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#151 DownUndaCanuck

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:21 AM

Problem is he'll want some job security, around a 2 or 3 year deal at the least and hopefully up to a 5 year deal to keep him playing until he's ready to retire or 40.

This is a big gamble for a guy who is not only 35, but plays a hard, physical style of game that will wear on his old body. He's expecting a long term deal which I doubt MG will offer, 3 years at 5 million per is a lot considering he'll be 38 in his last season and probably a 3rd or 4th liner by then.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:59 AM

please can we sign someone good NO PLUGS

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 10:17 AM

Problem is he'll want some job security, around a 2 or 3 year deal at the least and hopefully up to a 5 year deal to keep him playing until he's ready to retire or 40.

This is a big gamble for a guy who is not only 35, but plays a hard, physical style of game that will wear on his old body. He's expecting a long term deal which I doubt MG will offer, 3 years at 5 million per is a lot considering he'll be 38 in his last season and probably a 3rd or 4th liner by then.


The only reason he is a risk, is because the Nucks are always so close to the cap and have too much money tied up in underperforming players (Raymond, Ballard, Luongo, Booth, Malhotra).

To be willing to pay $4M + for Booth or Ballard but not $5M+ for Doan is short-sighted.

The man has played hard hockey for 16 years with almost no injuries and is still one of the most fit athletes in theeleague. Age is a factor but if you let that be your judge, you will miss out on a player that is capable of playing at least 3-4 good years and bringing to this team intangibles (and tangibles) that this team has never had and has demonstrated it needs. There are exceptions to the age factor (Chelios, Lidstrom etc) and I believe Doan to be one of those.

Doan is an impact player; a game changer. The kind of player that leads by example and will carry a team on his back if he has to. The closest thing we have to him is Burrows (in a miniature package).

Doan brings the hard-working, honest toughness that the Nucks lack. He's like Kesler without the diving, beaking-off, arrogance and injuries. He would change the locker room climate in a positive way and make everyone (maybe even Raymond) man-up!!

MG needs this guy!

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 10:31 AM

People keep saying we're so hard-up for cash against the cap.

SO incorrect.

#1 Ryan Kesler is on IR
#2 Roberto Luongo WILL be traded, and his contract along with it,
#3 We still have 3.2 million remaining in cap space without making any other moves.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 10:34 AM

AND PS. Getting Doan, would be like gettin Trevor Linden back in his prime.

They are the same player, only Doan's a winger.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 10:38 AM

AND PS. Getting Doan, would be like gettin Trevor Linden back in his prime.

They are the same player, only Doan's a winger.


so was linden.

edit: also getting trevor linden in his prime would be getting a 30 goal, 80 point ironman along with the intangibles. 35 year old shane doan is no 24 year old trevor linden. hell, 24 year old shane doan was no 24 year old trevor linden.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 10:45 AM

So he met with the NY Rangers, is he meeting someone different today?

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 10:52 AM

So he met with the NY Rangers, is he meeting someone different today?


philly

if I had to guess, it would then go pittsburgh, buffalo (maybe), detroit, vancouver, san jose, los angeles before going home to phoenix. i suspect despite interest from 16 teams, those are the ones he would narrow it down to and that pattern makes the most geographic sense.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:16 AM

so was linden.

edit: also getting trevor linden in his prime would be getting a 30 goal, 80 point ironman along with the intangibles. 35 year old shane doan is no 24 year old trevor linden. hell, 24 year old shane doan was no 24 year old trevor linden.


Well, for the record:
1. Linden was a centre, he played wing later and earlier in his career. But Linden in his prime was a centre.
2. In his prime (1991-1996) Linden averaged 66Pts per year, Doan, in the last 6 years of his career has averaged 61 Points per year, on a team that is FAR worse than the team Linden had.
3. They are both Canadian, both have gold medals playing for team Canada. "Captain Canada and Captain Canuck".
4. Both players are small-town Alberta boys.
5. Both players are natural leaders, class acts, and throwback hockey players that will do anything to win.
6. Doan and Linden were drafted in the top 10.



My point is that they are both VERY similar players, aside from the C/W thing.

Getting Doan today, is like getting Trevor Linden in his prime.

I'm sticking to that POV.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:25 AM

U have to remember were also trading Luo away.... im sure we'll pick up our few missing pieces with that trade.... Not to mention ol Raymond ... im sure he'll be a part of that deal.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:42 AM


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Western conference teams that Doan has on his list are #SJSharks and #Canucks (strong possibility for VAN am being told).

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:24 PM

Doan is only worth it for 4 mil or under a season. Canucks could definitely use his heart and size in the top 6 but he doesn't fit the Canucks style (speed and puck possesion) or needs ( playmaking ability) IMO. He is being pumped up right now because of a weak UFA market. This team needs to continue to get younger not older, who know what will happen with the Luongo trade, Gillis might end up taking on more salary to ensure a decent return, so the Canucks cannot afford to pay Doan what he will most likely get.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:40 PM

Doan is only worth it for 4 mil or under a season. Canucks could definitely use his heart and size in the top 6 but he doesn't fit the Canucks style (speed and puck possesion) or needs ( playmaking ability) IMO. He is being pumped up right now because of a weak UFA market. This team needs to continue to get younger not older, who know what will happen with the Luongo trade, Gillis might end up taking on more salary to ensure a decent return, so the Canucks cannot afford to pay Doan what he will most likely get.


