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#1 Line Juggler

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:07 PM

If you were Canucks GM:

would you sign Shane Doan for 4 years at $30 Million to play for Canucks?
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:09 PM

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:09 PM

If I were to sign Shane Doan for $7.5M, I would only sign him for 1 year.

But no way is he worth $7.5M. Maybe around $5M.

Edited by -Vintage Canuck-, 27 July 2012 - 12:09 PM.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:10 PM

TSN REPORT: DOAN SEEKS FOUR YEARS, $30M IF HE LEAVES COYOTES


If an NHL team wants a shot at landing Shane Doan, it's going to be quite costly.

A source told Globe and Mail hockey columnist David Shoalts on Friday that the unrestricted free agent forward is looking for a four-year, $30 million contract if he leave the Phoenix Coyotes - the only franchise he's ever played for.

Doan is coming off a five-year, $22.75 million contract with an average annual value of $4.55 million.

Doan, who hit the market on July 1, already visited with the New York Rangers and the Philadelphia Flyers last week while taking part in collective bargaining talks with the NHL and NHL Players' Association.

The 35-year-old forward has maintained that his first priority is to stay with the Coyotes and is keeping a close eye on whether prospective buyer Greg Jamison will be able to close his deal to keep the team in Arizona. According to reports, Doan and Jamison met Friday to discuss the possibility of progress being made towards a sale.

In 1,119 career NHL games - all with Winnipeg/Phoenix, Doan has scored 296 goals and 738 points.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:11 PM

Tempting but how can you justify Doan being the highest paid player on the Canucks...



Nevermind. I will take it....




No I won't.




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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:13 PM

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I'd do it only if the cap hit goes down every year for example:

Year 1: $7.5 million
Year 2: $6.5 million
Year 3: $5.5 million
Year 4: $4.5 million

Something like that.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:14 PM

Thats a long commitment for a lot of scratch. I think Doan is a great player and I would love to have him on the Canucks but I wouldn't want to destroy the Canucks future by signing him. 5.5 AAV for 4 I would do for sure but 7.5 is just too much IMO.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:14 PM

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I'd do it only if the cap hit goes down every year for example:

Year 1: $7.5 million
Year 2: $6.5 million
Year 3: $5.5 million
Year 4: $4.5 million

Something like that.


Cap hit can't go down for every year.
He would be a $7.5mil cap hit for the duration of the contract if we signed him for 4 years at $30mil.
Not worth it.

Edited by Jagermeister, 27 July 2012 - 12:25 PM.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:15 PM

I'd do it only if the cap hit goes down every year for example:

Year 1: $7.5 million
Year 2: $6.5 million
Year 3: $5.5 million
Year 4: $4.5 million

Something like that.

Cap hit stays the same throughout Contract. The Caphit for that scenario would be 6 million
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:16 PM

I'd do it only if the cap hit goes down every year for example:

Year 1: $7.5 million
Year 2: $6.5 million
Year 3: $5.5 million
Year 4: $4.5 million

Something like that.


That is impossible, though. The cap hit is the average yearly salary for the duration of his contract. While the actual salary may change, once he signs the four-year deal the number will remain the same until July 2016. Additionally, because he is now 35 years of age, the $7.5 million cap hit would remain on the team's salary cap until his contract expires -- even if he were to retire early.

Edited by WeatherWise, 27 July 2012 - 12:19 PM.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:16 PM

Maybe not this off season, but there must be better ways to spend $30 million over 4 years.

Burrows and Edler will need a raise. Not sure if there is anyone left in the free agent market?

Year 1: $7.5 million
Year 2: $6.5 million
Year 3: $5.5 million
Year 4: $4.5 million


Cap hit can't go down for every year.
He would be a $7.5mil cap hit for the duration of the contract.
Not worth it.


That would be a $6 million a year hit...
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:17 PM

Tough choice, I would rather sign him for a 1 or 2 year contract featuring 6.5M a year. 4 years seems like a long commitment, plus he will be 39 by the end of his contract, so if he declines, it won't be worth it.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:19 PM

In no way is Shane Doan, at 35 years of age, worth $7.5M / a if I am the GM of a team challenging for the Cup.

He is not a big name. He is, at this stage of his career, a solid second line player on the decline. Would I like to see him in a Canuck's uniform? Ab-so-freakin'-lutely. Do I guarantee him $30 over 4 a? Sorry. That is insanity. Sad thing is, if that's what the market says he is worth, then that's what he's worth.

I hope we sign him, but not at this price point.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:19 PM

No more than $4 mill per year and a max of 2 years.With the scarcity of good players available Doan is being overated by many.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:20 PM

Doan-4yr/23.6m (5.9m aav) :)

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:21 PM

At this point, signing Shane Doan to the aforementioned contract would seem a lot like signing a 36-year-old Mark Messier for three years. There is very little chance Doan would ever live up to the contract. Like Messier, he would become the most expensive player on the team's payroll.

Edited by WeatherWise, 27 July 2012 - 12:23 PM.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:21 PM

I wouldn't sign him with an AAV over 5.5
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:21 PM

I wouldn't do it. The term and money are to much.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

I wouldn't sign a player who has never scored more than 80 points (78 career high for Doan) to a 7.5mil a year contract. That kind of money, in my opinion, is reserved for consistent point per game players who have won something in their carrer.

Edited by gumballthechewy, 27 July 2012 - 12:29 PM.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:23 PM

Let the Eastern team have him, we'd like to re-sign Burrows, Edler, Higgins, and Lapierre next year.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:23 PM

Shane Doan is not a 7.5mil player; the max he should be making is 6mil.

Edited by CanucksHD, 27 July 2012 - 12:24 PM.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:23 PM

Maybe not this off season, but there must be better ways to spend $30 million over 4 years.

Burrows and Edler will need a raise. Not sure if there is anyone left in the free agent market?



That would be a $6 million a year hit...


I was talking about the 4year $30mil contract.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:24 PM

I would because of his skill set. To get anybody close to what he brings to a team would cost more in a trade for good roster players and prospects. Big deal if a couple of selfish forwards get their noses out of joint.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:24 PM

not a chance, that would be close to 50M for 10 players and that number doesn't include Bobby Lu, depending on the new CBA if that number comes down to 55M we are screwed.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:24 PM

No. The guy is way too greedy for a guy thats won nothing in his career.

Edited by Apples, 27 July 2012 - 12:25 PM.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:25 PM

I'd do it only if the cap hit goes down every year for example:

Year 1: $7.5 million
Year 2: $6.5 million
Year 3: $5.5 million
Year 4: $4.5 million

Something like that.


Sorry my mullet. But you are incorrect. After a contract is signed, cap hit remains the same
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:27 PM

Nope

Maybe half that for two years only


(meaning half that cap hit for two years max)

Edited by Shift-4, 27 July 2012 - 12:28 PM.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:28 PM

Doan is a great player but not worth that kind of money. It is beyond belief what some of the players are signing for....Semin $7.5M?
I would rather give Jensen a shot at playing than overpay for a veteran who has scored 30 goals once. It would be great to have Doan on the Canucks but if that is what he wants....no thanks.
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Edited by bluesman60, 27 July 2012 - 01:00 PM.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:28 PM

I was talking about the 4year $30mil contract.


Got it. At first read it looked like you were saying $7.5 million to the Mullet's post...
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:30 PM

I'd compare this to the first NHL CBA proposal. He's asking for the moon and seeing if someone will blink.

If Doan is serious about going to a legit cup contender I'm pretty sure he is not getting this deal. Only team I see that might be desperate enough to do it is Detroit since they have a ton of cap space and has been shut down from all the top prizes so far.

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