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Does anyone know when the NHL will make their decision at the latest on if there's going to be a full season or certain amount of games are going to be missed this season?

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No. Not public. Still in discussions

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may we´ll know more after this....

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=401333

TORONTO -- The NHL Players' Association is almost ready to table its own vision for a new collective bargaining agreement.

As negotiations with the NHL resumed Tuesday, NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr indicated that the union was getting close to responding to the league's initial proposal, which included a decreased share of hockey-related revenue, term limits on contracts and a 22 per cent salary rollback.

"I doubt that it will be weeks plural," said Fehr. "But could it be two? Yeah. It could be two, it could be less."

The sides have entered gently into talks. This week's three-day session in Toronto marks the fifth consecutive week Fehr and NHL commissioner Gary Bettman have sat across the table from one another, but they still seem to be feeling their way into the process.

The NHL delivered its initial CBA proposal to the union during a bargaining session on July 13. In response, the NHLPA requested a "fair amount of additional information," according to Fehr.

"They've indicated that they're in the process of compiling it and will get it to us," he said. "In addition to looking hard at what they've given us and doing our own work, we're going to have to look at that additional information before we get to the stage of making a proposal of our own, making a counter-proposal or doing something else."

Serious negotiations won't begin until that happens.

On Tuesday, the three-hour session at NHLPA headquarters largely centred around how the league handles discipline. Brendan Shanahan, the league's disciplinarian, was in attendance along with Colin Campbell, Rob Blake and Stephane Quintal -- all members of the hockey operations staff. Veteran Carolina Hurricanes GM Jim Rutherford and Toronto Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke also took part.

The union's delegation included 10 players, four of which -- Chris Campoli, B.J. Crombeen, Steve Montador and Daniel Winnik -- are part of its negotiating committee.

So far, both sides have described the talks as amicable.

"We've had good discussions across the table," said Bettman. "I think the lines of communication have been good, the temperature in the room has been good. And so the process continues."

Bettman has been loathe to speak publicly about virtually anything pertaining to the CBA. Fehr has so far been more open about the process, and made it clear Tuesday that his membership is interested in seeing the current system of discipline changed as part of the next agreement.

"It's no secret that that's an issue which has sparked a lot of discussion among players," he said.

The sides will continue talks in Toronto on Wednesday and Thursday and are scheduled to get right back at it next week with sessions in New York on Monday and Tuesday. The CBA expires Sept. 15.

At this stage, Bettman remains optimistic that there is enough time to complete a deal without having a lockout like the one that wiped out the entire 2004-05 season.

"We think that if everybody works hard, we can get the job done in the appropriate time frame," said Bettman.

"I'm not going to place odds on it," he added. "I'm focused on making a deal, not on what might happen if we don't."

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My guess is, the latest they could make the decision is September 15th. That's the day the current CBA runs out.

Even at that point they would probably only cancel pre-season games and set a deadline when regular season games would start to get cancelled if there was no deal in place.

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I dont think so.... all we can do is sit back, relax, and hope there will be a season next year

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And can't help but keep thinking we will have to go through another lockout...

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Well things seem to be going very well at the negotiation table!! There are reports that yesterday they talked about training camps (# of pre-season games veterans have to play...) and ice conditions (look it up, I am not kiding). Apparently good progress there. The isue of revenue sharing was not addressed. And the NHLPA has not officially responded yet to the first NHL proposal made 2 weeks ago. And some still think that this will be resolved by Sept???? They are talking about ice conditions!

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They are talking about ice conditions!

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And can't help but keep thinking we will have to go through another lockout...

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The can talk about ice conditions all they want. Until they start talking about meaningful issues, I don't count that as progress.

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Enough is enough. I say if NHL has another strike/lockout, the fans should boycott until they start playing again. Turn off your TV, stop buying tickets, and quit shelling out for overpriced beer and popcorn at the games which you won't be attending. Us fans need to make our voices heard, and put pressure on the NHL and the NHLPA to get this done. I believe we can get every single NHL fan in on this. We have to do it for the game of hockey. This October, if the NHL refuses to hold games, let's send a message, that if the NHL won't play, we won't go to the nonexistent games. We can do this. Spread the word.

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Enough is enough. I say if NHL has another strike/lockout, the fans should boycott until they start playing again. Turn off your TV, stop buying tickets, and quit shelling out for overpriced beer and popcorn at the games which you won't be attending. Us fans need to make our voices heard, and put pressure on the NHL and the NHLPA to get this done. I believe we can get every single NHL fan in on this. We have to do it for the game of hockey. This October, if the NHL refuses to hold games, let's send a message, that if the NHL won't play, we won't go to the nonexistent games. We can do this. Spread the word.

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Won't happen. Never has in any sport, never will. Fans are fans and the owners know they will come back. Fans have no power, they are hooked and they will be back, all the talk of 'that is it for me if there is another lock-out' is just lame threats. You will be back in January or next year, i am sure of it, just like all the others. And anyways, what does that mean: " if the NHL won't play, we won't go to the nonexistent games"??? How would you go to a non existent game?

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Enough is enough. I say if NHL has another strike/lockout, the fans should boycott until they start playing again. Turn off your TV, stop buying tickets, and quit shelling out for overpriced beer and popcorn at the games which you won't be attending. Us fans need to make our voices heard, and put pressure on the NHL and the NHLPA to get this done. I believe we can get every single NHL fan in on this. We have to do it for the game of hockey. This October, if the NHL refuses to hold games, let's send a message, that if the NHL won't play, we won't go to the nonexistent games. We can do this. Spread the word.

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random question. what happens if I buy single game tickets and there is some sort of lockout for part or entire season.

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random question. what happens if I buy single game tickets and there is some sort of lockout for part or entire season.

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I want hockey as much as the next person but I want FAIR hockey not this crap where goons are awarded and actual skilled players/teams are penalized. So basically I am okay with a lockout as long as the things wrong with the game are fixed, more importantly they need to teach the refs to do their job!

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