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#1 TheCammer

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:40 AM

I don't consider myself a complete Canucks' homer and I feel many of the Canucks fanbase over value many of our players (we also under value many as well - Lui) but the article by Eklund today estimating that Edler is comparable to Enstrom seems off-base.

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I don't think Edler is a Norris candidate or ever will be but I can see him being a perennial all-star. Enstrom is good steady offensive defenseman but I think he may have peaked. Maybe i haven't seen him play enough.

Thoughts?

Edited by TheCammer, 28 July 2012 - 10:42 AM.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:46 AM

Always thought Edler was better than Enstrom. I also think that with a healthy season and that right D-man to play with Edler that Edler could be in Norris talks eventually. But if we could get Edler for Enstrom type money, that'd be great.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:48 AM

They're not comparable, because they don't play the same way.

Edler is/can be a LOT more physical than Enstrom. Tobias just doesn't have the ability to hit people like Edler does. Enstrom is 5'10" 180, enough said.

Passing ability and puck movement perhaps, but that's only one dimension of the game.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:49 AM

Edler is better than Enstrom

That is all there is to it
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:51 AM

They are only comparable because, they are both in the 10-20 range of top defense men. Edler has more upside, but is still inconsistent. Contracts should be really close, Edler deserves more but hope he signs a discount.

Enstrom is more of a puck moving defense man, very smart and is reliable defensively.

Edler is more like a truck, hard hitting guy, that can put up points.

Key note is that Enstrom had an off year last year, he usually hits 50 points. Edler got 49 last year, and had an off year defensively.

Like I've said in the Enstrom re-signing, Enstrom's contract is around the range Edler's contract should be.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:58 AM

I really hope we get Edler at $5M at most.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:59 AM

This isn't even a debate.
Say what you will about who is better, but they play a very different style of game.
Terrible comparison.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:04 AM

edler plays more physical and is better defensively

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:06 AM

Not comparables. Enstrom is 5'10" 180lbs. Edler is 6'3" 215lbs. Entirely different body size and physique.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:13 AM

I always thought Edler was a, "lite" version of Weber. He can hit, score, make plays, defend, all at a high level. Consistency is really where he lacks in comparison to Norris calibre D-men.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:14 AM

Did any of you read the Eklund article? He compares them in terms of contract value, not as players.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:14 AM

They're both Swedes, roughly the same age and both can be considered offensive defence men, but other than that I don't see the similarity.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:19 AM

Edler is better than Enstrom

That is all there is to it


Besides...Eklund...

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:32 AM

That is what I thought

This isn't even a debate.
Say what you will about who is better, but they play a very different style of game.
Terrible comparison.

That was my thoughts as well. I just wanted some other folks' perspective given that i haven't seen Enstrom a lot.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:37 AM

Did any of you read the Eklund article? He compares them in terms of contract value, not as players.

I did read the article and understand it was a contract comparison. However if you make a statement that their contracts should be similar in $$$ amounts then I think you are stating they have relatively the same value as players. That isn't saying they have similar skill sets or play the same .

I think Edler brings more to the table than Enstrom (from a limited perspective) so given Eklund's opinion and a very close vote by the readers' of the article I am wondering do we over value Edler or does Enstrom bring something to the table I am not aware of.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:39 AM

Besides...Eklund...

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:41 AM

This is eklund we are talking about right...

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:43 AM

u see edler smash foos on the boards? snipe goals from the blueline?

he's a legit norris trophy contender this upcoming season if his linemates stay healthy

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:44 AM

How about we get them to play together? That'd work right?

But I don't have an opinion really, I don't watch enough Jets games to know his style.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:47 AM

I would say Enstrom has a nicer set of hands but other than that Edler is bigger, more physical, harder shot. Both are nice skaters but I would give the edge to Edler. He covers ice well and has a very efficient stride. Like I said earlier, I think Enstrom might have a bit better hands/vision but not by much. Edler has fairly nice hands and good vision too.

Overall, Edler is way more valuable and has more potential IMO. They are very different players and Eklund tends to post stupid crap like that when there is not much to talk about.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:03 PM

they are actually comparible. But I rather have Edler because he is much bigger.

Players Nikolaj Ehlers have been compared too by the fan base of the Vancouver Canucks.

 

1 Pavel Bure

2 Markus Naslund

3 Nathan Mackkinon

4 Jonathan Drouin.

5 Jonathan Tavares

 

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:08 PM

I wish we still had Luc Bourdon:( He would have been better than both of them.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:57 PM

Not a chance, the size difference and they both play different. No way they can be compared and Edler can be a Norris candidate OP, not to sure what makes you think otherwise.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:58 PM

Edler has the size to be an elite talent at D in this league. he has the offensive ability to rack up 50-60 points a season, plus he has shown that he can hit as hard as anyone in the league. Not to mention he has a blast of a slap shot. Enstrom is an very gifted and good hockey player, but he can't move big forwards around like Eddie can. It's an interesting comparison, but the article comparing the wrong aspects of their game while ignoring how physically gifted Edler is

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:05 PM

As usual Eklund makes himself look like an idiot.

I am not saying I am an expert on scouting a player, but I have watched both of them play, hundreds of times on television, while in the back of my mind comparing them and their style and habits, etc

Edler is more confident and attempts more with the puck, passes better, better point shot.

Just my honest opinion, not taking anything from Enstrom who is great as well

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:15 PM

I wish we still had Luc Bourdon:( He would have been better than both of them.


As much as we all miss Bourdon, I doubt that would have been the case.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:16 PM

I'll compare Eklund to Mrs. Cleo the psychic, both full of BS and hot air.........

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:26 PM

EDLER is and always will be much better

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:43 PM

I'll compare Eklund to Mrs. Cleo the psychic, both full of BS and hot air.........


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Posted 28 July 2012 - 04:10 PM

I don't consider myself a complete Canucks' homer and I feel many of the Canucks fanbase over value many of our players (we also under value many as well - Lui) but the article by Eklund today estimating that Edler is comparable to Enstrom seems off-base.

http://www.hockeybuz...r-Worth/1/45838

I don't think Edler is a Norris candidate or ever will be but I can see him being a perennial all-star. Enstrom is good steady offensive defenseman but I think he may have peaked. Maybe i haven't seen him play enough.

Thoughts?

You say he has peaked but yet you have not really seen him play much ?? Makes no sense for you to come to that conclusion then
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