kjames05 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'll go first. Poile negotiates a trade. It's almost obvious that Weber wants out now that Suter is gone and the Preds chances of being a contender every year has greatly diminished. But Poile can't let Weber go for what is likely to be 4 20+ overall draft picks. I think Poile will tell Holmgren that he will match unless they work out a favourable deal for Nash. What that deal is I'm not sure but it likely will start with Couturier + Voracek + more. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank's Secret Sauce Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Since Weber signed the offersheet it's too late to negotiate a trade. If they match it, they still can't trade him for a year. It almost seems like a no-brainer to match and then consider trading him after a year (for a lot more then the 4 late firsts) but I believe Weber is set to make $27M in that one year (wow) which is a huge hurdle for a smaller market team like Nashville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 They can't trade Weber. If I were Poile, I'd match if the owners say I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabychStache Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Let him walk. Cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Mouse! Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I suspect they will allow him to go to Philly. Then they will likely make a trade with the Flyers, and pick up a player or two while sending a couple of Philly's draft picks back. Poile and Holmgren are friends and have a good relationship, so I suspect they will parlay this into a bigger transaction which helps both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Since Weber signed the offersheet it's too late to negotiate a trade. If they match it, they still can't trade him for a year. It almost seems like a no-brainer to match and then consider trading him after a year (for a lot more then the 4 late firsts) but I believe Weber is set to make $27M in that one year (wow) which is a huge hurdle for a smaller market team like Nashville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 He needs to invest the owners money in inventing a time machine. Go back to July,1 last year and sign Suter/Weber both to 6-8 year deals. Then trade Radulov's rights to Phoenix to sabotage them in their second round match-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyking Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 He won't make 27M in one year there's a rule in the CBA stating a player can only 20% of the cap a year so 70.2M * 0.2 = 14.04M. So 14.04M is the maximum he can make. That's nowhere near 27M I have no idea where you got that... (of course they are ratifying a new CBA but still I highly doubt 27M contracts will be allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Here is what I do and why. The Team Captain signed a deal with another team. That is as good as kissing Nashville goodbye, in the mafia sense of the term. If you match it, your buying a guy who doesn't want to play there, has no heart in it and will have to be stripped of the C anyways. It is not worth the 26m a year for the first six years that it will cost the owners, who have an internal cap lower than the real one. You let him go, curse the luck and plan out what to do with 8 first round picks over the next four seasons. You also buy the best UFA's available right now to stock the team for at least the year and go from there. I would bring in old timers, 35+ on short term contracts but stagger them 1 2 and 3 year deals, so you can add pieces each offseason. That is what I do. Kubina Spacek, and any other old but good Dman you can get your hands on. (*I picked those two from my Fantasy Hockey Team, haha...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 He won't make 27M in one year there's a rule in the CBA stating a player can only 20% of the cap a year so 70.2M * 0.2 = 14.04M. So 14.04M is the maximum he can make. That's nowhere near 27M I have no idea where you got that... (of course they are ratifying a new CBA but still I highly doubt 27M contracts will be allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 He trades us Rinne, Fisher, Erat, Gaustad and Hornqvist for Luo and a 7th. Why? Because I said so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermelons Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 He won't make 27M in one year there's a rule in the CBA stating a player can only 20% of the cap a year so 70.2M * 0.2 = 14.04M. So 14.04M is the maximum he can make. That's nowhere near 27M I have no idea where you got that... (of course they are ratifying a new CBA but still I highly doubt 27M contracts will be allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Knowing Poile he will do everything he can to match... unless ownership steps in and says they can't commit that much for that long on one player. The Preds ownership has given Poile the green light before... i think they do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Its true that he can only make 20% of the cap of a team during ONE SEASON, but from what I have heard on the news, Weber is allowed to make the $26-27 million in ONE CALENDAR YEAR...so I think he makes money during the offseason as well, therefore not counting as cap space. At least that is my understanding of the situation, I'd be glad to be corrected if I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Knowing Poile he will do everything he can to match... unless ownership steps in and says they can't commit that much for that long on one player. The Preds ownership has given Poile the green light before... i think they do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossram Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 He won't make 27M in one year there's a rule in the CBA stating a player can only 20% of the cap a year so 70.2M * 0.2 = 14.04M. So 14.04M is the maximum he can make. That's nowhere near 27M I have no idea where you got that... (of course they are ratifying a new CBA but still I highly doubt 27M contracts will be allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossram Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Regarding the actual topic, Poile absolutely has to match. If he loses Weber after already losing Suter, he has essentially lost the entire franchise and core. The fans will be upset and Nashville will have no choice but to start a rebuild from scratch. All the work toward building the fanbase, franchise and making the playoffs will be erased. No matter the financial burden on the owners, they have to match and figure it out from there. If Weber demands a trade in a year, Poile can selectively get the package he wants in return and it will surely be more valuable than four first rounders. He could get young, impact, core, franchise building players in return. Simply, they have to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFBR392 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Here is what I do and why. The Team Captain signed a deal with another team. That is as good as kissing Nashville goodbye, in the mafia sense of the term. If you match it, your buying a guy who doesn't want to play there, has no heart in it and will have to be stripped of the C anyways. It is not worth the 26m a year for the first six years that it will cost the owners, who have an internal cap lower than the real one. You let him go, curse the luck and plan out what to do with 8 first round picks over the next four seasons. You also buy the best UFA's available right now to stock the team for at least the year and go from there. I would bring in old timers, 35+ on short term contracts but stagger them 1 2 and 3 year deals, so you can add pieces each offseason. That is what I do. Kubina Spacek, and any other old but good Dman you can get your hands on. (*I picked those two from my Fantasy Hockey Team, haha...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningWild Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The only options I see are matching, or negotiating a trade. No way Poile lets Weber walk for 4 -1st round picks. I think Philly screwed themselves, big time. They're going to give up young assets they didn't want to part with in the first place (Couturier or Schenn ++) or Ensure they never get Weber and potentially peeve off some GM's in the process I can see why Gillis didn't want to offersheet Weber for a long term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 He won't make 27M in one year there's a rule in the CBA stating a player can only 20% of the cap a year so 70.2M * 0.2 = 14.04M. So 14.04M is the maximum he can make. That's nowhere near 27M I have no idea where you got that... (of course they are ratifying a new CBA but still I highly doubt 27M contracts will be allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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