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#181 hudson bay rules

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:26 PM

He can ask for a trade all he wants. Preds don't have to do what Weber wants. After paying $27 million for 1 year worth of service no way the Preds trade him.


The thing is that once they pay him the signing bonuses his contract is easier to swallow and therefore the Preds can demand more for him in a trade.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:33 PM

Wasn't expecting them to match. Maybe they did it to show their fans they are committed to being a contender so now it's up to Weber if he still wants out.

If it's true he wants a NTC he will probably be sticking around Nashville for awhile.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:50 PM

Thanks a lot Philly... -_- I hope you never win the Stanley Cup for the next 10 years...


Nah Weber wanted the money more because of the uncertainty of the CBA or else he could have just waited till next year to be a free agent.

He can still be traded if the team struggles and finds it difficult adjusting without Suter but now it will be for a steeper price.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:10 PM

to FLA: Luongo, Raymond

to VAN: Weber, Fla prospect, Fla 3rd

to NASH: Van 1st 2013, Van 1st 2014, Fla 1st 2013, Tanev, Schroeder

Think that would work?
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:25 PM

My buddy in Nashville is a season ticket holder and the owners send them all a letter exclaiming the Shea offer match and wanting to win long term and showing off the fact they are a team that will pay the price and compete.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:38 PM

Because you need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that Nashville will match the Flyers' offer right? :rolleyes:


Yeah and New York was totally an underdog in the race for Nash...I mean, they weren't trying to trade for him for the past half a year or anything...
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:52 PM

Good job Weber. You ruined your own career. If he had only waited one more year...

Feel for him? Absolutely not. It was his own dumb mistake to sign that contract to begin with.


Why is it a dumb mistake to sign a contract that would guarantee you $110 million. Obviously he did it for the money. He may have not been able to get that kind of money with the new CBA coming in next year and realized that this may be his last chance to go for the BIG cash grab.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:52 PM

to FLA: Luongo, Raymond

to VAN: Weber, Fla prospect, Fla 3rd

to NASH: Van 1st 2013, Van 1st 2014, Fla 1st 2013, Tanev, Schroeder

Think that would work?

Thow in 2 van firsts and take out the fla first. Then you have two separate trades tho.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:27 PM

That's a lie. There was a good possibility that he was going to become a UFA and they would have had their chance than. Also the two teams were in trade talks, now Weber can't be traded for another year. Get real.


Nonsense.

First, Philly would have had to contend with other teams trying to scoop Weber's services before the next trade deadline.

Second, if Weber was still on NSH after the deadline, those same teams, and probably more, would have been in on the UFA bidding next year when, of course, there's nothing going back the other way from their teams.

By their offer sheet, Philly narrowed the field from a potential 30 (realistically, more like 10-15) teams, to 2: them and NSH.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:34 PM

WOAH Nahville got wealthy somehow. I have to laugh though, a deal like that would clearly imply Weber was trying to get away from Nashville. So the highest paid player is now on one of the lowest revenue teams...


Incorrect. If you were Weber why would you accept an offer sheet if you knew Nashville would likely match it. I'm pretty sure he liked the deal and wasn't entirely ready to leave (although willing to leave if necessary).

I'm just glad we can move on and not hear as many unrealistic Weber proposals.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:50 PM

Unbelievable!! Just rebuild already, they could have just shopped the 4 first round picks for better players, or kept them and pulled a Pittsburg or Edmonton and build through the draft.

I feel bad for Weber too, he obviously wanted out, now he's stuck for atleast another year if not more. He can always demand a trade but who would take that contract?


