Pears Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Can you provide the quotes then? I just tried some googling and here's what I got: From Sportsnet on June 1st (http://www.sportsnet...hockey_hearsay/) Gillis on The Team 1040, late July (http://fansspeakout....ead.php?tid=800) : Gillis to the National Post, June 20th (http://sports.nation...ir-goaltenders/) : and here's Gilman to the Toronto Sun, June 21st (http://www.torontosu...ngo-looms-large) : Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find any saying that Luongo was definitely going.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Checked your link. Nothing there other than that one Luongo quote. I'm looking for quotes from management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRR Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 You didn't read my post properly. I said players LIKE those 4 + the pick. We obviously can't get all of them for Schneider as they aren't all on the same team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 More sense making. Good stuff. Regarding the posters who argue that Luongo dug his own grave... I think L.A. was deemed unbeatable due to the constant turnovers and sudden counter rushes. So in comes Schneider in order to increase his value. Concerning Luongo: saying whatever helps the team when asked if he would waive his NTC might also include getting being replaced in favor of Schneider so as to showcase him and increase his value. Also, his comments from Las Vegas sounds like he really doesn't give a flying f**k about the media and their stance. Come game time, Schneider will be given ample games so as to make other GMs salivate at the mouth and therefore overpay in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensemaker Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Checked your link. Nothing there other than that one Luongo quote. I'm looking for quotes from management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensemaker Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Yeah, exactly, hahaha. What a ridiculous interpretation of the situation. At least GHL only went on and on about WHY we should keep Lu, not that management along with Luongo are just tricking everyone until BAM, Schneider is worth all of team Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 By the way... Check out Luongo's stats when playing for Team Canada. That's the Luongo you get when fans support him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Bwest Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 If he can only play well when he has "fan support" then he isnt an elite goalie.. and hes not someone you back your team with.. and only further proves that he needs to be traded.. your grasping at straws.. i know it sucks to have your favorite player traded away from your favorite team.. but this is getting kinda sad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 He was under scrutiny during the Olympics for questionable goals against, and shaky games. He was far from the reason we won gold. I am no Luongo hater, although I would prefer to keep Schneider, and I definitely don't subscribe to ridiculous fantasies about players being involved in tricking everyone in the hockey world in to thinking one goalie is getting traded just to maximize return for the other. That's just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 That's the Luongo you get when you put all of the best canadian players in front of him in a two week tournament against several questionable opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensemaker Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Not even Jesus could survive public scrutiny. Vancouver loves to crucify the line star. Fans do have a major impact on players; they are not made of stone. The pay scale is irrelevant unless you're the envious, jealous kind. I think the pro-Schneider fans will be plaisantly upset when Schneiser is traded for the "final package" that puts Vancouver over the top. I'm still waiting for that Gillis quote saying Luongo asked for a trade... Waiting... Waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensemaker Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 He was under scrutiny during the Olympics for questionable goals against, and shaky games. He was far from the reason we won gold. I am no Luongo hater, although I would prefer to keep Schneider, and I definitely don't subscribe to ridiculous fantasies about players being involved in tricking everyone in the hockey world in to thinking one goalie is getting traded just to maximize return for the other. That's just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Bo7 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Not even Jesus could survive public scrutiny. Vancouver loves to crucify the line star. Fans do have a major impact on players; they are not made of stone. The pay scale is irrelevant unless you're the envious, jealous kind. I think the pro-Schneider fans will be plaisantly upset when Schneiser is traded for the "final package" that puts Vancouver over the top. I'm still waiting for that Gillis quote saying Luongo asked for a trade... Waiting... Waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get real canuck fans Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 By the way... Check out Luongo's stats when playing for Team Canada. That's the Luongo you get when fans support him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Not even Jesus could survive public scrutiny. Vancouver loves to crucify the line star. Fans do have a major impact on players; they are not made of stone. The pay scale is irrelevant unless you're the envious, jealous kind. I think the pro-Schneider fans will be plaisantly upset when Schneiser is traded for the "final package" that puts Vancouver over the top. I'm still waiting for that Gillis quote saying Luongo asked for a trade... Waiting... Waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensemaker Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Many believe Luongo will be traded. Many believe Schneider will be traded. Many are neutral on the matter. So be it. Let's agree we disagree and that's it. Nonetheless, only a few know what is really happening. The rest can only speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Many believe Luongo will be traded. Many believe Schneider will be traded. Many are neutral on the matter. So be it. Let's agree we disagree and that's it. Nonetheless, only a few know what is really happening. The rest can only speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Not even Jesus could survive public scrutiny. Vancouver loves to crucify the line star. Fans do have a major impact on players; they are not made of stone. The pay scale is irrelevant unless you're the envious, jealous kind. I think the pro-Schneider fans will be plaisantly upset when Schneiser is traded for the "final package" that puts Vancouver over the top. I'm still waiting for that Gillis quote saying Luongo asked for a trade... Waiting... Waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensemaker Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 The simple fact is that Van cannot have that much CAP space tied up in two players. One will be dealt. I am in the Schneider camp going forward. For my tastes he is a better fundamental goaltender. However, as you suggested, Schneider might go instead. IMHO it is all about what comes back in such a deal vs what Lu might bring back. Management assessment of Lack comes to bear as well. If CS left then Lack moves into #2 on the depth chart. As a long term Canuck fan I am simply enjoying the options that MG has vs what the Canucks have been able to do historically. The org is actually developing some depth which allows quality deals to be made rather than desperation trades. I didn't like Lu's contract when it was signed but understood why MG did it. If Lu was ever to be moved for quality assets the time is now. It takes a long term contract off the books and makes the team younger. CS might be a bit of a gamble but all signs indicate he is more than capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Questionable? The Olympics is the best a given country can offer.... The Oilers and Jackets are "questionable" opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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