The Lock Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 That's the exact attitude that will keep the rafters at Rogers Arena COMPLETELY BARE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 This thread was as amusing as a car wreck. And the post-event denial is as sad as a car wreck aftermath. Thank you, Ed Willes, for entertaining us with your three unsubstantiated, flawed and seemingly worthless tweets that someone decided to run with and massively blow out of proportion. I'M USING CAPITAL LETTERS NOW. LOOK AT ME! Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane42 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Gillis' assessment of Preds response to offer sheet proven correct; Willes looks the part of a tool. Ownership wants... blah, blah. What I want... blah, blah. Meanwhile out in the real world... Why permanently fracture relations with a club for chance at something doomed to fail? Wouldn't even want Webber for any of 14 million per one season or the everlasting front loaded stuff. That's $ best spent elsewhere. D is not this team's problem. Hasn't been one for years. Even so we're now, on paper at least, better defensively, more physical and considerably younger. Now if Garrison does for Edler half of what Hamhuis did for Bieaksa we're laughing. Upgrading the forward ranks is where it is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrrFour Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 No, it was impatience that kept things off the rafters. - trading away Neely, an act of impatience - trading away Linden, an act of impatience All of the big splashes that were made in the past via Burke, via Quinn, none of that got us the cup. The past 5 years we have had the best team we have ever had. We used patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 In 2013, when the Sedin's are 33, Burrows & Bieksa are 32, Hamhuis is 31, etc. Seriously, am I the only one that feels a sense of urgency here, if this organization ever wants to actually win a CUP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 This thread was as amusing as a car wreck. And the post-event denial is as sad as a car wreck aftermath. Thank you, Ed Willes, for entertaining us with your three unsubstantiated, flawed and seemingly worthless tweets that someone decided to run with and massively blow out of proportion. I'M USING CAPITAL LETTERS NOW. LOOK AT ME! Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 No, it was impatience that kept things off the rafters. - trading away Neely, an act of impatience - trading away Linden, an act of impatience All of the big splashes that were made in the past via Burke, via Quinn, none of that got us the cup. The past 5 years we have had the best team we have ever had. We used patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 At least he hasn't had a response in a while, guess he finally realized it wasn't smart to spend those 18 pages saying only one option would have been acceptable, only to find out that option wouldn't have worked anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Line Juggler Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Willes vs Gillis Gillis won by a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 Willes vs Gillis Gillis won by a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexx Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 team1040 had kevin epp on this morning (agent for shea weber) and he said the canucks made an impressive bid and gillis did a fine job but Philadelphia was a better fit for them (read 110 million reasons). said weber was impressed with the new innovative steps gillis has taken with the organization to help players in all facets of life/hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Someone has already pointed out that trading Linden was maybe the best move that this franchise ever made. That Bertuzzi guy had a pretty good run here, and McCabe wasn't bad, either. Brian Burke did not make a big splash when he was our GM. He traded Bure, because he had to, and that trade (landing Jovo, specifically) played a big role in turning this franchise around. I don't blame him as much as I blame Gillis now, because Burke was operating in a non-cap environment, where the $CAD was worth $0.60 USD, and we could not compete with the likes of New York, Detroit, and Colorado. All lights have essentially been green since Gillis' arrival, and really his biggest score (Sundin) was landed within months of him taking the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 team1040 had kevin epp on this morning (agent for shea weber) and he said the canucks made an impressive bid and gillis did a fine job but Philadelphia was a better fit for them (read 110 million reasons). said weber was impressed with the new innovative steps gillis has taken with the organization to help players in all facets of life/hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 What don't I get? Nashville matched, and they now get to keep him. Good for them. Philly had a chance, just like NYR had a chance with Joe Sakic. And yes, I'm aware that in Mike Gillis' delusional world, he was expecting Shea Weber to risk tens of millions of dollars and only sign a 1-year offer sheet, to then become a UFA in 2013 and sign with the Canucks. Something tells me that if Mike was Shea's agent, he wouldn't have tried to sell him on the same idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 This thread was as amusing as a car wreck. And the post-event denial is as sad as a car wreck aftermath. Thank you, Ed Willes, for entertaining us with your three unsubstantiated, flawed and seemingly worthless tweets that someone decided to run with and massively blow out of proportion. I'M USING CAPITAL LETTERS NOW. LOOK AT ME! Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 What's your point? This place would've gone CRAZY with praise for Gillis had it have been him that signed Weber. And this whole time, you blind homers have been saying oh, well, we never really wanted him anyway, Alex Edler is just as good. And for all of the Ed Willes bashing, I'll still trust his takes infinitely more than yours. If Weber really did want to be here, and if ownership really wanted him here, and everyone had been targeting him for as long as Willes suggests, there are OTHER WAYS to bring him here. Trading is allowed in the NHL. Heck, Gillis thought nothing of giving up a king's ransom for Keith Ballard, why couldn't he have tried the same for Shea Weber? We don't know that he didn't, true, but we also don't know that he did. He may have just ASSUMED that Nashville isn't interested in trading him (even though they WERE trying to orchestrate a trade before Philly's offer sheet, per numerous reports). For all we know, the Preds could've been one of the teams that were very high on Cody Hodgson, and were SHOCKED when it was announced that he was traded to Buffalo. The fact that some of you are calling this a "success", for Mike Gillis, is utterly laughable. Success would've been landing Shea Weber, either through sign or trade. Success is not conserving your energy by not sending out an offer sheet out of a thought that it'd be matched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Line Juggler Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Applause for inaction. Only in Vancouver, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Line Juggler Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 What's your point? This place would've gone CRAZY with praise for Gillis had it have been him that signed Weber. And this whole time, you blind homers have been saying oh, well, we never really wanted him anyway, Alex Edler is just as good. And for all of the Ed Willes bashing, I'll still trust his takes infinitely more than yours. If Weber really did want to be here, and if ownership really wanted him here, and everyone had been targeting him for as long as Willes suggests, there are OTHER WAYS to bring him here. Trading is allowed in the NHL. Heck, Gillis thought nothing of giving up a king's ransom for Keith Ballard, why couldn't he have tried the same for Shea Weber? We don't know that he didn't, true, but we also don't know that he did. He may have just ASSUMED that Nashville isn't interested in trading him (even though they WERE trying to orchestrate a trade before Philly's offer sheet, per numerous reports). For all we know, the Preds could've been one of the teams that were very high on Cody Hodgson, and were SHOCKED when it was announced that he was traded to Buffalo. The fact that some of you are calling this a "success", for Mike Gillis, is utterly laughable. Success would've been landing Shea Weber, either through sign or trade. Success is not conserving your energy by not sending out an offer sheet out of a thought that it'd be matched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 A few things:1)Who cares if a bunch of cheerleaders would have gone crazy about signing Weber to an offer sheet? The intelligent posters would have countered with the opinion that Nashville was just going to match anyway. (and yes, by "intelligent", I mean the posters who have been arguing with you and BfPM this entire thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 What's your point? This place would've gone CRAZY with praise for Gillis had it have been him that signed Weber. And this whole time, you blind homers have been saying oh, well, we never really wanted him anyway, Alex Edler is just as good. And for all of the Ed Willes bashing, I'll still trust his takes infinitely more than yours. If Weber really did want to be here, and if ownership really wanted him here, and everyone had been targeting him for as long as Willes suggests, there are OTHER WAYS to bring him here. Trading is allowed in the NHL. Heck, Gillis thought nothing of giving up a king's ransom for Keith Ballard, why couldn't he have tried the same for Shea Weber? We don't know that he didn't, true, but we also don't know that he did. He may have just ASSUMED that Nashville isn't interested in trading him (even though they WERE trying to orchestrate a trade before Philly's offer sheet, per numerous reports). For all we know, the Preds could've been one of the teams that were very high on Cody Hodgson, and were SHOCKED when it was announced that he was traded to Buffalo. The fact that some of you are calling this a "success", for Mike Gillis, is utterly laughable. Success would've been landing Shea Weber, either through sign or trade. Success is not conserving your energy by not sending out an offer sheet out of a thought that it'd be matched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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