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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:49 PM

i dont know how to quote your quote, elvis, but that is an outstanding story about the hell chemistry question... that guy should quit his chemistry deal and get a job writing for the daily show with jon stewart. he's got the perfect mind for it


Reminds me of the Harvard essay story.

Question: Why?

Student: Why not?

Student received an "A".
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#2162 elvis15

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:22 PM

i dont know how to quote your quote, elvis, but that is an outstanding story about the hell chemistry question... that guy should quit his chemistry deal and get a job writing for the daily show with jon stewart. he's got the perfect mind for it

There are certainly variations on it (what university, girls name, even the end result being endothermic or exothermic depending on whether the guys sleeps with the girl or not) but it may well have been true. It's more of an urban legend now that anything else though.

But look, the thread is no longer bickering back and forth but rather a lot more fun. Now once we get some Luongo news we can get back on topic rather than poetry and jokes.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:53 PM

But look, the thread is no longer bickering back and forth but rather a lot more fun. Now once we get some Luongo news we can get back on topic rather than poetry and jokes.


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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:27 PM

A lot of people don't remember, but Schneider and Luongo were probably the best canucks for a lot of last season. When the offense died down after the midway point, Luongo and Schneider won us a lot of games.

Edited by Sergei Shirokov, 19 September 2012 - 09:27 PM.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:30 PM

A lot of people don't remember, but Schneider and Luongo were probably the best canucks for a lot of last season. When the offense died down after the midway point, Luongo and Schneider won us a lot of games.

I remember. And I still remember that epic 7 game streak Schneider went on earlier in the year.

I posted in another thread that if Kassian is ready for top six minutes, we could put him on the 2nd line, trade Raymond and keep both goalies. The latter part is unlikely though.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:02 PM

In theory could Edler Raymond and Luongo be packaged to a team to achieve a greater return than just luongo?
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:29 PM

In theory could Edler Raymond and Luongo be packaged to a team to achieve a greater return than just luongo?

Yes, and the question would be: Does it make us better?

With Luongo, we are presumably giving up our most expendable asset to improve in a different position. Raymond could easily be replace, so he is also expendable, but if Edler is included, then we are giving up a large piece of the D. Now the only way to get a deal done is to have that need addressed in the trade. I think the only way that Edler is in a package is if we are upgrading his position. If we are getting a star forward, then I find it hard to include Edler.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:33 PM

With lui and Edler I could see a top pick or prospect, top 4 d, depth Dman and top 9 forward . Basically 2 players for 4

For example doesn't this look appealing?

To van: Franson, Gunnarson, colborne, Kulemin
To toronto: luongo, Edler, Raymond or cond pick?

Edited by Here's Johnny, 20 September 2012 - 10:35 PM.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:45 PM

With lui and Edler I could see a top pick or prospect, top 4 d, depth Dman and top 9 forward . Basically 2 players for 4

For example doesn't this look appealing?

To van: Franson, Gunnarson, colborne, Kulemin
To toronto: luongo, Edler, Raymond or cond pick?


That's freaking disgusting. Slap yourself and hang yourself afterwards you were clearly inbred.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:50 PM

Why? That fills a lot of our holes???

That or if he ends up in Florida ( although I don't think tallon is interested ) is

Van: Edler, lui and Raymond
Fla: gudbranson, Matthias and bjugstad and a pick

Edited by Here's Johnny, 20 September 2012 - 10:59 PM.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:26 PM

Anyone who throws Edler into one of their proposals is retarded, the Canucks are not trading him
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:51 PM

That's freaking disgusting. Slap yourself and hang yourself afterwards you were clearly inbred.


dude chill out...



terrible proposal tho
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:57 PM

With lui and Edler I could see a top pick or prospect, top 4 d, depth Dman and top 9 forward . Basically 2 players for 4

For example doesn't this look appealing?

To van: Franson, Gunnarson, colborne, Kulemin
To toronto: luongo, Edler, Raymond or cond pick?

