't bogged down by vetos, and diplomatic red-tape and all the things that make it a useless waste of an organization when a part of the world requires a quick and nimble response.

I realize i can't make a full explanation in one post, nor can I address or recognize all the challenges, problems and pit-falls, of this idea....but i'm just touching on the bare basics of the idea. Take it for what it is.

but the larger and more powerful a government becomes the less effective it becomes it's the small local governments that truly take care of their people and does what's right for them, for the most part. I'd rather decentralize than centralize.

Just saying, wouldn't it be suspicious and 'coincidental' if for some reason these Olympics get attacked when all/most the past ones weren't? Not to mention, these London Olympics have the highest security budget ever at $1.5 bill with more to be added and it's the highest technological out there....don't think terrorists could get by that tbh, and it'd have to be it was 'Illuminati/gov' based if an attack does happen because of these conspiracy videos that state it was a possibility all along and the signs they've given in commercials.

If nothing happens, I was wrong - doesn't hurt me to say I wasn't right - but if it does, don't try covering up and saying it was by terrorists because no terrorists can get by the immense and advanced security these has these Olympics has and the terrorist you can blame it on is the Illuminati as again, they have forshadowed this a lot in the past 2 years.

http://en.wikipedia....Munich_massacre
http://en.wikipedia....ic_Park_bombing

nothing is 100% secure, you can only plan against what you know, you can plan for potential threats that you can imagine, but you can never cover everything. that's pretty much a mantra in information system security, and it applies to all types of security. if something makes it through, god forbid, it's not because of some imaginary society pulling the world's strings.


edit: ugh, i can't believe i was pulled back into this.

Edited by avelanch, 24 July 2012 - 11:06 AM.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:04 AM

But isn't that the kind of paranoia that resides in these tin-foilers minds? Having a centralized gov't to govern the affairs of society has gone back to the days of our African plains ancestors, up until today, where our local cities employ a democratically elected gov't based on the socially agreed understanding that standardized services across our town or city or province is necessary and beneficial.

Obviously there are pit-falls as with anything man-made. Absolute power corrupting and whatnot, but for the large part, it seems that we're ok with the system of democracy, the system of social services, and the system of a socially representative governing body. If all these work from the micro, municipal unit, all the way to the macro, the federal or national unit(for most countries), then what is the real issue, other than corruption which can be addressed by the architects of the larger governmental unit, to oppose a one-world gov't?

There are pros and cons, of course....and i'm not suggesting that we do away with country names and borders and all the things that keep our regional and cultural identities intact, i'm speaking more about the ability to take global action on any number of issues around, poverty & suffering, climate change & environment, freedeoms & law, civil unrest/wars, economics, drought, starvation, disease and destruction, and all the things that don't know or respect borders and boundaries now anyways.

I'm sort of thinking about a U.N type organization that actually works, and isn't bogged down by vetos, and diplomatic red-tape and all the things that make it a useless waste of an organization when a part of the world requires a quick and nimble response.

I realize i can't make a full explanation in one post, nor can I address or recognize all the challenges, problems and pit-falls, of this idea....but i'm just touching on the bare basics of the idea. Take it for what it is.


I agree with this - but I don't know about keeping the borders and such - afterall, it's the borders we put up that tend to make us fight.

Kind of like "Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry intended to depict the Federation as if it was like an ideal, optimistic version of the United Nations."
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:23 AM

but the larger and more powerful a government becomes the less effective it becomes it's the small local governments that truly take care of their people and does what's right for them, for the most part. I'd rather decentralize than centralize.



I think they've become what we've allowed them to become. I agree that in some ways they've become less effective, but that's because many of us have become disconnected to politics or social policy making. We're the ones, the average citizen, who allow the corruption and the fear-mongering and the powerful and the rich to corrupt the system.

And while I agree that smaller gov'ts can take care of smaller areas, the same is true about larger governing bodies overseeing issues that arise over larger areas that can't be solved by marshaling the resources or people-power of a small area. We've lived in tribes before, and that was all great and dandy, but tribalism is also something that occurs, and isn't so great after awhile, which is why we evolved out of it. I do agree that we need better decentralized policies and representation though. Even in a one world governing situation, we'd still need to have 'proper' representation of regions as well as tailored solutions for each area and unique challenge faced. However, that doesn't mean that a one-world gov't couldn't establish fundamental rights and freedoms from the get go to establish, standardize and enforce equality and human rights legislation and policies and enforcement. It could also standardize many other benefits such as health and education.

