Unlucky to be a Canucks fan...? Heart goes out to Colorado victims :(

[Deets]

I'm sorry, but this is really faulty logic. The sad fact is that when more guns are put into more hands then the likelihood of accidental shootings skyrocket. The cowboy mentality of "if everyone had a gun no one would shoot each other" is plain false.

The truth of the matter is that if someone in the crowd had a gun they would be more likely to shoot an innocent bystander than the actual gunman.

[babych]

LOL, and where did you hear that from? If you are more likely to shoot innocent bystanders, why do they give guns to cops?

“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”

Dalai Lama XIV

[jonnycanuck46]

How does executing him make us better than him?

[Tortorella's Rant]

71 innocent people were shot, 12 of those people died. The family and friends of these people have potentially had their lives ruined by this fu*king coward.

He is not innocent, and he doesn't deserve to breath the same air as the family and friends of these victims.

Life is a gift. James Holmes doesn't deserve his life.

Execute him.

[jiffyjc12]

It sure does happen in Canada. Happened this past week in Ontario. The states also has several times the amount of people living there. Statistically it would happen more frequently down there. If it was just the amount of guns that made people violent, places like Switzerland would be the most violent place in the world. They are required by law that each household must carry a military rifle in their home.

[goalie13]

dont push all that trash down our throats. They'd take his life to save many others, and to do justice to the countless lives who have been affected by his killing spree.

There's a time to be politically correct, and there's a time to use a bit of damn common sense. Eye for an eye, or in this case, eye for many, many eyes.

[Super_Canuck]

This world is just getting worse. God bless the souls of all the victims

[canIcrytoo]

Good to see everyones TRUE colours come out. Gotta love the opinionated posts, that have nothing to do with hockey. We can have 5000 threads about luongo be locked within seconds of being posted, but one about death and mass shootings, hey lets let it run because it has everything to do with the green men and the Canucks. Well done admins, keep it classy.

[Deets]

Now you're being silly. There's a huge difference between cops (who are trained to use firearms), and the average citizen (who may receive minimal training, at best).

In an earlier post you cited Switzerland as an example of how the number of guns in a population doesn't mean more gun violence. What you failed to mention is that the Swiss government has compulsory military service for all men. After their military training they are required to keep their firearm in case they are called upon to defend their homeland.

This is a completely different scenario than the States. More lax gun regulations leads to more guns in the hands of people that are not really trained to use them.

Would having a cop in the theater lessened the number of lives lost? Very likely.

Would having an average, gun-toting citizen in the same situation yield the same result? Improbable at best. Again, unless that person practiced regularly at a gun range, they would be just as likely to miss and injure another innocent.

[Special Ed]

Good to see everyones TRUE colours come out. Gotta love the opinionated posts, that have nothing to do with hockey. We can have 5000 threads about luongo be locked within seconds of being posted, but one about death and mass shootings, hey lets let it run because it has everything to do with the green men and the Canucks. Well done admins, keep it classy.

[jiffyjc12]

Quite honestly there is something many people are neglecting and that's the fact that this person is obviously mentally unstable. As are all of the mass murderers. To say that if we had tougher laws, such as capital punishment, these crimes may not happen is ignorant. These people don't think sanely before committing such acts.

[iLLmAtlc]

Oh please... it's because of people like you that we will spend most of our lives paying taxes to support this garbage as they get a nice bed, a gym, and 3 meals a day.

This is why Vince Li is found not criminally responsible and is allowed to parade around on the streets again.

This is why Andres Breivik is now living in a nicer facility than I am and is going to have chess playing parters because it is "too cruel" to put him in isolation.

This is why Magnotta will face exactly the same fate.

Extreme pacifism, or whatever it is you have, is just as bad as extreme violence. Get back to me when, God forbid, one of those victims is your wife, husband, daughter, son, father, mother, or best friend. You will be singing a different tune.

[goalie13]

Good to see everyones TRUE colours come out. Gotta love the opinionated posts, that have nothing to do with hockey. We can have 5000 threads about luongo be locked within seconds of being posted, but one about death and mass shootings, hey lets let it run because it has everything to do with the green men and the Canucks. Well done admins, keep it classy.

[MC Fatigue]

So sad. What is the answer? <I don't think anyone truly nows. Some good observations and ideas in this thread but would any truly prevent such a trajedy?

In the meantime, my heart goes out to the victims and their families.

[Stefan]

I was under the impression the girl in the OP was a Canucks fan.

So hence Canucks talk?

[Guest BuckFoston]

Wow, America is a stupid place with stupid owners.

I was watching Colbert a while back and he had an American on who wrote a book about Canada after having to stay there for a summer. He was amazed at how different it was. Colbert asked him for examples and he said, "Well you can't carry guns around there".

Colbert's reply was, "Wow, that is so unsafe, how would we protect ourselves."?

Our society is a bad joke.

[canIcrytoo]

So you've never had a conversation that started on one topic and then went off on a tangent? I think the OP's intent, as someone else mentioned, was to put it in Canucks talk based on the story of a Canuck fan being amongst the victims.

If you don't like the direction the discussion has gone you are free to report it to the moderating team. They don't have the time to read every thread. The Luongo threads that get locked are because someone that is tired of seeing 5000 Luongo threads makes the effort to report them.

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