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#1501 Sensemaker

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 06:29 PM

Either way, he ought to STFU. It's always been his problem. Bastard's gonna piss me off...

Still rooting for him to stay. But he's making it more difficult by every interview he gives...

Edited by Sensemaker, 04 September 2012 - 06:29 PM.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 06:53 PM

Either way, he ought to STFU. It's always been his problem. Bastard's gonna piss me off...

Still rooting for him to stay. But he's making it more difficult by every interview he gives...

Gee, hope he doesn;t upset YOU...that wouldn;t make any sense, now would it ???
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:08 PM

Gee, hope he doesn;t upset YOU...that wouldn;t make any sense, now would it ???


Hey I like you Smurf; you're a funny guy.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:43 PM

This latest interview proves that Luongo reads this thread. He wants us to keep it alive.

Edited by Noheart, 04 September 2012 - 07:44 PM.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:10 PM

This latest interview proves that Luongo reads this thread. He wants us to keep it alive.


Well, he'a exposing himself as a Florida Panther... That's disconcerting provided no deal has been made public.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:25 PM

elvis15 whats the deal with your pearl harbor picture?


This.


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:42 PM

Well, he'a exposing himself as a Florida Panther... That's disconcerting provided no deal has been made public.

In MHO...a deals done for Lou...and its just waiting for a signed CBA.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:45 PM

In MHO...a deals done for Lou...and its just waiting for a signed CBA.


Considering how blatant he is with his latest video interview, this might be true.

However, he has a record of being too honest in interviews sometimes...
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:59 PM

This.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1qcae9rdZc

If I could give you more than one up I would!! Classic! :lol:
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:04 PM

In MHO...a deals done for Lou...and its just waiting for a signed CBA.

I think this has been the case all along. Luongo, Ryan, and Bouwmeester have all been traded and Doan has signed, they're just waiting to announce it.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:01 PM

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The longer this drags on, the more I respect GMMG. I admire a patient GM, rather than trigger happy tradesters who get their teams junk in return. With every interview, Luongo keeps demonstrating he is not the team player he tries to make himself out to be. He is still under contract with the Canucks. Until he is traded, his loyalties should be with Vancouver, regardless of what the situation may look like.

"[The Panthers] makes sense for myself..." pathetic. Luongo has been paid MILLIONS of dollars by the Canucks, a team he is still with, and this is how he talks to the press? If he was a team player, he would be making no such comment.

My full support is behind Gillis. He can take all the way to the trade deadline, and I'd be happy. The Canucks don't have a problem - we have two star goalies. Luongo has a problem that he has to work out himself, and other teams have a problem of crappy goaltending. Let's roll with it until the right deal presents itself.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:14 PM

Is it just me or this not really anything different than he has said before?
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:54 PM

+1 Slegr... bang on.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 03:54 AM

This is a fair dinkum point; one I have tried to articulate but just never done as good a job.

Lou hit our team up and signed a $64 million dollar contract, with us copping the $10 mill front end load. I believe the opportunities and commitment shown Lou warrants more than pouting over having to compete for time, for someone to pump his tires, for whatever...

The longer this drags on, the more I respect GMMG. I admire a patient GM, rather than trigger happy tradesters who get their teams junk in return. With every interview, Luongo keeps demonstrating he is not the team player he tries to make himself out to be. He is still under contract with the Canucks. Until he is traded, his loyalties should be with Vancouver, regardless of what the situation may look like.

"[The Panthers] makes sense for myself..." pathetic. Luongo has been paid MILLIONS of dollars by the Canucks, a team he is still with, and this is how he talks to the press? If he was a team player, he would be making no such comment.

My full support is behind Gillis. He can take all the way to the trade deadline, and I'd be happy. The Canucks don't have a problem - we have two star goalies. Luongo has a problem that he has to work out himself, and other teams have a problem of crappy goaltending. Let's roll with it until the right deal presents itself.