I think if he really wanted out he would have signed the Canucks 1 year deal and left the next year as a free agent

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 09:09 PM

Predictable. Of course Nashville matched.
Looks like those people whining that Gillis didn't make an effort were pretty off base. Weber was destined to stay in Nashville and the Preds held and still hold the cards. Sounds like Gillis' strategy was probably the best - but still would only have forced Nashville's hand by making Weber a UFA next year - and was undermined by Weber's urge to sign a contract before the new CBA - on top of that, it could have cost 4 firsts for one year of Weber if Nashville didn't match, took the picks, and Weber decided to sign elsewhere after a year as a UFA. All in all, an offer sheet was not going to work. Gillis was right.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 09:36 PM

I'm just glad we can move on and not hear as many unrealistic Weber proposals.

During and after this season, there will be speculation about Weber's desire to leave nashville.
He doesn't have a no trade, no move clause.
This will obviously spur much speculation about potential trades.
The trade speculation will now increase exponentially.

I'll start: Jensen, Lack, Tanev, first rounder for Weber
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 09:45 PM

This situation in Nashville could get ugly really quick. Poile will probably give him the NTC to keep him happy. He's the face of their franchise.


After what Poile was put through? No way!!!
The Preds don't need to suck up to him anymore. They owe him nothing!

If a too good of a deal comes back sometime after this mandatory no trade year ends, Weber can and most likely will be traded (Philly will definitely not be on that list!).


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 09:48 PM

good for them.... i still kinda feel bad for Nashville though! nobody wants to stay there!
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 10:47 PM

good for them.... i still kinda feel bad for Nashville though! nobody wants to stay there!

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:23 PM

Shea is Probably just sittin somehwere Sighing over and over.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:37 AM

good for the preds
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:34 AM

Predictable. Of course Nashville matched.
Looks like those people whining that Gillis didn't make an effort were pretty off base. Weber was destined to stay in Nashville and the Preds held and still hold the cards. Sounds like Gillis' strategy was probably the best - but still would only have forced

Nashville's hand by making Weber a UFA next year - and was undermined by Weber's urge to sign a contract before the new CBA - on top of that, it could have cost 4 firsts for one year of Weber if Nashville didn't match, took the picks, and Weber decided to sign elsewhere after a year as a UFA. All in all, an offer sheet was not going to work. Gillis was right.

Now that we know that Shea is all about the money even Philly is probably giving up a sigh of relief to dodge that bullet. Shea can spend the next 14 years in Nashville.

How does this go down come October? Shea is on his throne in the dressing room with attendants strapping on his gear. The young guy up from the AHL making $600,000 comes in and starts to dress. Shea wanting to be a team guy says heh kid, 'I feel for you working for minimum wage'. 'How's about I throw an extra $50,000 grand a year at you if you park my Porche for the season'?
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:37 AM

Shea will spend the next year in Nashville and if they get booted out of the first round or worse he will quietly ask for a trade.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 08:31 AM

Thank goodness they matched, I did not want to see Philly strong arm Nashville out of Weber. A big big reason for it was probably the Predators trying to say "you can't bully us out of our franchise player with money"

Would have been a ridiculous thing to happen. Philly purposely front loaded the contract with huge bonuses knowing Nashville is a small market team.

Glad to see they didn't cave.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 08:32 AM

We'll see how this plays out, but if I am Nashville, there is no way I change the contract now by adding a NMC/NTC. Weber can serve his mandatory year, then the door is open to moving him wherever it is most beneficial for the team, which could mean going somewhere he really doesn't want to go. That's the way the game is played.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 09:16 AM

I agree. I hope they don't add the NTC. If he wanted one, it should have been in the offer sheet he signed.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 09:18 AM

Unbelievable!! Just rebuild already, they could have just shopped the 4 first round picks for better players, or kept them and pulled a Pittsburg or Edmonton and build through the draft.

I feel bad for Weber too, he obviously wanted out, now he's stuck for atleast another year if not more. He can always demand a trade but who would take that contract?


Shopped four high firsts for better players? Pittsburgh and Edmonton, wtf are you talking about? None of these picks were likely to be First Overall, especially with Weber on the team.

