MrsCanuck Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 State of Punjab rarely goes 24hours WITH power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 its not "laziness" . Its not the avg. Indian's fault..... You have a 3rd world infrastructure, recent reports saying at least $1TRILL needed in investment to upgrade the country's infrastructure. Yet such upgrades are met with opposition (for good reason) due to the horrible amount of corruption in the country. From top to bottom. Work is done shabby, materials are shabby, workers aren't trained well enough. All the while the contractors are given gov't dough, they mickey mouse the job and walk away with as much $ as possible. This isn't Canada were all the tradesmen are red seal certified doing job up to Canadian Code, getting paid $30/hr to do it. This is just another reason I believe India is not in direct competition with China yet, they are decades behind the Chinese in these kind of areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksbiggestfan Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 It's really no different than going into any of the mom-and pop Indian restaurants in Vancouver and being appalled by the cleanliness of the facilities.... ever hear of a mop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Goose- Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I've been to India, completed a 3 month study on Women's development for Queen's U there, add to that Jamaica, China, Mexico, Nicaragua, Philippines, Thailand, and about 30 other "1st world countries".... if you want to use such an archaic way of describing them. India has the worst wiring out of all of those countries. The power company literally doesn't pull down bad wires when they die, they simply wrap a new(er) wire around the old one up to the connection. yes, it's a combination of the poorness that surrounds Indian culture, but it's also a matter of good-old-fashion laziness. Sorry to say. But it's true. It's really no different than going into any of the mom-and pop Indian restaurants in Vancouver and being appalled by the cleanliness of the facilities.... ever hear of a mop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I♥Wellwood Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Don't most people in India have generators that they use when the power goes out ? That's what it was like when I was last there. Super useful. The blackouts were hardly noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Phaneuf Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Don't most people in India have generators that they use when the power goes out ? That's what it was like when I was last there. Super useful. The blackouts were hardly noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I♥Wellwood Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Mostly at homes...my house in India has multiple generators LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key2thecup Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 The incident's got its own Wiki July 2012 India blackout From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia July 2012 India blackout Indian states (dark red) affected by the power outage on 31 July 2012 Date 02:48, 30 July 2012 (+05:30)- 20:30, 31 July 2012 (+05:30) Location Northern India The July 2012 India blackout is a power outage that occurred on 30 July 2012 in northern India, affecting 14 states,[1] followed by another power outage on 31 July affecting 20 states. It was the largest blackout in history, affecting over 600 million people,[2][3] about half of India's population. As of the evening of 31 July 2012, electrical power had been restored to most of northern India, including the country's capital city of New Delhi, and to about half of eastern India.[4] Background In the weeks leading up to the failure, extreme heat had caused power use to reach record levels in New Delhi. Due to the late arrival of monsoons, agricultural areas in Punjab and Haryana drew increased power from the grid for running irrigation pumps to paddy fields.[5] The late monsoon also meant that hydroelectric plants were generating less than their usual production.[6] Sequence of events 30 July At 02:35 IST (21:05 UTC on 29 July), a line feeding into the Agra-Bareilly transmission section, the 400 kV Bina-Gwalior line, tripped, triggering the collapse. All major electrical plants were shut down in the affected states, causing an estimated shortage of 32 GW.[7] Officials described the failure as "the worst in a decade".[8] On the day of the collapse, Power Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde stated that the exact cause of the failure was unknown, but that at the time of the failure, electricity use was "above normal". He speculated that some states had attempted to draw more power than permitted due to higher consumption. Spokesperson for Power Grid Corporation of India Limited (PGCIL) and the Northern Regional Load Dispatch Centre (NRLDC) stated that Uttar Pradesh, Punjab and Haryana were the states responsible for the overdraw. PGCIL's chairman also stated that electrical service was restored "at a record time".[7] A senior director for an Indian power company described the outage as "a fairly large breakdown that exposed major technical faults in India’s grid system. Something went terribly wrong which caused the backup safety systems to fail."[9] More than 300 million people, nearly 30% of India's population, were without power. Railways and some airports were shut down until 08:00[10] New Delhi's Indira Gandhi International Airport was able to remain open, however, as it switched to back-up power.[9] The outage caused "chaos" for Monday morning rush hour, as passenger trains were shut down and traffic signals were non-operational.[7] Trains stalled for three to five hours.[10] Several hospitals reported interruptions in health services,[7] while others relied on back-up generators.[8] Water treatment plants were shut down for several hours,[10] and millions were unable to draw water from wells powered by electric pumps.[5] The Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry of India stated that the blackout had "severely impacted" businesses, leaving many unable to operate.