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Posted 05 September 2012 - 03:59 AM

The longer this drags on, the more I respect GMMG. I admire a patient GM, rather than trigger happy tradesters who get their teams junk in return. With every interview, Luongo keeps demonstrating he is not the team player he tries to make himself out to be. He is still under contract with the Canucks. Until he is traded, his loyalties should be with Vancouver, regardless of what the situation may look like.

"[The Panthers] makes sense for myself..." pathetic. Luongo has been paid MILLIONS of dollars by the Canucks, a team he is still with, and this is how he talks to the press? If he was a team player, he would be making no such comment.

My full support is behind Gillis. He can take all the way to the trade deadline, and I'd be happy. The Canucks don't have a problem - we have two star goalies. Luongo has a problem that he has to work out himself, and other teams have a problem of crappy goaltending. Let's roll with it until the right deal presents itself.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 04:54 AM

The longer this drags on, the more I respect GMMG. I admire a patient GM, rather than trigger happy tradesters who get their teams junk in return. With every interview, Luongo keeps demonstrating he is not the team player he tries to make himself out to be. He is still under contract with the Canucks. Until he is traded, his loyalties should be with Vancouver, regardless of what the situation may look like.

"[The Panthers] makes sense for myself..." pathetic. Luongo has been paid MILLIONS of dollars by the Canucks, a team he is still with, and this is how he talks to the press? If he was a team player, he would be making no such comment.

My full support is behind Gillis. He can take all the way to the trade deadline, and I'd be happy. The Canucks don't have a problem - we have two star goalies. Luongo has a problem that he has to work out himself, and other teams have a problem of crappy goaltending. Let's roll with it until the right deal presents itself.


Just as I always suspected. Luongo is all about the benjamins, no wonder he is so up and down in the playoffs, paycheques end after game 82.
This idea of hanging on to him well into the season could really backfire. He doesn't want to be our starter and wont want to be our backup. So we have disgruntled Luongo sitting on the bench wasting cap space, pissed off that Gillis didn't take Florida's crappy offer for him, now what? Whenever Luongo does play he'll probably suck because he no longer cares about the Canucks, and let's face it, he's getting paid either way so he has nothing really to worry about. Now his value has dropped even lower than it is right now but on top of that he has successfully become a full-blown locker room cancer. Cory will most likely feel awkward having his friend sulking beneath him on the depth chart so his play could suffer due to that distraction. Meanwhile he'll probably get worn out from having to play 75 games and add that to not being happy about the Luongo situation, well that could make his stats balloon out so now the team will have to score a ton of goals just to win enough games to make the playoffs.
So we squeeze into the postseason, but Cory and the whole team are completely exhasted from their regular season ordeal and we get bounced out in the first round. Luongo laughs from the bench and finally gets traded to Florida in the offseason for one or two late round draft picks.
Granted this is a worst case scenario but it could play out this way. Bottom line, get Luongo out of town for whatever Florida is willing to give up before the season starts, whenever that may be.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 06:22 AM

So Luongo has no loyalty and is not a team player? The Canucks signed him to a 12 year deal and only two have been played and they have decided to move in a different direction and Luongo is the one who is not the team player? Other than saying that he wants to play in his hometown what has he done that goes against the Canucks? Seems to me like they have discarded him but the anger is on Roberto.

Anyone that has been to South Florida will understand why Luongo wants to go back. It's a beautiful place to live and work with the best weather anywhere.

I'm sick of people giving Gillis a pass on this one. He screwed up with the contract. He hasn't been able to move Luongo. There never really has been a market for him and that looks like it hasn't changed. The team is up against a cap that appears will go down or at the very least stay the same for three years. I'm not as impressed as some of you are. Luongo really does need to be moved for cap reasons whether any of us want to admit it or not.

And for those of you thinking Gillis should wait for the trade deadline, how many teams acquire players with nine plus years left on hefty contracts? ANd starting goaltenders? Big names that get moved at the deadline are pending UFAs on teams that are struggling to make the playoffs to teams that want a rental to put them over the top. Typically 33 year old goalies with 9 years and almost 40 million left are unattractive at the trade deadline.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 07:09 AM

See, this is how newspapers stir things up:

A reporter corners a player (in this case Luongo) and asks a leading question. Seeing as it's no secret that Louie's family is from South Florida and that he lives there in the off-season, the question is asked "What would you think about being traded to the Panthers". When the article is written, no mention of the leading question is made, making it appear that the answer was offered by the player without prompting.