Take out Edler, Gunnarsson and Franson and Luongo could probably get that on his own. I think this would be more appealing

To Vancouver: Johan Franzen + 2013 1st

To Detroit: Alex Edler + Keith Ballard

Edler gives Detroit that 'Lidstrom replacement', and Ballard solidifys their D core

Edler - Kronwall
Ballard - Ericsson
Quincey - Smith

then

To Vancouver: Brent Seabrook

To Chicago: Roberto Luongo + Mason Raymond + 2013 2nd


Sedin - Sedin - Franzen (this would be an epic line in the playoffs)
Burrows - Kesler - Booth
Higgins - Lapierre - Kassian
Volpatti - Malhotra - Hansen

Hamhuis - Seabrook
Bieksa - Garrison
Connauton - Tanev

Schneider
Lack
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 12:37 AM

Take Seabrook off Chicago and they become too small; one of our recent D problems.

Seabrook will not be traded by Chicago unless they recover another big D. Exactly why we need someone like him back if we give up Edler. I like that you are attending to our needs; but the deal will not go down for that reason!

Take out Edler, Gunnarsson and Franson and Luongo could probably get that on his own. I think this would be more appealing

To Vancouver: Johan Franzen + 2013 1st

To Detroit: Alex Edler + Keith Ballard

Edler gives Detroit that 'Lidstrom replacement', and Ballard solidifys their D core

Edler - Kronwall
Ballard - Ericsson
Quincey - Smith

then

To Vancouver: Brent Seabrook

To Chicago: Roberto Luongo + Mason Raymond + 2013 2nd


Sedin - Sedin - Franzen (this would be an epic line in the playoffs)
Burrows - Kesler - Booth
Higgins - Lapierre - Kassian
Volpatti - Malhotra - Hansen

Hamhuis - Seabrook
Bieksa - Garrison
Connauton - Tanev

Schneider
Lack


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Posted 21 September 2012 - 01:04 AM

Franzen is interesting, although he has a lifetime contract as well - 8 more years at 4 million cap hit. (expires when he is 40, salary starts dipping at 37/8)... Wouldn't give up Edler for him though, and wouldn't want to see Edler in Detroit. Let the hole in the blueline remain, or fill it with a Leaf.

To Van - Franzen
To Toronto - Luongo
To Detroit - too bad the Leafs blueline is so pathetic...can't see Holland finding what he wants there. :lol:

Edited by oldnews, 21 September 2012 - 01:22 AM.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 06:59 AM

With lui and Edler I could see a top pick or prospect, top 4 d, depth Dman and top 9 forward . Basically 2 players for 4

For example doesn't this look appealing?

To van: Franson, Gunnarson, colborne, Kulemin
To toronto: luongo, Edler, Raymond or cond pick?

Yeah man. That's filth.

Take out Edler, Gunnarsson and Franson and Luongo could probably get that on his own. I think this would be more appealing

To Vancouver: Johan Franzen + 2013 1st

To Detroit: Alex Edler + Keith Ballard

Edler gives Detroit that 'Lidstrom replacement', and Ballard solidifys their D core

Edler - Kronwall
Ballard - Ericsson
Quincey - Smith

then

To Vancouver: Brent Seabrook

To Chicago: Roberto Luongo + Mason Raymond + 2013 2nd


Sedin - Sedin - Franzen (this would be an epic line in the playoffs)
Burrows - Kesler - Booth
Higgins - Lapierre - Kassian
Volpatti - Malhotra - Hansen

Hamhuis - Seabrook
Bieksa - Garrison
Connauton - Tanev

Schneider
Lack

That was a fun proposal. I like that it was somewhat realistic.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:19 AM

Never trade Edler??? Should of said that about Hodgson
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:36 AM

Why? That fills a lot of our holes???

That or if he ends up in Florida ( although I don't think tallon is interested ) is

Van: Edler, lui and Raymond
Fla: gudbranson, Matthias and bjugstad and a pick


your second try was better, but then you had to go say this...


Never trade Edler??? Should of said that about Hodgson


which suggests you missed a whole lotta context.

