cripplereh Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 LOL thats just not right you think luo will be waiver bait.He always starts slow then kicks it into high gear and ever team knows this.He is an elite goalie just getting older and wants out of here.As contacts are going his is decent and the only thing wrong is how long it is but he can retire before it ends!Just so happens we have a better goaltender that has taken the starting job away from Luo but that doesnt mean he is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Vancouver is an ELITE team because they have an ELITE goalie. Trading this ELITE goalie, I certainly expect ELITE talent back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suolucidir Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 He's been top 5 every season but last, pretty much. Depends on what stat you rank highest, and I'm sure you'll focus on the numbers that back your claim. Stats don't tell the whole story, but they tell a favorable one for Lu. The GM's are playing chicken right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes71 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 well i personally think Van can do allot better for a return on Lou than a risky 'elite' prospect. To me, being as he has not yet played 1 pro game, he is not elite until he does and then proves he is worthy of the title. I think Van should focus on getting more depth and skill in their defensive lines in return for Lou rather than more on the forward lines, the forward lines have the skill and depth already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 well i personally think Van can do allot better for a return on Lou than a risky 'elite' prospect. To me, being as he has not yet played 1 pro game, he is not elite until he does and then proves he is worthy of the title. I think Van should focus on getting more depth and skill in their defensive lines in return for Lou rather than more on the forward lines, the forward lines have the skill and depth already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHL Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 An aging ELITE 1C for an aging ELITE goalie. Otherwise, no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 He's been top 5 every season but last, pretty much. Depends on what stat you rank highest, and I'm sure you'll focus on the numbers that back your claim. Stats don't tell the whole story, but they tell a favorable one for Lu. The GM's are playing chicken right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBie604 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Top five in wins and shoot out losses So yes I guess you have a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo1970 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 MG is playing this right, in my opinion. His #1 concern is the team and it's future. With this in mind, there is no way he can allow himself to be low balled or bullied into accepting a deal that does not give us fair value in return. I believe, as does MG obviously, that Lou is an elite goalie. Yes he is getting older and his contract is big, but that's what elites in todays NHL are going to get. As of right now and for a few years to come, Lou is good enough to get any team to the playoffs on his own. Once there, it is up to the rest of the team to provide the appropriate support to succeed and that's up to the GM to provide but their problem won't be in goal. This being the case, I think Lou has more value than what's being offered and I feel the longer MG waits the more lucrative the offers are going to get. Every year there are goalies who were once great but struggle for a season or two. I would put Hiller, Reimer, Miller and Bryzgalov in this category. Other teams like Chicago, NYI, Florida and Colorado don't really have a clear #1 and, with struggles, may want a definate upgrade in net. My point is, that, as I stated earlier, patience is the key to us getting pieces we need and not just throw aways from another team. I understand the miscontent and impatience with the fans; It is somewhat anticlimactic to sit and wait for something big to happen, but the fact is MG must wait for the right conditions to get the deal he wants and I'm with him on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiangunner Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Something to ponder...If luongo was a UFA this summer what type of contract would he have gotten? I would say easily a 7 or 8 year deal with a 6M cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHL Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Something to ponder...If luongo was a UFA this summer what type of contract would he have gotten? I would say easily a 7 or 8 year deal with a 6M cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Something to ponder...If luongo was a UFA this summer what type of contract would he have gotten? I would say easily a 7 or 8 year deal with a 6M cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 MG is playing this right, in my opinion. His #1 concern is the team and it's future. With this in mind, there is no way he can allow himself to be low balled or bullied into accepting a deal that does not give us fair value in return. I believe, as does MG obviously, that Lou is an elite goalie. Yes he is getting older and his contract is big, but that's what elites in todays NHL are going to get. As of right now and for a few years to come, Lou is good enough to get any team to the playoffs on his own. Once there, it is up to the rest of the team to provide the appropriate support to succeed and that's up to the GM to provide but their problem won't be in goal. This being the case, I think Lou has more value than what's being offered and I feel the longer MG waits the more lucrative the offers are going to get. Every year there are goalies who were once great but struggle for a season or two. I would put Hiller, Reimer, Miller and Bryzgalov in this category. Other teams like Chicago, NYI, Florida and Colorado don't really have a clear #1 and, with struggles, may want a definate upgrade in net. My point is, that, as I stated earlier, patience is the key to us getting pieces we need and not just throw aways from another team. I understand the miscontent and impatience with the fans; It is somewhat anticlimactic to sit and wait for something big to happen, but the fact is MG must wait for the right conditions to get the deal he wants and I'm with him on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 What is wrong with people? The mods listened to the cries for two separate threads yet people still pollute the news thread with drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not A Fruit Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 All I am asking Gillis to do is to land Doan and Bjustad, if so then CDC will be happy :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHL Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 What is wrong with people? The mods listened to the cries for two separate threads yet people still pollute the news thread with drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHL Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 False. Firstly, I would like to know what the Luongo fans think the definition of "elite" is? According to the dictionary, that aint Luo, not anymore anyways. Secondly, Luongo is NOT good enough to carry a team into the playoffs on his own. He couldn't do it with Florida even once, he had a pre-meltdown in 2008 and we missed the playoffs. He arguably did it on his own in 2007 when he was in his prime. Thirdly, you mention that Luongo can do it all alone until the playoffs and then it's up to the rest of the team to "provide the appropriate support to succeed"? In many cases in his career that would include the team needing to score 5-9 goals per game, in the playoffs no less. Good luck with that. You basically summed up what I say about Luongo all the time, he can be great during the season but come the playoffs and the team needs to become a scoring machine. We are not going to get anyone fantastic in return for Luongo. Let's accept a 2nd rounder or a 1st if we are damn lucky, then enjoy the cap relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gally Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 What do you guys think of this trade: To Vancouver: Matthias Bjugstad To Florida: Luongo Schroeder (maybe a pick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklas Jensen Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 damn it, Lu straight up for Gudbranson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 damn it, Lu straight up for Gudbranson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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