Being honest, Luongo responds, "well I live here in the off-season, my kids were born here, etc., etc., so I suppose it makes sense...", and now the papers have a headline: Florida Luongo's First Choice

In the interview, Luongo does go on to say that "there are other options" and that he wouldn't rule anything else out, but because people generally skim articles and let the caption form the bulk of their opinion, we're left with yet another "Luongo only wants to play in Florida" mindset and we have people claiming that he is "disloyal" and "making things more difficult for Gillis".

The reality is, there is nothing new in this interview or article. It's just a case of the media being desperate for some hockey news, so they put a new spin on an old story.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 08:18 AM

See, this is how newspapers stir things up:

A reporter corners a player (in this case Luongo) and asks a leading question. Seeing as it's no secret that Louie's family is from South Florida and that he lives there in the off-season, the question is asked "What would you think about being traded to the Panthers". When the article is written, no mention of the leading question is made, making it appear that the answer was offered by the player without prompting.

Being honest, Luongo responds, "well I live here in the off-season, my kids were born here, etc., etc., so I suppose it makes sense...", and now the papers have a headline: Florida Luongo's First Choice

In the interview, Luongo does go on to say that "there are other options" and that he wouldn't rule anything else out, but because people generally skim articles and let the caption form the bulk of their opinion, we're left with yet another "Luongo only wants to play in Florida" mindset and we have people claiming that he is "disloyal" and "making things more difficult for Gillis".

The reality is, there is nothing new in this interview or article. It's just a case of the media being desperate for some hockey news, so they put a new spin on an old story.

Your more accurate with your read than the would be reporter. I suspect Lu has worked out in Florida ever since his move to Van and the fact he is doing it with Panther players is not unusual as the same goes in Van, especially with BlackHawks.

My concern would be talk of Lu going to Florida could weaken Van's return for him if a deal isn't in the can. Tallon might think he can offer less. I guess the potential upside is that other interested teams might feel they have to sweeten their offers to compete.

It all makes no difference as there is no season in all probability. To date the NHLPA has indicated they are prepared to reduce their take and the NHL has indicated a limited interest to 'adjust' their offer. The union cannot cave like last time or their union will collapse. The NHL has financial imperatives, such as the survival of about 10 franchises, which limits their flexibility. The union in typical socialist fashion suggested that they simply take more money from the richer clubs to subsidize the poorer ones. Typical but I suspect some owners are getting a little weary of this routine.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:17 AM

Either way, he ought to STFU. It's always been his problem. Bastard's gonna piss me off...

Still rooting for him to stay. But he's making it more difficult by every interview he gives...


He lives there off season, his wife's from there etc... He really didn't say anything EVERYONE didn't already know. I mean really, some kid in Africa who's never even heard of hockey was shown that quote and responded that he wasn't surprised as Lu's family is there... :P

Seriously, I think it's far less "damaging" than Canuck fans are making it out to be.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:18 AM

So Luongo has no loyalty and is not a team player? The Canucks signed him to a 12 year deal and only two have been played and they have decided to move in a different direction and Luongo is the one who is not the team player? Other than saying that he wants to play in his hometown what has he done that goes against the Canucks? Seems to me like they have discarded him but the anger is on Roberto.

Anyone that has been to South Florida will understand why Luongo wants to go back. It's a beautiful place to live and work with the best weather anywhere.

I'm sick of people giving Gillis a pass on this one. He screwed up with the contract. He hasn't been able to move Luongo. There never really has been a market for him and that looks like it hasn't changed. The team is up against a cap that appears will go down or at the very least stay the same for three years. I'm not as impressed as some of you are. Luongo really does need to be moved for cap reasons whether any of us want to admit it or not.