Edited by oldnews, 21 September 2012 - 12:05 PM.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:10 AM

Never trade Edler??? Should of said that about Hodgson


Should HAVE said that about Hodgson. That has got to be one of my biggest pet peeves.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:49 AM

Never trade Edler??? Should of said that about Hodgson


LOL Edler would erase Cody from games.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 05:51 PM

Tweets from Botch today:

@taj1944 @samjam99 thanks for clarifying, and for the record I have TO, chi and a mystery team who arrived late to the party

@botchford who is this mystery team? San Jose? Anahiem? Edmonton? Am I close?

@CanuckleSmith can't say I'm 100% sure but one of those would be a good guess

Says right now, TO/Chi/Mystery are the teams involved. Wonder who mystery team is?

Other read: http://www.bergerbyt...ent-with-leafs/

TORONTO (Sep. 20) – For Brian Burke, the summer of 2012 has been all about tempering expectation. The Maple Leafs’ general manager made a couple of modest additions and suggested – rather strongly – that no further altering will be done.

That isn’t so, according to an Eastern Conference rival.
“From my standpoint, Brian is poised to make at least one prime acquisition… possibly two,” said the fellow executive. “I think – like many of us – he is waiting to see the lay of the land once a new Collective Bargaining Agreement is in place. He’s been very involved in trying to improve his goaltending and I can tell you that he’s determined to add a big player up front. I’ll be quite surprised, as will many of my colleagues, if he goes into the next hockey season without a significant upgrade.”


Edited by RunningWild, 21 September 2012 - 05:53 PM.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 05:55 PM

Tweets from Botch today:

@taj1944 @samjam99 thanks for clarifying, and for the record I have TO, chi and a mystery team who arrived late to the party

@botchford who is this mystery team? San Jose? Anahiem? Edmonton? Am I close?

@CanuckleSmith can't say I'm 100% sure but one of those would be a good guess

Says right now, TO/Chi/Mystery are the teams involved.

Wonder who mystery team is?

All along I've been saying Washington could be the dark horse/mystery team to land Luongo. Plus Washington I think has better pieces than Chicago and Toronto.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 05:56 PM

Tweets from Botch today:

@taj1944 @samjam99 thanks for clarifying, and for the record I have TO, chi and a mystery team who arrived late to the party

@botchford who is this mystery team? San Jose? Anahiem? Edmonton? Am I close?

@CanuckleSmith can't say I'm 100% sure but one of those would be a good guess

Says right now, TO/Chi/Mystery are the teams involved.

Wonder who mystery team is?

Double post :(

Edited by Steven Stamkos' Mullet, 21 September 2012 - 05:56 PM.

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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 05:57 PM

Botch is making fun of Samjam there.

This isn't news.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 06:02 PM

Botch is making fun of Samjam there.

This isn't news.


He was responding to a samjam tweet that said Botch was specifically talking about Tor. Botch was saying it's not specifically Tor.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 06:06 PM

Should HAVE said that about Hodgson. That has got to be one of my biggest pet peeves.


How 'bout should've then? That's easier than both of them.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 06:06 PM

Never trade Edler??? Should of said that about Hodgson


lol @ comparing hodgson to edler
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 06:08 PM

Haha samjam and Botchford speculating! I'll be holding my breath...
Has Botchford finally been revealed as samjam's secret source? :lol:

Also, trying to predict a Burke move is like counting the blades of grass in your lawn.
I remember his tenure in Vancouver. Yes he needs a goaltender, but there is scarcely anyone as reticent to make moves.
Maybe he'll surprise us.
What eastern rival backtalks like that?
Adding another player up front doesn't make much sense with that blueline behind them.
Meh.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 07:00 PM

Alright gents, now it's time to start the Washington trade rumours... GO

Van
Johansson, Neuvirth

Was
Luongo, Raymond
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 07:06 PM

Alright gents, now it's time to start the Washington trade rumours... GO

Van
Johansson, Neuvirth

Was
Luongo, Raymond

That's waaaay not enough. What about

To Vancouver: Troy Brouwer + 2013 1st

To Washington: Roberto Luongo

That's a little more fair.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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