Jai604 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I agree, Sam's a great communicator. And yeah, we lost a great intellectual and secularism/humanism/atheism lost its most powerful rhetorical artillery piece, in Hitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 I watched your video Super19. Hopefully you will watch this one and 'reflect' as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SukhKular Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 (Article is a couple years old) "CNN recently published an article entitled Study: Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S. exaggerated; according to a study released by Duke University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, “the terrorist threat posed by radicalized Muslim-Americans has been exaggerated.” Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom). Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company. Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist! The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews). Let them dare say it…they couldn’t; it would be political and social suicide to say such a thing. Most Americans would shut down such talk as bigoted; yet, similar statements continue to be said of Islam, without any repercussions. The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? (For the record: I don’t believe in such profiling, because I am–unlike the right wing nutters–a believer in American ideals.) The moral of the story is that Americans ought to calm down when it comes to Islamic terrorism. Right wingers always live in mortal fear–or rather, they try to make you feel that way. In fact, Pamela Geller (the queen of internet Islamophobia) literally said her mission was to “scare the bejeezus outta ya.” Don’t be fooled, and don’t be a wuss. You don’t live in constant fear of radicalized Latinos (unless you’re Lou Dobbs), even though they commit seven times more acts of terrorism than Muslims in America. Why then are you wetting yourself over Islamic radicals? In the words of Cenk Uygur: you’re at a ten when you need to be at a four. Nobody is saying that Islamic terrorism is not a matter of concern, but it’s grossly exaggerated. Related Posts: Europol report: All terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that aren’t RAND report: Threat of homegrown jihadism exaggerated, Zero U.S. civilians killed since 9/11 Update: A reader by the name of Dima added: The FBI Terrorism Report shows…[that] the highest number of terrorist incidents in the U.S. by region (90) took place in Puerto Rico. Second Update: An Islamophobe commented on this article, saying that the statistics are flawed because the FBI included small acts such as “stealing rats from a lab” as an act of terrorism. Of course, this is patently false. Here is a breakdown of the terrorist attacks by type (the pie chart is from the FBI’s official website and can be accessed here): Terrorism by Event, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database http://www.loonwatch...ts-are-muslims/ ________________ There are 4 parts to this video but bring your attention to at least the last two minutes of this video (12:50-end) This was a bit eye-opening even for myself. 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JLumme Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Two and a half men is a terrible show, but I don't think it's fair to label Chuck Lorre as a terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The amount of ignorant people out there is not shocking at all. At least its slightly better than it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 How many Islamic terrorists are there compared to Atheistic terrorists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Slaytanic Wehrmacht Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Well...if you use this graph alone, I'd guess that the "Extreme Left Wing Group" are mainly atheists...after all, they want to see things like churches burned to the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Wow this may be among the Top 5 most ignorant things you have ever said. Your "guess" is obviously unfounded, and you honestly think that everyone who wants to see corrupt religious institutions burned to the ground are in the atheist category? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaytanic Wehrmacht Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 He's trolling for attention. Next post would have been something like "now you know how it feels when YOU generalize". Followed by a derailed thread of victim-hood and religious oppression. Well, there's 30% chance of the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Wow this may be among the Top 5 most ignorant things you have ever said. Your "guess" is obviously unfounded, and you honestly think that everyone who wants to see corrupt religious institutions burned to the ground are in the atheist category? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaytanic Wehrmacht Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Don't you? But please...prove me wrong...what are Extreme Left Wing Groups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLumme Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Well...if you use this graph alone, I'd guess that the "Extreme Left Wing Group" are mainly atheists...after all, they want to see things like churches burned to the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 In the most simple terms....far left or extreme left wing "terrorist" groups seek to dismantle social hierarchies, seeking equalization of the distribution of wealth, a society where in theory everyone is equal and no one has dominion over anyone else. and mostly violence against those deemed to be in an upper CLASS (Occupy groups, maybe?) and has absolutely nothing to do with religion in any way shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Can someone explain to me who gives a flying @$%^#$ what nationality 'terrorists' are? I would focus on the fact they are terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 So...are they for the most part, atheist or do they believe in some sort of religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaytanic Wehrmacht Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 So...are they for the most part, atheist or do they believe in some sort of religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaytanic Wehrmacht Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Atheism is a form or religion. The Religion of hating everyone who believes in God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Can someone explain to me who gives a flying @$%^#$ what nationality 'terrorists' are? I would focus on the fact they are terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Umm..I said it's based on classes...so they more than likely come from all categories...theist, non-theist, nihilist..whatever...it's f***ing irrelevant though because let's say it was like a venn diagram. If some atheists are left wingers and few left wingers are violent, are all atheists violent? no...and are all atheists left wingers? no. that should answer your question. If some cars are red and few cars are non-compliant...are all red cars non-compliant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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