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#31 CanucksFanMike

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:51 PM

I agree with the OP, Torres is sometimes out of control and his hits are always boarderline dirty or clean.

I am glad we re-signed higgy, not torres
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:52 PM

Hes a series changer. I love him. and wish we still had him


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:41 PM

He wasn't that physical against Boston. He's more of a kill shot hitter not always physical.

Really? I remember him laying out McQuaid many times. I also remember some on Paille and Boychuk.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:43 PM

id have him back in a heart beat

but i understand why they went in the other direction and with shanny around , not a good combo
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:50 PM

Raffi Torres was boss.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:00 PM

I don't understand how referees hand out penalties to him when his feet don't leave the ice, the player he hits are still in possession of the puck, he hits them with his shoulder, yeah sometimes its a shoulder to the head, but shouldn't it be a players responsibility to always expect to get hit and not keep his head down. This is the NHL, not peewee. I agree, I miss Raffi as well, but Kassian can probably be a better fit for us then Raffi.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:12 PM

I don't understand how referees hand out penalties to him when his feet don't leave the ice, the player he hits are still in possession of the puck, he hits them with his shoulder, yeah sometimes its a shoulder to the head, but shouldn't it be a players responsibility to always expect to get hit and not keep his head down. This is the NHL, not peewee. I agree, I miss Raffi as well, but Kassian can probably be a better fit for us then Raffi.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:23 PM

He was like a nuclear deterrent. Yes, people claim that his hit on Seabrook almost cost us the Chicago series, but really it was the return of a well-rested David Bolland that did that. In round three he also took out Jumbo Joe's shoulder, and that shortened that series imo.

Did we miss him vs. LA? Damn right we did. Nobody was stopping Dustin Brown and Mike Richards from running around.

However, he is an oft-suspended renegade, and he is gone whether we like it or not. Certainly there's a better option than Raffi Torres. (We just might not have it yet.)
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:25 PM

He did also take out David Krejci on one massive hit if you recall, but by that point the series was already blown. Krejci survived.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:50 PM

Yes I'd like him to come back.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:30 PM

He wasn't that physical against Boston. He's more of a kill shot hitter not always physical.


we needed more of this from him in that series



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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:07 AM

we needed a torres type player during the playoffs...gmmg shoulda gave him the two years...you need security when your a player eecially if you followed what was expected of you

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:08 AM

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:26 AM

MIke Gillis didn't let him go, we just didn't come to terms. He was not worth anymore then what he was playing here for. 1 million dollars. He got a 80% pay raise with Phoenix, and MIke Gillis believed that keeping him around didn't make sense. Sure we are down 2 an average of 2 body checks per game, I think he averaged around 2 body checks, but it just wasn't worth it, and keeping a guy like Chris Higgins around and at the time, Sturm, who can almost do what he does, (play a checking role and proven 7 time 20 goal scorer) made more sense then Torres. He did try to sign him, but 1.8 million was too much.

Players Nikolaj Ehlers have been compared too by the fan base of the Vancouver Canucks.

 

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 02:10 AM

we needed a torres type player during the playoffs...gmmg shoulda gave him the two years...you need security when your a player eecially if you followed what was expected of you


And Torres' reckless type of play ensured he didn't see a minute of ice time after the Hossa hit.

Do tell...how does that lead to "security"?

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 06:19 AM

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:04 PM

, yeah sometimes its a shoulder to the head, but shouldn't it be a players responsibility to always expect to get hit and not keep his head down.


Markus Naslund would disagree. All of the videos here show blatant hits to the head. I'm so glad we let him walk. He'll be out of the league within 2 years.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:47 PM

As much as a disaster he can be, he's intimidating and can change a series.
He can take guys out for a series, just look at Seabrook or Thornton. Although Thornton still played but he was invisible.

Canucks needed a guy like him against the Kings.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 05:10 PM

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Remember when he hit Thornton? game 4 was it? Ol' Joe disappeared in the series after that hit.

Wow, he disappeared for a whole GAME. :rolleyes:
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:46 PM

Kind of conflicted on Torres. His recklessness makes him a good player, but can also hurt his team. The suspension can be a distraction to the other team, and motivate other teams to play chippier, injure our players, and even play better hockey. Not to mention the direct effects of being shorthanded. So in that way he can be a liability.

On the other hand, when he doesn't cross the line and stays on the edge, he can be such an effective player. I loved his play in the 2011 playoffs. He plays hockey like he's in a demolition derby and his energy in 2011 was awesome, flying around crushing guys left and right. When you're on the ice against him, there's an intimidation factor, because you know there's a crazy, 225 pound, bug eyed dude that's gonna be running around trying to hit everyone, so you'd better keep your head up.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:28 PM

Loved Raffi.

I think people on this board under estimate what he brings and brought to the table in 2011.

Everyone talked about toughness after the loss to the Bruins and yet we let the guy on our team who hits everything walk because he wanted an extra year. Then we go and sign washed up Sturm. I just don't get it.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:26 PM

He was a good, aggressive player but that came with a cost-suspensions.
He's kind of turned in to the new matt cooke. nobody like him anymore
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 05:57 PM

We DEFINITELY could have used a Torres in the Kings series.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 06:03 PM

Raffi would have been fantastic to have on the roster again.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:54 PM

And Torres' reckless type of play ensured he didn't see a minute of ice time after the Hossa hit.

Do tell...how does that lead to "security"?


security in terms of financial stability...

yet d. keith got to see some payoff times for a non-hockey hit..

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 11:04 PM

I think he wanted more years then money not sure though :P

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 01:19 AM

Love his energy but his hits are malicious and I feel like that is something that needs to be taken out of the game.

Hits make hockey entertaining but sometimes watching him play makes my stomach uneasy because how he hits some guys on borderline plays.
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 02:57 AM

Maybe if Booth continues working on his hits he can gain the same power without the reputation.


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