Clonedanielsedin Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Unleash the fury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Kassian will determine how much Kassian plays - and AV will use him accordingly, as he does with all his young players. As long as Kassian plays the solid two-way game he showed he is capable of, AV will be happy to give him all the opportunity he can - after all, there was probably no one happier on trade deadline day to be getting Kassian than AV. Kassian is also in a different situation than Hodgson - aside from Hansen, he is the only other natural right winger on the roster. If the Canucks sign Doan, it will likely effect Kassian's ice time, but if they don't, there is a great opportunity for Kassian as a young player on an otherwise veteran club. Regardless, he will get some of the best coaching there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobydooby Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Although, if we do sign Doan, and depending what we get back from the Luongo deal (If it happens), he may have to spend most of the year in the minors. Sedin - Sedin - Doan Booth - Kesler - Burrows Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen Raymond - Malhotra - Weise Not much room available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Not sure what kassian did to get the crazy respect you all show for him. but if you are willing to bend over that easy for someone that has accomplished nothing in the nhl it will be easy for MG to pull the wool over your eyes for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xCANUCKAHOLICx Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 av should coach kids lol im drunk but damn he doesnt like to play his guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 What you said still doesn't change the fact that you are praising a kid for no good reason at all, he is not the next coming of jesus so please dont treat him as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Play a solid two way game and you get ice time. He's done it with everybody from Kesler and Burrows to Raymond and Hansen that has developed under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gumballthechewy Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Not sure what kassian did to get the crazy respect you all show for him. but if you are willing to bend over that easy for someone that has accomplished nothing in the nhl it will be easy for MG to pull the wool over your eyes for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I loved Kassian and Martin chucking fists. That's a good ole time hockey fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 If that's the case then why does Raymond get Ice Time? AV is biased and I'm getting tired of him playing favorites. if a young player plays well, there is no change in the ice time, unless that player gets less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Ya AV is pretty biased. I mean, like, why would give guys ice time that play a 200ft game rather the guys who are defensively liable on the ice because they haven't developed that part of their game? Clearly, AV favors the two-way players over the others. What BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo1970 Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Kassian may not have found his stride at the end of last season, but from what I'm hearing, he's getting himself into the best shape of his life.To me he's showing how serious he's taking next season and how bad he wants to be an important part of our success. I kind of feel for the kid. He was traded at the end of the season for a guy that Vancouver fans loved and thought was going to be here for a long time. Even the players themselves didn't seem to see it coming. I really wasn't surprised that he never really got comfortable. Vancouver is a pressure pot to play in. Every game is scrutinised and the players are put under a microscope, being judged for every play they make or miss. I think, with a full training camp under his belt and a fair chance to actually get to know his teammates he will find where he fits. I believe he will have a solid season. He showed flashes of his potential last year but, unfortunately more often than not, he couldn't finnish. I hope that changes this year for both himself and the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Don't worry Zack Kassian fans, MG will make AV play him in offensive type roles, just to show case him enough, and then he will be traded for a player to help the Canucks for their playoff run! So don't worry Kassian fans MG will eventually make AV play him, you will see him play sometime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 If that's the case then why does Raymond get Ice Time? AV is biased and I'm getting tired of him playing favorites. if a young player plays well, there is no change in the ice time, unless that player gets less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Don't worry Zack Kassian fans, MG will make AV play him in offensive type roles, just to show case him enough, and then he will be traded for a player to help the Canucks for their playoff run! So don't worry Kassian fans MG will eventually make AV play him, you will see him play sometime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Raymond plays quite well defensively. When he first came up he'd get moved to the third or fourth line and found himself benched when he floated defensively. And it wouldn't matter if he scored a goal in the game if he didn't back check he'd lose ice time. AV has done it with every prospect including the ones that are now veterans on the team. Kesler, Burrows and Hansen all went through the same process. That tells me it not a case of playing favorites. It's simply a teaching tool. Veterans will always get more slack than prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 You think Raymond is a great defensive player? He can kill penalties because of his speed and skating abililty, people give him too much credit for his defensive play, I think he isn't really all that defensive at all, He just uses his skating ability. So that being said offensively if someone is playing better than Raymond why would AV give Raymond that time isn't of the younger player who is playing better? And I love Booth, I defend him non-stop but he isn't A+ defensively either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Which is why Booth rarely sees the ice 4 on 4 in OT and Raymond does. Raymond has become a good back checker and pretty good in his own end. Which is also why Raymond plays PK and Booth doesn't. It isn't rocket science. It's not like Kassian wasn't given opportunities. He got Sedin time, 2nd line, third line and then wound up on the forth line. He not only wasn't producing he wasn't as defensively sound. AV will give players time to work out of a slump as long as they play hard both directions. But if you're in a slump and a defensive liability you will lose ice time. And as I've said many times, veterans will always get more slack than prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Last time I checked Kesler and Burrows both played under Marc Crawford first in their first NHL season, actually Kesler played in the 2003-04 for 28 games, but both played in 2005-06 Marc Crawfords last year as the Canucks head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Which is why Booth rarely sees the ice 4 on 4 in OT and Raymond does. Raymond has become a good back checker and pretty good in his own end. Which is also why Raymond plays PK and Booth doesn't. It isn't rocket science. It's not like Kassian wasn't given opportunities. He got Sedin time, 2nd line, third line and then wound up on the forth line. He not only wasn't producing he wasn't as defensively sound. AV will give players time to work out of a slump as long as they play hard both directions. But if you're in a slump and a defensive liability you will lose ice time. And as I've said many times, veterans will always get more slack than prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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