Agreed. I think Gillis' main goal is to bring back a young center prospect. He has no one up and coming other than Guance who could possibly yet make a case for the first line one day (basically a gamble). If we free up cap space from the Luongo trade as well as dumping Ballard, and Raymonds contract being up next year. I feel they can still resign Burrows and Edler while being able to make a pitch for Doan.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 03:58 PM

Architect you sum it up best. Gillis won't over pay and will move to the next option. Gillis has a lot of options, more than most think.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 05:39 PM

Agreed. I think Gillis' main goal is to bring back a young center prospect. He has no one up and coming other than Guance who could possibly yet make a case for the first line one day (basically a gamble). If we free up cap space from the Luongo trade as well as dumping Ballard, and Raymonds contract being up next year. I feel they can still resign Burrows and Edler while being able to make a pitch for Doan.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 05:52 PM

Schroeder?

Schroeder?


Shroeder definitely has a chance, I just think at this point he's even more of a gamble than Guance is. If MG wants this team to remain a contender, he needs to bring in someone who has serious potential. That's all I'm getting at.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 05:53 PM

Architect you sum it up best. Gillis won't over pay and will move to the next option. Gillis has a lot of options, more than most think.


If you want the top free agents you have to play the over pay game, plain and simple.

And as for the comment about Gillis having lots of options my only response is...ha ha ha ha...

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 06:52 PM

I find it funny to speculate about how much a player is worth...
To me getting a player like Doan adds a dimension we lack and gives AV new options.
You really think Doan wouldn't have responded when Sedin was used as a punching bag in the final?
I also think our own players would be held to a higher standard with Shane in the room.
I say the Canucks win the series with a Doan in the line-up!
Adding leadership is always a positive and as long a Shane has desire he is a huge asset.
Honestly if Doan’s agent said he wants to play for the Canucks I'd open the vault for him.
You know how much a cup winning team will make the owners, I can only speculate it will be far more than Shane would make over the length on a contract.
But really does he want to play here?
I doubt it, Phoenix is his 1st choice IMO after that I'm not sure but I don't think we're the lotus land for players that we fans seem to think.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 07:23 PM

I will be shocked if he doesn't sign with us!!MG knows talent and leadership and like said Sundin came here why wouldn't Doan and why wouldn't MG give him what he wants when he is from BC! :towel:


He's from Alberta...

Oh hello Alain Vigneault, I see what you did there... good one.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 07:29 PM

^ Ya unfortunately he's not from BC, but he is part owner of the Blazers, and his wife his from Kamloops as well, so you never know...
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 07:38 PM

If what I'm hearing is correct, and Doan is checking out practice facilities and the cities themselves, we're going to be in pretty good shape. Don't we have one of, if not the best practice facility/staff/etc. in the NHL? And as long as he's here on a sunny day im sure it won't be hard to fall in love with Vancouver
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:01 PM

If what I'm hearing is correct, and Doan is checking out practice facilities and the cities themselves, we're going to be in pretty good shape. Don't we have one of, if not the best practice facility/staff/etc. in the NHL? And as long as he's here on a sunny day im sure it won't be hard to fall in love with Vancouver


He will be getting a tour from each team. It will include the city itsef along with the facilities, opportunity to win a cup, personnel, his role, the coach, owners etc.

It could boil down to who his linemates will be or teh style of the coach as much as the city or training facilities. Who knows what he is looking for.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:11 PM

He will be getting a tour from each team. It will include the city itsef along with the facilities, opportunity to win a cup, personnel, his role, the coach, owners etc.

It could boil down to who his linemates will be or teh style of the coach as much as the city or training facilities. Who knows what he is looking for.


Ahhh ok. Even so, when it comes to his criteria pertaining to off ice activities and facilities, we should have the advantage. Hopefully that can cover up some things that we may not be able to offer him (ice time, line mates, money/term)
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:27 PM

People keep saying we're so hard-up for cash against the cap.

SO incorrect.

#1 Ryan Kesler is on IR
#2 Roberto Luongo WILL be traded, and his contract along with it,
#3 We still have 3.2 million remaining in cap space without making any other moves.


Canucks will be taking back some salary in a trade, for sure.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:54 PM

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:07 PM

I find it funny to speculate about how much a player is worth...
To me getting a player like Doan adds a dimension we lack and gives AV new options.
You really think Doan wouldn't have responded when Sedin was used as a punching bag in the final?
I also think our own players would be held to a higher standard with Shane in the room.
I say the Canucks win the series with a Doan in the line-up!
Adding leadership is always a positive and as long a Shane has desire he is a huge asset.
Honestly if Doan’s agent said he wants to play for the Canucks I'd open the vault for him.
You know how much a cup winning team will make the owners, I can only speculate it will be far more than Shane would make over the length on a contract.
But really does he want to play here?
I doubt it, Phoenix is his 1st choice IMO after that I'm not sure but I don't think we're the lotus land for players that we fans seem to think.


We missed a veteran player like Doan since we lost Samuelsson and matt Sundin
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:28 PM

Ahhh ok. Even so, when it comes to his criteria pertaining to off ice activities and facilities, we should have the advantage. Hopefully that can cover up some things that we may not be able to offer him (ice time, line mates, money/term)


Well, I'm pretty sure he would be a top 6 foward here, also member of our PP and PK, he is great in both situations. Having the Sedins or Kesler and Booth as line mates sounds pretty good to me. What makes me worry is, of course, the money/term.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:33 PM

We missed a veteran player like Doan since we lost Samuelsson and matt Sundin

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:32 PM

please can we sign someone good NO PLUGS


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:31 AM

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Western conference teams that Doan has on his list are #SJSharks and #Canucks (strong possibility for VAN am being told).


errrrr. hockey insiderr is an invalid source. Why are people still giving him a positive? Don't you guys find it suspicous that he is the only guy "hearing" crap? I can't believe you guys are so gulible.

 

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