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Unprecedented Greenland Ice Melt Stuns NASA Scientists

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I posted a clip with a NASA scientist who was also cautioning that it's hard to tell exactly yet what the main cause of this 'extreme event' was.

Anyways, it is an 'extreme event', and now we wait to see if it is an isolated one, or one that's tied to other indicators of climate change.

Thanks for your post.

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Source please.

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Flat-earth belief is a myth perpetuated to support the claim that Christians have widely resisted scientific advancement due to doctrinal constraints."

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The only two Christian writers known to have advocated a flat earth were a 4

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-century heretic, Lactantius, and an obscure 6

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-century Egyptian Monk, Cosmas Indicopleustes"

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The myth that the Church ‘condemned as heretics all who claimed that the earth was round’ was ‘invented by two fabulists working separately: Antoine-Jean Letronne, an anticlerical 19

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-century Frenchman, and Washington Irving."

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In fact, those who opposed Columbus not only knew the earth was a sphere, but also had a good idea of how large it was—and

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was the major reason why they opposed Columbus. Columbus and his men were not afraid of falling off the earth as Irving claimed, but of travelling so far from land in an unknown part of the world. They did not know the American continent existed, and, for this reason, Columbus’ critics correctly believed that a voyage to the Far East would take far too long and cost way too much. Unfortunately, Irving used many facts from reputable references to make his fictional account appear well supported, and, as a result, ‘the public was fooled into taking his literary game as history.’

<a href="http://creation.com/the-flat-earth-myth-and-creationism#endRef36" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(106, 158, 191); ">36

A careful reading of Irving makes it clear that his ‘history’ was deliberately designed to make Christianity appear prejudiced, dogmatic and ignorant, and to make scientists appear as objective persons who were carefully weighing the facts and who, in the end, were correct. As Morrison correctly concluded, Irving’s account is ‘mischievous nonsense … . The sphericity of the globe was not in question. The issue was the width of the ocean,’ and on this question Columbus’ opposition was correct."

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Source please.

"

Flat-earth belief is a myth perpetuated to support the claim that Christians have widely resisted scientific advancement due to doctrinal constraints."

"

The only two Christian writers known to have advocated a flat earth were a 4

th

-century heretic, Lactantius, and an obscure 6

th

-century Egyptian Monk, Cosmas Indicopleustes"

"

The myth that the Church ‘condemned as heretics all who claimed that the earth was round’ was ‘invented by two fabulists working separately: Antoine-Jean Letronne, an anticlerical 19

th

-century Frenchman, and Washington Irving."

"

In fact, those who opposed Columbus not only knew the earth was a sphere, but also had a good idea of how large it was—and

this

was the major reason why they opposed Columbus. Columbus and his men were not afraid of falling off the earth as Irving claimed, but of travelling so far from land in an unknown part of the world. They did not know the American continent existed, and, for this reason, Columbus’ critics correctly believed that a voyage to the Far East would take far too long and cost way too much. Unfortunately, Irving used many facts from reputable references to make his fictional account appear well supported, and, as a result, ‘the public was fooled into taking his literary game as history.’

<a href="http://creation.com/the-flat-earth-myth-and-creationism#endRef36" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(106, 158, 191); ">36

A careful reading of Irving makes it clear that his ‘history’ was deliberately designed to make Christianity appear prejudiced, dogmatic and ignorant, and to make scientists appear as objective persons who were carefully weighing the facts and who, in the end, were correct. As Morrison correctly concluded, Irving’s account is ‘mischievous nonsense … . The sphericity of the globe was not in question. The issue was the width of the ocean,’ and on this question Columbus’ opposition was correct."

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This isn't the God thread, this isn't even a religious thread - there were a hell of a lot more people on the earth than just Christians who at one time believed the world was flat so why reference a paper to do with Christians beliefs only? Are the others who thought so just...........irrelevant? :picard:

Can we get back to melting ice in Greenland, please? Honestly, can we have ONE thread that someone doesn't derail into the God thread version 79845928357033.4?

:frantic:

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Wow the competition for stupidest posts in this thread is heating up faster than Greenland.

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And because you quote from a biased source like "creation.com" I'm supposed to view this as anything other than sanctimonious horses**t? If the Catholics didn't persecute Galileo, why the hell would they publicly apologize for it 400 years later? Your "source" is unreliable and highly biased.

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That's what I'm asking the poster - who is he referring to?

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I'm finished with this pointless, circular BS. Was a great thread Sharpie...too bad it got the usual treatment.

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lol I love your logic. 'Lets forget about it, and it will fix it self". The people who deny global warming are DEFIANTLY related to the people who thought the earth was flat.

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Wow most of you people can't even hold a simple discussion about the environment.

And I thought special Ed was special.

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I hope you're being purposefully obtuse with this post. The main discussion is global climate change and how it has caused Greenland to melt. This thread may be indirectly related to Greenland itself, but it is quite obviously a discussion on global climate change and more than anything a Public Service Announcement. It began as very constructive and informative and just because a few people posting here lack reading comprehension skills it has degenerated just like constructive threads always do into name calling and idiocy.

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(Mod edit, because enough is enough and it's time for everyone to focus on the topic at hand)

Back on topic:

"While scientists described it as an “extreme event” not previously recorded from space, they hastened to add that it was normal in a broader historical context."

Interesting comment from them.

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I dont deny 'global warming' really. I prefer to call it 'climate change' I am absolutely convinced that there is nothing we can do about it. Certainly sitting behind the a computer screen complaining about it does nothing in the slightest.

It does not help any cause. It does not change any vote . It does not stop polluting. It doesnt stop the earth from its natural geological changes.

What we can do is stop polluting, car pool, walk and a host of other things. These are the things I participate in.

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Just curious, why are you convinced that the current change is natural as opposed being a result of anthropogenic in nature?

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I agree - but as humans, yes, we're pretty stupid.

Look at all the things we do to our own bodies - smoking, drinking, drugs, chemicals (like bleach), etc...we can't even look after ourselves - how do we expect to look after a planetary ecosystem?

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Unprecedented melting of Greenland's ice sheet this month has stunned NASA scientists

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Goddard glaciologist Lora Koenig said that similar melting events occur about every 150 years, and this event is consistent with that schedule, citing the previous 1889 melt.

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I dont see how this is unprecedented. if anything, it's a few years ahead of schedule.

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I'm thinking unprecedented since satellites have been tracking such melting...or the amount that's melted in such a short span of time is unprecedented.

Just how I understood it.

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