DeNiro Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Does anyone know if the offer came with a NTC? I don't see how a player could sign that offer otherwise. Sure he could get his money, but Nashville could much and trade him to Columbus next offseason for all he knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Completely. the cap hit would've been $14M. Total AAV... so $14M paid.... for one year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeMinisterBure Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 MG didn't have the guts to offer him a long contract. It's not that he didn't want to sign here, it's that our management didn't want to give him a long-term contract that he deserved. MG can try and twist it and say how Weber didn't really want to play here, but he thinks these players should bend over backwards to play here. Sure, it would be nice to get Weber on a tiny discount, but he is the type of player that you throw all of the money at and get rid of underused by AV ballard/ falling raymond/injured manny. That's close to 9 mill right there and then we are still going to get rid of Lu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Wait can't the bonus also be divided by years under contract. For instance if Weber did sign a $6M but got a $6M bonus the caphit would only be $7M per year as the bonus would be divided by 6 years equaling $1M additional on the cap. Obviously irrelevent for Weber since it would have been 1 year thus equaling a caphit of $14M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Completely. the cap hit would've been $14M. Total AAV... so $14M paid.... for one year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure fan Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Here's my idea. Next top free agent that Canucks want they should do a top secret signing. Let's say Weber is a UFA. Canucks offer a 5 year 5 million dollar contract. 1 million each year. This is how it will go down to unsuspecting fellow GM's. Then the city of Vancouver like it or not develops a new 'Weber tax' . We all pay an extra 150$ on our taxes even if your not a fan, and if you dont like it, you can getttttt out!!! Weber gets his money ...We get our cup. It's a fool proof plan! Let's do it guys! Who's with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Are you sure about that? when I look at ehrhoff's contract on capgeek http://capgeek.com/p...play.php?id=121 it shows a caphit of 4 mill even though he had a 8 mill signing bonus. I think that's the whole point of those massive signing bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Here's my idea. Next top free agent that Canucks want they should do a top secret signing. Let's say Weber is still a RFA. Canucks offer a 5 year 5 million dollar contract. 1 million each year. This is how it will go down to unsuspecting fellow GM's. Then the city of Vancouver like it or not develops a new 'Weber tax' . We all pay an extra 150$ on our taxes even if your not a fan, and if you dont like it, you can getttttt out!!! Weber gets his money ...We get our cup. It's a fool proof plan! Let's do it guys! Who's with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 There's no way they could have bee serious about that offer. How could we fit a 14 million dollar cap hit? But then he was certain they would match so I guess his plan was for him to never actually end up here this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure fan Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Weber clearly isn't.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I guess we'll have to acquire him later on in his career with a Pronger type deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opmac Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Does anyone know if the offer came with a NTC? I don't see how a player could sign that offer otherwise. Sure he could get his money, but Nashville could much and trade him to Columbus next offseason for all he knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I hope Nashville matches just so Shea Weber has to play there for the rest of his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 That would not have been a fit cap-wise, and even if it was one year would've been likely matched. Besides that, it's also an astronomical amount spent on the blue line for potentially one quality season at the expense of four 1st round picks and the potential of him getting signed for nothing the season after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I hope Nashville matches just so Shea Weber has to play there for the rest of his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 this is tragic.If true I completely back Gilly.Would have been a very smart play and put Nashville in a hole. God damn CBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bieksallent_Canuck Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 anyone know if Weber would have been eligible to sign a long-term extension immediately after the offer sheet not being matched? i.e. he signs the one year deal and its not matched, and then the canucks give him a long term extension (10 years x$7 mil) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 anyone know if Weber would have been eligible to sign a long-term extension immediately after the offer sheet not being matched? i.e. he signs the one year deal and its not matched, and then the canucks give him a long term extension (10 years x$7 mil) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 You guys need to get it through your head. Even if you throw money at the player it doesn't mean they'll want to sign with us. You know why we didn't get Suter, Parise, Weber and maybe Doan. Because maybe they don't want to play here.. You can't simply sign all the free agents.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Gillis said he didn't attempt to sign Suter or Parise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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