And for those of you thinking Gillis should wait for the trade deadline, how many teams acquire players with nine plus years left on hefty contracts? ANd starting goaltenders? Big names that get moved at the deadline are pending UFAs on teams that are struggling to make the playoffs to teams that want a rental to put them over the top. Typically 33 year old goalies with 9 years and almost 40 million left are unattractive at the trade deadline.



It was like 1 day after the season Lu came out and said it was time to move on. It took Cory to take over for 3 whole games and Lu wanted out. I think the team Lu has not has his heart in Van this past season and his and the teams performance reflected that.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:36 AM

This.

I get so many people messaging me, I put the link to that video as my status for anyone who views my profile. I even had someone with German background saying it was offensive and I should change it! I'd be more worried about being associated with the holocaust than with the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

He lives there off season, his wife's from there etc... He really didn't say anything EVERYONE didn't already know. I mean really, some kid in Africa who's never even heard of hockey was shown that quote and responded that he wasn't surprised as Lu's family is there... :P Seriously, I think it's far less "damaging" than Canuck fans are making it out to be.

^This.

It isn't anything that isn't common knowledge to everyone everywhere. That's where his (wife's) family is, that's where he lives and trains every summer, that's clearly an attractive destination for him from that perspective.

He also says he'd prefer to be a starter - wouldn't he find Florida less favourable in that respect since Markstrom is in the same position Schneider was 1-2 years ago?

He also said he's not shutting the door on other opportunities, so he hasn't forced Gillis' hand since that still leaves at least a number of options open.

Consider who trains here in the summer, Malhotra did even before we got him, Turris was doing so while holding out on the Coyotes, and Garrison has since he's from the area. Maybe we should think less of Garrison for saying Vancouver would be his first choice if he didn't get a deal done with Florida.

I won't, because it's a stupid idea, but it does point out how people are treating what Luongo said. It's refreshing to hear a player not just give a stock response, "We gave it 110%, you know, but couldn't get it done. So we're back to the drawing board and we'll do better next time."
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:08 AM

The longer this drags on, the more I respect GMMG. I admire a patient GM, rather than trigger happy tradesters who get their teams junk in return. With every interview, Luongo keeps demonstrating he is not the team player he tries to make himself out to be. He is still under contract with the Canucks. Until he is traded, his loyalties should be with Vancouver, regardless of what the situation may look like.

"[The Panthers] makes sense for myself..." pathetic. Luongo has been paid MILLIONS of dollars by the Canucks, a team he is still with, and this is how he talks to the press? If he was a team player, he would be making no such comment.

My full support is behind Gillis. He can take all the way to the trade deadline, and I'd be happy. The Canucks don't have a problem - we have two star goalies. Luongo has a problem that he has to work out himself, and other teams have a problem of crappy goaltending. Let's roll with it until the right deal presents itself.


Bang on Bro.

What Luongo says, to me, and to some of us, tells us he's a quitter.

Instead of trying to fight for his spot back, he indirecly demanded a trade. True quitter indeed. We don't need quitters on the Vancouver Canucks. He just wants to go to a team were he's a number 1 goalie. True, Luongo is still a number 1, and I think hes still a star, but he's a quitter. Ship him out Gillis.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:47 AM

Will he, won't he? Is there going to be a season?

So much to NOT look forward to.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 11:19 AM

Bang on Bro.

What Luongo says, to me, and to some of us, tells us he's a quitter.

Instead of trying to fight for his spot back, he indirecly demanded a trade. True quitter indeed. We don't need quitters on the Vancouver Canucks. He just wants to go to a team were he's a number 1 goalie. True, Luongo is still a number 1, and I think hes still a star, but he's a quitter. Ship him out Gillis.


Get it through your head, cory schneider will never win a cup, Luongo will. Eddie Lack will be our #1 goaltender in a year or two, I think he has more upside. LUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 11:22 AM

My full support is behind Gillis. He can take all the way to the trade deadline, and I'd be happy. The Canucks don't have a problem - we have two star goalies. Luongo has a problem that he has to work out himself, and other teams have a problem of crappy goaltending. Let's roll with it until the right deal presents itself.