[11] Oil refineries were able to continue operating, however, as they maintained independent power supplies.[7] It took 15 hours to restore 80% of service.[9] 31 July The system failed again at 13:02 IST (07:32 UTC), due to a relay problem near the Taj Mahal.[12] As a result, power stations across the affected parts of India again went offline. NTPC Ltd. stopped 38% of its generation capacity.[13] Over 600 million people (nearly half of India's population), in 22 out of 28 states in India, were without power.[1] The following states were affected by the grid failure:[14]States on the northern grid: Delhi, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir, Punjab, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh, Uttarakhand.States on the eastern grid: Bihar, Jharkhand, Odisha, West BengalStates on the northeast grid: Arunanchal Pradesh, Assam, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland, Sikkim. More than 300 intercity passenger trains and commuter lines were shut down as a result of the power outage.[15][16] The worst affected zones in the wake of the power grid's collapse were Northern, North Central, East Central, and East Coast railway zones, with parts of Eastern, South Eastern and West Central railway zones. The Delhi Metro suspended service on all six lines as power tripped for the second consecutive day. Delhi Metro had to evacuate passengers from trains that stopped mid-journey. The Delhi Disaster Management Authority helped in this evacuation.[13] As result of this blackout, around 200 miners were trapped underground in eastern India due to lifts failing, but officials later said they had all been rescued.[17] The National Disaster Management Authority (NDMA), not normally mandated to investigate blackouts, began to do so because of the threat to basic infrastructure facilities like railways, metro rail system, lifts in multi-story buildings, and movement of vehicular traffic.[18] The Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry of India stated that the blackout had "severely impacted" businesses, leaving many unable to operate.[19] Oil refineries were able to continue operating, however, as they maintained independent power supplies.[7] Reactions On the day of the collapse, Power Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde ordered a three-member panel to determine the reason for the failure and report on it in fifteen days.[20] In response to criticism, he observed that India was not alone in suffering major power outages, as blackouts had also occurred in the United States and Brazil within the previous few years.[6] The Washington Post described the failure as adding urgency to Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's plan for a US$400 billion overhaul of India's power grid. His plan calls for a further 76 gigawatts of generation by 2017,[9] produced in part by nuclear power. Rajiv Kumar, secretary general of the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FICCI) said, "One of the major reasons for the collapse of the power grid is the major gap between demand and supply. There is an urgent need to reform the power sector and bring about infrastructural improvements to meet the new challenges of the growing economy."[21] http://en.wikipedia...._India_blackout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key2thecup Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQhXYtmDzS4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Current Indian PM is the father of the reform movement in India. He was finance minister in 1991 when India opened up their economy to the world. Since then India has been booming. His current attempts to open up more of the economy to privatizarion has been held back by leftists in his ruling coalition Congress Party. This will shock the people into calling for more reform. Not a bad thing for a couple of days without power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Once the power turned off while I was in India showering. Slipped, fell, hit my head on the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdawg Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Current Indian PM is the father of the reform movement in India. He was finance minister in 1991 when India opened up their economy to the world. Since then India has been booming. His current attempts to open up more of the economy to privatizarion has been held back by leftists in his ruling coalition Congress Party. This will shock the people into calling for more reform. Not a bad thing for a couple of days without power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key2thecup Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Great, can't wait for a country the size of BC but with 500 times the population to all drive to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Great, can't wait for a country the size of BC but with 500 times the population to all drive to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdawg Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 No kidding..........and apparently he`s not so great at psychiatry either as I have been diagnosed ``a Psychopath err Narcicist err Communist err a self deceiving Feminist`` Does that mean I`m better at numbers than the user in question. There is a rather large discrepency in those numbers, fer sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I only guessed at you being a psycopath, narcicist, communist or feminist. And I'm 100% confident that I hit one one of them or more bang on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaK Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Big deal... 1.6 Billion people did without power... In 1880 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdawg Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 The size of B.C.?? India = 3,287,590 km² B.C. = 944,735 km² And your math is off, which shouldn't be much of a shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdawg Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Nah, on second thought, I`ll let a moderator deal with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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