Decentralization of power is a good idea, but again, small areas don't have the means to look after themselves without being dependent on other areas, given our current state of living, population, and other factors. There is a place for being self-reliant and self-sufficient, but it shouldn't be an either or proposition when talking about that, and about reliance on others, around the country we live in or the world we all share. We're a species that thrives when we don't isolate ourselves from ourselves, but learn to rely on each other, and work cooperatively to tackle large problems.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:31 AM

I think they've become what we've allowed them to become. I agree that in some ways they've less effective, but that's because many of us have become disconnected to politics, or social policy making. We're the ones, the average citizen, who allow the corruption and the fear-mongering and the powerful and the rich to corrupt the system.

And while I agree that smaller gov'ts can take care of smaller areas, the same is true about larger governing bodies overseeing issues that arise over larger areas that can't be solved by marshaling the resources or people-power of a small area. We've live in tribes before, and that was all great and dandy, but tribalism is also something that occurs, and isn't so great after awhile, which is why we evolved out of it. I do agree that we need better decentralized policies and representation though. Even in a one world situation, we'd still need to have 'proper' representation of regions as well as tailored solutions for each area and unique challenge faced. However, that doesn't mean that a one-world gov't couldn't establish fundamental rights and freedoms from the get go to establish, standardize and enforce equality and human rights legislation and policies and enforcement. It could also standardize many other benefits such as health and education.

Decentralization of power is a good idea, but again, small areas don't have the means to look after themselves without being dependent on other areas, given our current state of living, population, and other factors. There is a place for being self-reliant and self-sufficient, but it should be an either or proposition when talking about that, and reliance on others. We're a species that thrives when we don't isolate ourselves from ourselves, but learn to rely on each other, and work cooperatively to tackle large problems.

fair enough, i just don't see people getting along enough to sustain that ubergovernment. someone will always feel unrepresented and disenfranchised, and will rebel.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:38 AM

fair enough, i just don't see people getting along enough to sustain that ubergovernment. someone will always feel unrepresented and disenfranchised, and will rebel.


The needs and benefits of the many should and could outweigh the paranoia and distrust of the few.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:49 AM

Doesn't Illuminati mean enlightened ones? Weren't they the group of individuals which went underground to avoid persecution from the Catholic church? If I am not mistaken weren't they or aren't they comprised of some of the most intellegent and bright individuals to have ever lived? If that is all true it would seem to me that it would be a positive thing having learned people running the planet. In a sense this is much better than the thought of an average good ol' boy like Dubyah running the show. I can't see how the elite with all that they have (Also the most to lose) would desire the world to end. I can't see how some of the smartest people in the world would think that the destruction of human civilization could be the answer to any problem.

I get that fear is the easiest way to control the masses, but if there was a group of individuals running the world from a secert oligarchy who were determined to see the end of the world, wouldn't they have done it already? Couldn't they have done it already since the invention of the Nuclear Bomb? It makes no sense for the haves to want everything to come to an end. For without the have nots these people would cease to be elite.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:52 AM

The needs and benefits of the many should and could outweigh the paranoia and distrust of the few.

should, being the key word. looking at the state of the world right now, i'd say we're a long ways off from that ideal.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:55 AM

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Doesn't Illuminati mean enlightened ones? Weren't they the group of individuals which went underground to avoid persecution from the Catholic church? If I am not mistaken weren't they or aren't they comprised of some of the most intellegent and bright individuals to have ever lived? If that is all true it would seem to me that it would be a positive thing having learned people running the planet. In a sense this is much better than the thought of an average good ol' boy like Dubyah running the show. I can't see how the elite with all that they have (Also the most to lose) would desire the world to end. I can't see how some of the smartest people in the world would think that the destruction of human civilization could be the answer to any problem.

I get that fear is the easiest way to control the masses, but if there was a group of individuals running the world from a secert oligarchy who were determined to see the end of the world, wouldn't they have done it already? Couldn't they have done it already since the invention of the Nuclear Bomb? It makes no sense for the haves to want everything to come to an end. For without the have nots these people would cease to be elite.


But such thinking would be 'inconvenient' to the preconceived notions of the conspiracy theorists, HB! And we all know that anything, no matter how factual or truthful, just doesn't/cannot/isn't allowed to penetrate the tunnel vision and fear that keeps such individuals tied to their doggerel.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:01 PM

Just saying, wouldn't it be suspicious and 'coincidental' if for some reason these Olympics get attacked when all/most the past ones weren't? Not to mention, these London Olympics have the highest security budget ever at $1.5 bill with more to be added and it's the highest technological out there....don't think terrorists could get by that tbh, and it'd have to be it was 'Illuminati/gov' based if an attack does happen because of these conspiracy videos that state it was a possibility all along and the signs they've given in commercials.

If nothing happens, I was wrong - doesn't hurt me to say I wasn't right - but if it does, don't try covering up and saying it was by terrorists because no terrorists can get by the immense and advanced security these has these Olympics has and the terrorist you can blame it on is the Illuminati as again, they have forshadowed this a lot in the past 2 years.