Yeah, great idea. Let's have an alleged contender park $5.2M of scarce cap space on the bench to spite the guy who wants out after getting royally jerked around by this organization.

The Canucks don't have two star goalies - they have one 1st-year starter and one guy who now wants out. If you think all is rosy on the Vancouver Canucks, and it's raining gumdrops in their dressing room, you're a fool. And to say that this wouldn't be a problem for the team is just ridiculous. This would be the BIGGEST DISTRACTION EVER, far bigger than anything from when Bure held out. You really think the Canucks can go into the season paying Luongo $10M to sit on their bench? Can't happen.

Gillis needs to just wake up, accept the fact that he screwed this one up tremendously, that he's solely responsible for putting the team in this position, move Luongo to Florida, and move on. We're not going to win this trade. The end. Get it done before the cancer pervades the locker room.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 11:23 AM

Get it through your head, cory schneider will never win a cup, Luongo will. Eddie Lack will be our #1 goaltender in a year or two, I think he has more upside. LUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!

Get it through your head, cory schneider will never win a cup, Luongo will. Eddie Lack will be our #1 goaltender in a year or two, I think he has more upside. LUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 11:24 AM

See, this is how newspapers stir things up:

A reporter corners a player (in this case Luongo) and asks a leading question. Seeing as it's no secret that Louie's family is from South Florida and that he lives there in the off-season, the question is asked "What would you think about being traded to the Panthers". When the article is written, no mention of the leading question is made, making it appear that the answer was offered by the player without prompting.

Being honest, Luongo responds, "well I live here in the off-season, my kids were born here, etc., etc., so I suppose it makes sense...", and now the papers have a headline: Florida Luongo's First Choice

In the interview, Luongo does go on to say that "there are other options" and that he wouldn't rule anything else out, but because people generally skim articles and let the caption form the bulk of their opinion, we're left with yet another "Luongo only wants to play in Florida" mindset and we have people claiming that he is "disloyal" and "making things more difficult for Gillis".

The reality is, there is nothing new in this interview or article. It's just a case of the media being desperate for some hockey news, so they put a new spin on an old story.


BS.

Luongo could've ignored the reporter or answered with something far more politically correct, which he's gotten very good at doing over his time in Vancouver. These were rehearsed answers that were said as a way to motivate Gillis to stop messing around and to just make the deal. Luongo holds all the cards in this game. If he wants Florida, he's getting Florida.

Get to work, GM.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 11:26 AM

Get it through your head, cory schneider will never win a cup, Luongo will. Eddie Lack will be our #1 goaltender in a year or two, I think he has more upside. LUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!

You lost me at Lack will be our #1 in 1-2 years. lol :picard:
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 11:26 AM

I'm sick of people giving Gillis a pass on this one. He screwed up with the contract. He hasn't been able to move Luongo. There never really has been a market for him and that looks like it hasn't changed. The team is up against a cap that appears will go down or at the very least stay the same for three years. I'm not as impressed as some of you are. Luongo really does need to be moved for cap reasons whether any of us want to admit it or not.



To be fair the contract that Gillis gave Luongo was on par with most other contracts that were being thrown around to big name players at the time. Could he maybe have tried for a shorter term, say closer to 8 years? Sure...... but Gillis would have payed closer to market value for Luongo, arguably one of the top 5 goaltenders in the league at the time he signed, which would have been around a cap hit anywhere between 6 - 6.75 million. Instead, doing what he believed was best for the team, he signed Luongo to a much more reasonable cap hit of just over 5 million.

Maybe people seem to forget the revolving door of goalies that existed before Luongo, or that Cory Schneider was barely on the map when Luongo was signed. Nobody could have predicted Schneider outperforming Luongo, so getting security in net at the time was the right thing to do.

Lets also not forget that their is a pending LOCKOUT. Why would a team trade for Luongo right now if there is no season next year? A deal could already be agreed on in principal, so why throw Gillis under the bus right now? He is trying to get the best return possible for Lou, and therefor hasn't given away for the first crap offer that Florida throws his way and he gets ridiculed for it? Come on now..... KCCO boys.
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