elvis15 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Its too sunny in Kelowna to finish this. I will put the link in this thread later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyking Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Elvis quoted an article which stated that Weber's agent said on the radio that he and his client visited six different cities to talk to teams regarding offers. A restricted free agent is STILL a free agent. There's just a different rule that applies to RFA's that their current team reserves the right to match whatever offer other teams make to that particular player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 26million in the 1st year, 80million in first 6yrs and 110million over all say hi! You don't care you aren't the one who has to write a cheque for 26million bucks next year. Oh and you probably complain that tickets to the game cost too much too right? Imagine if they signed him what happens to ticket prices then? Yup the team needs to pay that 110million some how. So yeah no thanks to Weber and that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 the rights are remained by the team so NHL Bylaw 15 applies. Then again NHL Bylaw 15 has been violated before with out a fine actually only organization that has be fined by it was Toronto by the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Yes it is about cash! We signed Luongo to 10 plus years for $50 mill. Weber will get that in the first 3 & 1/2 years. After that its a bargain, but its realy about whether you can cover $14 mill each for the first 3 years (Lou had 1 year at $10), still remain solvent, and is there a way to turn a profit in that time, on that investment? Here it would, Philly for sure, Nashville??? The funny part is its a better overall deal than Suter or Parise's. Sure Weber wanted to play here, sure Owners & Mgmt wanted Weber but Philly wanted him more and proved it by the contract they signed him to. In the end it's not about what you want it's all about cold hard cash!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Please, this franchise prints money. If Minnesota can give Parise & Suter $90M each, the Canucks can EASILY give $100M to Weber. Not an excuse. Would not have an effect on ticket prices, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 If the Canucks could've acquired Weber, they would've. Do people expect Nashville to hand him over to a rival? Do people expect them to not match any offer we'd make for him, considering we're a rival? Do people expect Nashville to let him walk for nothing as a UFA? (This was the only way we were getting him, btw) Just wondering what the plan was supposed to be. We offer? They match. We try to trade. They say no. So... Wait until he's 40, then sign him as a UFA? Sounds about right. Weber to the Canucks was always a non-starter. Crying about it is like crying about losing the 6/49. Boo-hoo-hoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carib_canuck Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Please, this franchise prints money. If Minnesota can give Parise & Suter $90M each, the Canucks can EASILY give $100M to Weber. Not an excuse. Would not have an effect on ticket prices, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Ed Willes is a fool, one of the worst sports journalists in a city full of terrible sports journalism. Anything he says can be immediately discounted. Aquilini should call in some favours and have this guy banished to the Toronto Star where he can be at home with the rest of his Canucks-hating compatriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrrFour Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'm going to post this illuminating article by Botch which will hopefully clear up some misconceptions about the Weber situation that I'm reading in this thread. Clearly, the canucks think Web is worth the money and the long term contract, however, they think Nashville will match. I disagree with Botch's conclusion however. I think we have a chance to trade for him if the preds match and trade him in a year. The canucks will be in the hunt to get him. How many teams will have the money, a contending team and prospects to get him? "Somewhere in the Lower Mainland there should be a room where the local fans’ dreams go to die. There would be a Joe Sakic Canucks jersey. There would be a Scott Niedermayer Canucks jersey. And you can now add a Shea Weber No. 6 in blue and green to the display. But the fans weren’t the only ones dreaming of a Norris-caliber dman playing in Rogers Arena sometime soon. So was management, and ownership. If there was one player the Canucks were willing to go all-in for, it was Weber. It’s why they had multiple meetings to try and come up with a way to land him, giving long consideration to signing the restricted free agent to an offer sheet. “We looked at it 16 ways to Sunday,” assistant general manager Laurence Gilman said of an offer sheet. “But we couldn’t come up with scenario where we were going to get the player. “And if you can’t get the player, what’s the point?” If the Canucks thought the Nashville Predators might not match a long-term deal, like the 14-year, $110 million offer sheet Weber signed with the Philadelphia Flyers, they would have been willing to go that high. “He’s one player you look at and see he’s worth it,” Gilman said. But the Canucks never offered Weber a contract. The