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#1 -CanuckMan-

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:42 PM

My proposal is pretty simple. I say we go ahead and sign Pavel Kubina. He's a good reliable defenceman who has some size. He also shoots righthanded and that is something we lack on the backend. If we can sign him for about 3 million and dump Ballard then we can have some good balance on our defence. We also save some cap.

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Bieksa = Hamhuis (shut down pair)

Kubina = Edler (Backup shut down paring with physicality)

Tanev = Garrison ( Reliable pairing and Garrison has a big shot)

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:45 PM

I've always liked Kubina and would be thrilled if he signed here.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:46 PM

We don't need another top 4 D-man.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:00 PM

I put up this proposal because the current D we have is not good enough to get us deep in the playoffs and is not as good as the one we had during our cup run unless Tanev matures greatly and Ballard returns to pre trade form. Also with the way our D loves to fall like flies when it comes to injuries we can never have enough top 4 Dmen.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:00 PM

As much as I like Kubina, we probably dont need another top 4 dman
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

We don't need another top 4 D-man.


Exactly.... Garrison is a legit top 4 guy and shouldn;t be bumped to the third pairing
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:09 PM

If we had a decent deal to ship out Ballard with, then Kubina would be a great replacement.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:14 PM

I would do that, but only if Doan gets signed here (or for sure won't be signing here and the forward group is improved through trading one goalie). There should be enough salary cap space spent in each position to get the balanced depth of skill.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:10 PM

As good as Tanev is right now, I would like to see him in the AHL for at least one more season. He's young and still filling out his frame. Put him down in the AHL with NHL calber strength and let him acclimate to that environment and level of competition while playing top pairing minutes.

Sign Kubina to a 1 year, $3M deal. With Doan @ 5.5M if we're lucky enough to get him, and a trade of Luongo+Raymond for Matthias, Clemmensen, Bjugstad and a pick, we get an incredibly deep line up. Just about every forward in the bottom six can play spot duty in the top 6 in a pinch in the event of injury, and the defensive depth is solid.

Make no mistake about it, we are a win now team, and as good as our youth is we can afford to let them develop while we augment with veteran UFA additions; heck even Kassian could benefit from an entire season in the AHL.

My take on it is to stack the Wolves as best as possible and give them the best chance at winning the Calder cup. It gives them the experience of playing in a long playoff run together as a group and as they then transition into the NHL, are better suited to handling the extreme pressures of the playoffs. This ensures we are competitive NOW and in the future.


FORWARDS

Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Shane Doan ($5.500m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Shawn Matthias ($0.852m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Dale Weise ($0.615m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)
Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Pavel Kubina ($3.000m)
Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) /

GOALTENDERS
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
Scott Clemmensen ($1.200m)
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(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,611,625; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,588,375
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:40 PM

I wouldnt mind adding Kubina or Rozsival if they signed for under two million

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - Garrison
Ballard - Rozsival/Kubina
Alberts/Tanev

Three solid two-way pairs, and Alberts/Tanev are more than capable of filling in.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:05 AM

I agree he would be a good signing, though I think he should be used on the bottom pairing with Ballard or Tanev.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 02:00 AM

I would like to have some great depth at D. But unless he is willing to sign for 1 year only. I think it's better to keep money saved away for next year for resigning Edler...

But let's say Kabina wouldn't mind a 1 year contract.

1. Edler Garrison
2. Hamhuis Bieksa
3. Ballard Kabina
4. Tanev Alberts

Unbelievable solid depth^

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:54 AM

Yeah, definetely wouldn't mind Kubina. Big solid defenceman who can also put up some points. A third pairing of Ballard-Kubina would be absolutely lethal.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 07:04 PM

We surely could use the "ideal" top 4 D! We do not have the coveted Norris candidate that virtually every SC winner rides.

But Kubina, barring an Edler or Ballard trade would be 4th on the depth chart on our left side, or at best would pass KB4. Kubina does bring intriguing size and skills, but is reported to have slowed considerably. Last year I proposed brining him in as a rental for Ballard to clear his cap space. However, that was and is a depth player secondary move, not the Norris guy that becomes worth chasing. Again, barring a trade clearing Edler or Ballard, why bother with Kubina...?

We don't need another top 4 D-man.


Edited by Canuck Surfer, 28 July 2012 - 07:05 PM.

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