2 out of the past 10 isn't exactly a low rate of terrorist attacks at the Olympics (Munich and Atlanta). Bring all the security you won't, it wouldn't stop an event like a bomb or a plane. It is simply not a vindication for your conspiracy theories if there is an attack.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:16 PM

Just saying, wouldn't it be suspicious and 'coincidental' if for some reason these Olympics get attacked when all/most the past ones weren't? Not to mention, these London Olympics have the highest security budget ever at $1.5 bill with more to be added and it's the highest technological out there....don't think terrorists could get by that tbh, and it'd have to be it was 'Illuminati/gov' based if an attack does happen because of these conspiracy videos that state it was a possibility all along and the signs they've given in commercials.

If nothing happens, I was wrong - doesn't hurt me to say I wasn't right - but if it does, don't try covering up and saying it was by terrorists because no terrorists can get by the immense and advanced security these has these Olympics has and the terrorist you can blame it on is the Illuminati as again, they have forshadowed this a lot in the past 2 years.


Munich and Atlanta in the past 40 years.
Thats 2 out of 10.
London is one of the highest profile cities in the world, and the Olympics also come during a time of intense turmoil in many parts of the world (but I guess there usually is). There have also been numerous reports that their security so far has been like Swiss Cheese, and more than a few gaffs have already occurred.
In all honesty, an attack wouldn't surprise me all that much.
What would surprise me is an attack plotted by some mystic all knowing group, that left everybody subtle clues that the attack was going to happen, but despite leaving clues that it was really them, they still went out and found a scapegoat to blame it on, because despite letting people know it was them, they don't want people to know it was them, so they had to find somebody else to blame. That would make no sense.

But yeah, sorry I forgot, the Illuminati were behind Munich and Atlanta too weren't they?
I forgot no world event can occur without them being behind it.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:16 PM

Not that I'm saying im looking towards an attack, that'd be just awful, but there is the potential of one happening so yea, an if it does happen, people will just say it was a terrorist attack when it wasn't really.

Isn't that the definition of a terrorist attack? Does it really matter who commits the act? The scenario you propose would be an act of terror. So any attack of that nature regardless of who is the perpetrator technically is a terrorist attack.

2 out of the past 10 isn't exactly a low rate of terrorist attacks at the Olympics (Munich and Atlanta). Bring all the security you won't, it wouldn't stop an event like a bomb or a plane. It is simply not a vindication for your conspiracy theories if there is an attack.


Actually there is an almost zero chance of it being a plane. I was watching a special report on the air security that will be implemented during the olympics and any plane not authorized will be shot down long before it could be a potential threat. Long range missles may be another story though.


As a final note on this topic - I really feel that the mental energies we project are able to in essence become what we experience. So I urge all to not focus on the possibility of there being a catastrophic tradgedy during the Olympics, but rather focus on what we want to see - A great global event filled with sportsmanship and wonderful feats of human skill. The Olympics should be a show of hope that the world can come together peacefully and build a bright future where we endevour to understand and work with one another regardless of race or religion.

We are all passengers on a giant rock flying through an empty void and all we have is each other. So lets try to believe the best in humanity and focus on the positives that the Olympics bring rather than anything negative which may or may not happen but in reality may or may not happen each and every day.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:19 PM

should, being the key word. looking at the state of the world right now, i'd say we're a long ways off from that ideal.


I was going to respond with something insightful and counter to the sentiment behind your post, but then I realized that someone else had already said what I was thinking, so much more effectively and eloquently.

- Men often hate each other because they fear each other; they fear each other because they don't know each other; they don't know each other because they can not communicate; they can not communicate because they are separated.

- True peace is not merely the absence of tension: it is the presence of justice.

- We must live together as brothers or perish together as fools.

- We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.

- The question is not whether we will be extremists, but what kind of extremists we will be. Will we be extremists for hate or for love? Will we be extremists for the preservation of injustice or for the extension of justice?

- Power properly understood is nothing but the ability to achieve purpose. It is the strength required to bring about social, political and economic change....There is nothing wrong with power if power is used correctly

- What is needed is a realization that power without love is reckless and abusive, and love without power is sentimental and anemic. Power at its best is love implementing the demands of justice, and justice at its best is power correcting everything that stands against love.

- Communism forgets that life is individual. Capitalism forgets that life is social, and the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism but in a higher synthesis. It is found in a higher synthesis that combines the truths of both.

- Be concerned about your brother. You may not be on strike. But either we go up together, or we go down together.

- Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice


Anyways, i hope there was a good enough counterpoint or at least something to complement your post, in there somewhere.

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