Preds now have seven days to match, when we’ll find out if Vancouver’s gamble was right. It seems implausible the Preds won’t match, but not impossible. The contract looks like it is precisely what Weber is worth after Ryan Suter’s 13-year, $98-million deal set the market for top-tier blueliners. If the Predators were able to make twin $85-$90 million offers for Suter and Zach Parise, as has been reported, surely they have enough cash on hand to match the Weber offer sheet. The Predators may not be thrilled with the up-front money, but they now can get Weber signed for long-term at market price. One issue, and this is one only Weber can answer, is whether or not he really wants out of Nashville. If he does, how much of an appetite will the Predators have in keeping a disgruntled player who is essentially their franchise? It’s why some believe the Predators could still essentially trade Weber to Philadelphia. They can’t trade Weber specifically, but in the next seven days they could agree not to match, and then trade the composition — four first-round picks — back to Philly for a more appealing package. But the length of the deal inherently suggests Weber doesn’t mind Tennessee. The Predators have been open in saying they will match any contract and he’d understand that’s the most likely scenario. If the Predators match, they then can’t trade Weber for a year. Is it possible he’s disgruntled in a season if the team doesn’t make the playoffs? How about in two years? Could he pull a Rick Nash? What then? Would the Canucks be in the mix? Seems doubtful. If the Predators have to trade Weber after paying him $24 million in the first year, they are going to be looking for an mind-blowing return to make it worth their investment. So, for Canucks fans, the Weber dream is dead. Long live the Weber dream." Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/business/Shea+Weber+dream+Canucks+fans+dies+with+110M+offer+from+Philly/6960016/story.html#ixzz21IqNGN18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrrFour Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 EASILY ... you silly silly little man. Talk about something you have a clue about, leave the intelligent topics to people who actually get paid to do these things like Gilis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 So are you Botch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrrFour Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Ed Willes is a fool, one of the worst sports journalists in a city full of terrible sports journalism. Anything he says can be immediately discounted. Aquilini should call in some favours and have this guy banished to the Toronto Star where he can be at home with the rest of his Canucks-hating compatriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Yes the canucks can handle Weber's contract EASILY. The contract is not an issue for the canucks. We are a high revenue team with money to burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrrFour Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I think it's premature to criticize the canucks for their inaction. We have to see how this all unravels. Is nashv talking to Phil right now about trading for more compensation if nashv doesn't match? Will Nashville match? Will they trade Web in a year? two yrs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Willes is a good journalist. He writes for a respected paper. He's not some guy blogging from his mom's basement that gets all his 'scoops' from the internet. He clearly has some inside info regarding ownership's and Weber's desire to hookup. Go ahead and disagree with him, but he's not a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrrFour Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Not easly with; the salary cap, Burrows and Edler needing to re-sign, top six forward needed, Loungo's trade bringing back equal salary and the possiblity of the cap coming back down after next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Ballard and Booth were a part of some bad floridia teams, while Garrison is coming from a good florida team. One that came soooooo close to beating the Eastern Conference Champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead420 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 If that's the case, what do you think of the Jason Garrison contract? Smart? 6 years, $4.6M per for a guy who's had 1 productive season? And the money is ALWAYS a factor, I agree. But that doesn't take away from the fact that MG chose to not sign Weber to an offer sheet. Knowing the cost, he CHOSE to pass. Don't tell me that the Canucks couldn't afford him. It was a CHOICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 From my understanding, Nashville can still trade Weber's rights until the 7 days to match has expired. Its presumed Poille is negotiating with the Flyers to see what they can work out, and the Flyers will be offering as Nashville has the option to match. names batted about; Grossman, Coutierre, two first and? There is also nothing stopping the Canucks from offering a package??? To me Edler (if Poille can signe him), Booth, Schroeder and two first is more attractive and fills our needs, assuming either Jensen of Kassian can crack the line up on the right side? Hmmmmm, and we WOULD match Phillies offer sheet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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