Clearly Weber did NOT want out, or he would not have signed this deal. Weber wanted MONEY and he gets it.

It's not a report when you link the Nashville Predators website.


Why not??
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 09:58 AM

to FLA: Luongo, Raymond

to VAN: Weber, Fla prospect, Fla 3rd

to NASH: Van 1st 2013, Van 1st 2014, Fla 1st 2013, Tanev, Schroeder

Think that would work?


Why would Nashville take that trade? They don't want picks and prospects for Weber.
Why would we take the Florida trade? Luongo and Raymond for picks and prospects? Sure we flip some of them for Weber, but see above for why that's a terrible idea. I honestly think that three first rounders and two solid prospects are an overpayment for Weber too.. kind of selling our future for him, never a good plan.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:04 AM

http://flyers.nhl.co...&cmpid=rss-News

Flyers GM Paul Holmgren spoke to the media via a conference call on Wednesday morning. Below is the transcript from the call.

Philadelphia Flyers General Manager Paul Holmgren:

Q: Because of the way the offer sheet to Shea Weber was front-loaded, did you expect Nashville to match it?


"No, it was structured where we were hopeful that they wouldn't match it. But, obviously they did and as I said yesterday we wish Shea and the Predators all the best. We tried to add, in our minds, one of the best defenseman in the game to a good, young, up-and-coming team, and it didn't work."

Q: When did you learn that [The Predators] were going to match [the offer sheet], and how much of a disappointment did it come as?

"I learned at about 3:15 yesterday afternoon, and the initial reaction was disappointment, but I guess we move on. The chance of them matching was always there however hopeful we were of them not, it was always there, and they did. Now we move forward and see what we can do. We like our team; we think it's a good, up-and-coming young team, and we will continue to try and add to it and make it better, which is what we tried to do with the offer sheet. We'll move forward."

Q: I guess any other moves, be it on defense or forward would involve a trade. Are you of the mindset that any significant trade is in the picture for you guys right now?

"No, I don't necessarily agree with what you said. There are still players out there that require a trade. It's July 25th today, there's still plenty of time before we can plan and rule out anything right now. As I said earlier, we really like our team, we certainly don't want to make any drastic changes, but we are going to continue to look at ways to get better. The object is to have the best team going into training camp and that's what we're going to do. We'll see what happens."

Q: You guys seemed to send the signal that you were trying to upgrade your defense, at least on the physical end, but as far as filling a pretty big hole on Claude Giroux's wing, is that still something you might be looking at also?

"Looking at my board I don't know that I see the hole that you see. We're obviously trying to get Jakub [Voracek] signed, and it's only a matter of time. We envision Jake playing with Claude [Giroux] next year so, that's the way we look at it, so I don't see that as a big hole. Getting back to our defense, I really like our defense. What we did over the last little while here was try to add one of the best players in the game to our team.

Q: Who was a defenseman?

"Yes. But that doesn't mean we don't like our defense moving forward. As I said, we have a good up-and-coming young team, and we're trying to add to it without subtracting and we'll continue to try and do that with the mindset that we'll do what we think is necessary to make our team as good as it can be."

Q: RFA offers are unusual of course. Would you say this is a one shot thing because of the caliber of Shea Weber or would you explore other RFA's out there?

"There's obviously players that are still left that are restricted, and Jake Voracek is one of them. Does that mean some team is thinking about doing an offer sheet on Jake? I have no idea. We took a shot at Shea Weber because he's Shea Weber. I don't think there are any Shea Weber's out there that are left in that category. So I guess to answer your question, I don't see that as being an option certainly this year."

Q: How important was it to protect guys like [Sean] Couturier and [Brayden] Schenn?

"We believe we have a good, young team that is only going to continue to get better. What we are trying to do is add to it without trying to take anything away. Anything we have done this summer has been just that. A caveat to that is we will look and see what we can do to make our team better, but our mind set is 'We like our team'. So, we are not looking to make big changes, we are looking to add without subtracting. We will see what we can do."

