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#1 Peaches

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:14 PM

To VAN:

Quinton Howden
Kris Versteeg
Scott Clemmensen


To FLA:

Roberto Luongo
Mason Raymond



Vancouver gets a good prospect, a top 6 forward and a solid backup for Schneids


Florida gets a top 5 goalie and a speedy winger


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#2 Tangerines

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:17 PM

Sure, lets get er done.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:24 PM

Eh, not a big fan of Versteeg coming here.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:31 PM

how about Luongo + Raymond for Stephen Weiss, Theodore and a 2nd round pick? That would give us a very good second line of Booth-Weiss-Kesler and a proven NHL goalie to back up Schneids.

I don't think FLA is giving up any of its good prospects like Howden, Bjugstad, Huberdeau or Gudbranson like some are suggesting.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:31 PM

Remove Clemmensen, add Wesley Myron, and i'd do it.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:33 PM

I'd rather have Luongo. If we aren't getting a fair return for a top-5 NHL goalie, there is less harm in tying up 9 million on goalies with an increase in the cap if we guarantee solid goaltending throughout the season/playoffs.

Timing is key with this trade. If a team in need of a bona fide #1 is in a big slide to start the year, willingness to do something dramatically changes.
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:38 PM

I'd rather have Luongo. If we aren't getting a fair return for a top-5 NHL goalie, there is less harm in tying up 9 million on goalies with an increase in the cap if we guarantee solid goaltending throughout the season/playoffs.

Timing is key with this trade. If a team in need of a bona fide #1 is in a big slide to start the year, willingness to do something dramatically changes.


^^^^^THIS^^^^ Exactly! Why not go into the season with both goalies and whenever a team is doing poorly or declining due to goalie reason (which will bound to happen), that's the moment to trade Luongo and we're guaranteed to get a decent. That goes with saying that if MG gets the right deal/ deal he is looking for Luongo before the season starts, them I'm for it.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:45 PM

^^^^^THIS^^^^ Exactly! Why not go into the season with both goalies and whenever a team is doing poorly or declining due to goalie reason (which will bound to happen), that's the moment to trade Luongo and we're guaranteed to get a decent. That goes with saying that if MG gets the right deal/ deal he is looking for Luongo before the season starts, them I'm for it.


Because to bring Luongo back onto this team after everything that has happened is guaranteed to result in only 1 thing: A field day by the media and an absolute gong show of epic proportion. After everything that has been said (by Luongo), for Gillis to bring him back would be nothing but detrimental to the TEAM.

Luongo has shown his colors, and they are not Blue Green and White. Luongo should have kept his mouth shut, if he wanted off the team he should have said so to management and not run his mouth off to the media (twice).

Also, why couldn't this be in any one of the bazillion Luongo trade proposal threads? Are people really so lazy that they can't read through pages of regurgitation and instead feel the need to up the OP count on this forum?

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:46 PM

Bjugstad instead of Howden and I'd take it.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:49 PM

^^^^^THIS^^^^ Exactly! Why not go into the season with both goalies and whenever a team is doing poorly or declining due to goalie reason (which will bound to happen), that's the moment to trade Luongo and we're guaranteed to get a decent. That goes with saying that if MG gets the right deal/ deal he is looking for Luongo before the season starts, them I'm for it.


As sad as it would make me, 'cause I am a Lui fan and think he's the best goalie we've ever had, I think it's crucial to trade him before the season starts. If you have both goalies at the start of the season, the media is going to create an absolute circus in that locker room. Everyone knows Lui doesn't want to be here and every player will be asked about Luongo everyday. There would be so much speculation about whether Lu is happy or not, is he getting along with everyone or not. All the distractions would be detrimental to the team and could derail our season.

I think it would especially harm Schneider who would be asked more Lu questions then anyone and that might hinder Corey's success aswell. Like Luongo said, it's time to move on

Edited by Super_Canuck, 22 July 2012 - 10:50 PM.


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:55 PM

Bjugstad instead of Howden and I'd take it.

Bjugstad alone is worth more than Luongo + Raymond...

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:02 PM

Good proposal its realistic but this deal would depend on who florida wants to give up theodore or clemmenson because one would likely be needed in the trade unless we sign a ufa or let lack come up or could trade one of the 2 to toronto or chicago etc.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:28 PM

Bjugstad alone is worth more than Luongo + Raymond...

No my good sir, Wesley Myron is worth more than Luongo + Raymond.














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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:36 PM

I don't think Versteeg is the answer for our scoring woes. I'd prefer to not get him.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 12:42 AM

Remove Howden and Versteeg and replace with Weiss and Skille (For 4th line grit) Possibly a 2nd rd'er as well.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 06:45 PM

Not bad but i think we could get a bit more than that for lui
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:51 AM

how about Luongo + Raymond for Stephen Weiss, Theodore and a 2nd round pick? That would give us a very good second line of Booth-Weiss-Kesler and a proven NHL goalie to back up Schneids.

I don't think FLA is giving up any of its good prospects like Howden, Bjugstad, Huberdeau or Gudbranson like some are suggesting.


Don't think Florida would give up their franchise leader in games, assists and points.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:09 PM

florida wont move any of their top prospects for luongo. lets face facts, we ARE going to get screwed in any luongo trade, lets just hope we dont get screwed as bad as columbus did.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:11 PM

Don't think Florida would give up their franchise leader in games, assists and points.

Especially for an aging declining goalie who is signed for 10 more years.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:11 PM

Bjugstad alone is worth more than Luongo + Raymond...


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:27 PM

Nobody is buying into your troll.

Yeah, except Raymond has no value, and most Florida fans wouldn't trade Bjugstad for Luongo

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 05:31 PM

What about Luongo, Ballard for Campbell, Markstrom?

The Canucks get rid of two big contracts and get one in return. Campbell was Garrison's partner last year and played great together. Markstrom backs up Schneider and has potential to be a great goalie a few years down the road so we can groom to trade.




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