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Anyone else feel bad for Gillis?

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Not really on a few fronts, Joslin and Mullen aren't NHL calibre depth dmen which is what I think people were looking for. We also let a (arguably) top 4 dman in Salo go and the Garrison contract is a gamble given length/history.

Don't feel bad for the guy at all, it's been a pretty mediocre off-season but agreed some of the interweb folk complain unnecessarily.

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Mullen and Joslin are pretty pathetic to sign to NHL contracts, especially Mullen. The Garrison signing is a bit sketchy but you can't blame him for not signing Wever to a massive offersheet or getting an unrealistic return for Luongo (and his long ass contract). Overall, he has been average this offseason (nothing overly notable).

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Feel bad for Ken Holland and somewhat for Gillis

For Ken Holland

didnt get Suter, Garrison, Weber, or Carle

Gillis

Justin Schtulz and Weber (offer sheet)

Detriot top 4 seem much weaker with Lidstom and Stuart gone

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Not particularly, it's a business after all, you can't sign every free agent and Gillis is well, well aware of this. Much more so than any one of us fans does.

Also, I highly doubt he's bothered by anything people say about him on CDC. He's busy off doing his job, not scrolling through the Proposals and Armchair GMing forum for ideas.

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He hasn't made one mistake in my eyes. Yes the Hodgson deal pissed everyone off, but I still feel like Kassian will turn into a great player. Good move on getting Garrison, now we have a very solid D-core. Also in case anyone isn't aware of it, Gillis did try to get Weber, he sat down with him in Kelowna and Weber was really considering it, but he went for the money instead. Frankly I don't care, not signing Weber means we have a strong possibility of resigning our core. Philly on the other hand, will have to let some good players go next season if they end up signing him.

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We have not signed a depth d-man, Those two are career AHLers. Everyone likes the Garrison signing but we also lost Salo in the process. An improvement as he is younger and should be more healthy (knock on wood) but we wanted a large improvement as Edler looked aweful in the playoffs. People are sad about Weber because we all have dreams of have a top notch d-men who just happens to have been born an approximate hour drive away from my house. As for Luongo many people just want closure-we want this Luongo saga to end, although it isn't as bad as the Rick Nash drama or the Dwight Howard drama in the NBA. And people aren't expecting all the players you listed from Florida, we want a hockey trade, better than Luke Schenn but not the 10 1st round picks.

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Give him a break there's not much he can do I mean all the other 29 teams probably had thoughts about getting weber. It's not his fault

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although I ranted above, I do agree that I think Gillis and his crew seem to be among the nest managing team we have had-I say this beacuase I thought he did a very strong job the first two years here. I would have to say, the last two years have been a disappointment.

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Summer is far from over and training camp a long ways away .. relax, grasshoppers .. time will tell

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Why everyone thinks the real world is NHL12 is beyond me.

We landed Garrison.

What did DET, PIT, CHI, BOS get?

Holy hell, people are crazy.

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Give him a break there's not much he can do I mean all the other 29 teams probably had thoughts about getting weber. It's not his fault

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As long as he manages to get rid of Raymond I'm happy.

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You should not be.

He has Weber, at worst the 2knd best physical defenceman in the world, locked up for 14 years. He may not make a profit for 4 years, but will makle a killing long term. They will match!

And the new CBA will mean moving forward they wont be able to front load any contracts, so he can fill out his team comfortably!!!

I feel worse for David Poile.

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