Q: Have you ever had a summer like this?

"Personally, I haven't. I am sure it has been done before. The players that were available via free agency we went after were really good players. They obviously had a lot of interest. Those players, in the first wave, got to sit back and pick and choose. With Shea [Weber], obviously Nashville recognized his value to their franchise and team as well. We tried and we will continue to try to make ourselves better."

Q: On meeting with Shane Doan…

"I don't want to put words in Shane's mouth, but I think first and foremost he would like things to work out in Phoenix. I don't believe he is going to do anything until he has some answers in his mind as to what is happening there. I think he is a very loyal guy. He is loyal to Don Maloney, and the Phoenix franchise. I give him kudos for that. We will see how it plays out. I think in the end he would rather be in Phoenix in a perfect world. [It's] where his family has been raised. If he is ready to make a move, we have interest."

Q: At this point, are you more inclined to look from within? With Gustafsson, Bourdon, and Manning?

"We do feel that way. We looked at that as an opportunity to add one of the top defensemen, if not the top guy. Our shot, it didn't work. I love our defense; I love the youth of our defense. We have good size and we have some kids that have a taste now in Marc-Andre [Bourdon], Erik [Gustafsson] and Brandon Manning as well. We added Bruno Gervais in the summertime, who we really like. We are perfectly happy with our defense right now. To try and add a guy like Shea Weber, doesn't really speak to anything other than maybe you are adding one of the best guys in the league."


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:32 AM

Why are people trash talking him like he really screwed himself, he likely understood their was a good chance they would match. His main priority was to get a long term contract before the cba, this much should be obvious by now, he was not interested in a 1 year offer. This was a brilliant business move for him to maximize his value long term. And should his numbers dip this season without suter, his worth is at an all time high right now. After that he can push for a trade much like nash did if he really wants out. Gillis said the same thing yesterday weber wanted a long term contract before the new cba, he knew all possibilities and all outcomes by signing that offersheet, he did not screw himself, or do anything he didnt expect could happen, he wanted to get paid long term.

For weber a long term contract before the new cba trumped freedom to play wherever he wanted next year. He got what he wanted, and if hes unhappy, he will ask for a trade next offseason, he was a predator with nashville another year anyway even if he did not sign the offer sheet.

I feel bad for posters who think he screwed himself.


I didn't say he screwed himself financially, but he reportedly wanted out of trashville and philly designed the offer sheet so front-loaded to minimize the chances of nashville matching it. Now he's stuck there for a good while. Probably a good business move considering the CBA "speculations", but I'm sure nashville's extention offer would've been very close after the Suter situation. So, the alternative wouldn't be too poor of a decision either, but he chose the douchey road...
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:46 AM

Shea is Probably just sittin somehwere Sighing over and over.

..contentedly?

He got the contract he wanted. He had to know that odds were grossly in favor of Nashville matching the terms.

Edited by suolucidir, 25 July 2012 - 10:46 AM.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 11:40 AM

to FLA: Luongo, Raymond

to VAN: Weber, Fla prospect, Fla 3rd

to NASH: Van 1st 2013, Van 1st 2014, Fla 1st 2013, Tanev, Schroeder

Think that would work?


During and after this season, there will be speculation about Weber's desire to leave nashville.
He doesn't have a no trade, no move clause.
This will obviously spur much speculation about potential trades.
The trade speculation will now increase exponentially.

I'll start: Jensen, Lack, Tanev, first rounder for Weber

This is a little premature as Nashville can't trade Weber for 1 year.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:48 PM

Unbelievable!! Just rebuild already, they could have just shopped the 4 first round picks for better players, or kept them and pulled a Pittsburg or Edmonton and build through the draft.

I feel bad for Weber too, he obviously wanted out, now he's stuck for atleast another year if not more. He can always demand a trade but who would take that contract?


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