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[Hypothetical] It's 2017, Sedins are 36, What kind of return?


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#1 Strombone1

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:41 PM

I was reading an article talking about how Gillis is trying to rebuild and compete at the same time and it got me thinking... I would rather see a competing team for years to come without a cup than going all in this year for a cup and no future.

Lets fast forward to 2017. Assuming Sedins have resigned with us till then and they plan on playing till their 40s. Still productive but age is taking a toll on them like it would on anyone. We gotta think long term and make plans while they still have value.

Our GM at the time sees that it's time to trade the twins before they become too old and he's looking for prospects back. It wouldnt make sense to trade one of them and keep the other. I see him trading both.

What calibre prospects/players would we get for them at that age? Lets give examples of current prospects/rookies just to gauge their worth.


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For those certain a 100% about the Sedins retiring in Vancouver, here's a really bad google translation of an interview they did a while back.

http://allehanda.se/...m-ger-framgang-


Years back there need not be so very many more. Daniel and Henrik have always made it clear that they like to finish his career in Modo and it does not take much longer.

- We have three years left on contract and just feels like three more years there. But you do not know, you're fit and healthy, you might want to run one or two more years. But children can not be how old any time before they move home either

To stay in Vancouver is not the intent.
- We get on incredibly well and every time we are where we think "this one would be able to live" but once you get home you will feel that it is not even a possibility. E-bay is a perfect place to live, says Daniel continues:
- It is unique for hockey players to live in. You can go up and down the street without anyone caring, sometimes to ask someone for an autograph or picture, but it's just fun. If you are out with the family show people respect and you have to be left alone.
A life of attention is nothing Daniel Sedin are seeking. But nothing he can opt out as one of the world's best player in hockey craziest cities available.
- It's part of being a hockey player, but not something you seek. You learn to deal with it when you have 20 journalists who want to ask questions after each workout. But you always wonder how Peter and Mark have it, if it is just as much now that they have laid off or if it has calmed down. But we must take time.


and http://sverigesradio...artikel=3980127 if anyone can listen and translate

Edited by Strombone1, 31 July 2012 - 03:05 PM.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:45 PM

There is no way that the Sedins will ever play for another team. Ever!

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:47 PM

I don't see any reason to try to trade the twins. Of our Canucks with their jerseys retired, those in the hall of fame, and those in the ring of honour, how many have played their entire careers with the Canucks... just Smyl as far as I know. By 2017, the Sedins should be on top of the all-time leaderboards for the Canucks (I guess Hank has a long way to go to get to the goal-scoring lead). Let's remember that we have two special players here, and let them dictate the remainder of their careers (in other words, let them retire as Canucks).

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:48 PM

there has always been a quiet rumour slithering around the sedins that they would love to finish out their careers playing for MODO back in sweden

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:48 PM

The Sedin's will never be traded


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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:51 PM

The Sedin's will never be traded


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this is a hypothetical. so is your statement, "The Sedin's will never be traded".

for the sake of the discussion, lets think outside of the box and see what they could bring in should that day ever come.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:52 PM

I think the Sedins will be 2nd liners by then, around the 40-50 point range.

IF we trade both in a deal, I could see them fetching a first round pick and a defensive prospect such as Tanev/Sauve in return.

Edited by Tambellini's Wrist Shot, 31 July 2012 - 02:55 PM.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:53 PM

Depends entirely on what kind of players they are at that point
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:53 PM

I would say,
2 First round selections
Erik GudBranson
Nick Bjugstad
(At age 36)
Henrik = GB + 1
Daniel = Bjugstad + 1

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:56 PM

The Twins retire here... :canucks:
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:13 PM

I'd rather focus on how the Sedins do in 2012-2013.

Hypotheticals for 2017 will never pan out even remotely. It's like trying to predict the weather in Vancouver for Jan 27, 2017 when the "experts" can't even get tomorrow right half the time.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:17 PM

I would demand, (in todays market if they were in that hypothetical situation and we were trading them), from Pittsburgh
Crosby
Malkin
Neal
Letang
2 1sts

From Van
Sedin
Sedin

And if they didn't accept... they stay Canucks. :canucks:

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:18 PM

I was reading an article talking about how Gillis is trying to rebuild and compete at the same time and it got me thinking... I would rather see a competing team for years to come without a cup than going all in this year for a cup and no future.

Lets fast forward to 2017. Assuming Sedins have resigned with us till then and they plan on playing till their 40s. Still productive but age is taking a toll on them like it would on anyone. We gotta think long term and make plans while they still have value.

Our GM at the time sees that it's time to trade the twins before they become too old and he's looking for prospects back. It wouldnt make sense to trade one of them and keep the other. I see him trading both.

What calibre prospects/players would we get for them at that age? Lets give examples of current prospects/rookies just to gauge their worth.


EDIT:

For those certain a 100% about the Sedins retiring in Vancouver, here's a really bad google translation of an interview they did a while back.

http://allehanda.se/...m-ger-framgang-



and http://sverigesradio...artikel=3980127 if anyone can listen and translate


By 2017, the Sedins will have been thrown under the bus and will be blamed for every failure since the Luongo trade.

And Schneider will be backup in Boston because rabid Vancouver fans will have turned on him like zombies smelling brain.

Edited by GHL, 31 July 2012 - 03:21 PM.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:26 PM

if there is any sort of return it is a return to sweden for them, otherwise theyre Nucks for life

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:28 PM

By 2017, the Sedins will have been thrown under the bus and will be blamed for every failure since the Luongo trade.

And Schneider will be backup in Boston because rabid Vancouver fans will have turned on him like zombies smelling brain.


Someone is being a little dramatic :rolleyes:
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:30 PM

By 2017, the Sedins will have been thrown under the bus and will be blamed for every failure since the Luongo trade.

And Schneider will be backup in Boston because rabid Vancouver fans will have turned on him like zombies smelling brain.

If hes already a day walker is he still effected??
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:33 PM

I think the Sedins will be 2nd liners by then, around the 40-50 point range.

IF we trade both in a deal, I could see them fetching a first round pick and a defensive prospect such as Tanev/Sauve in return.


Two 40-50 point second liners for a first round pick and a Tanev/Sauve??? Really???

No thanks. lol

Edited by pistolpro327, 31 July 2012 - 03:33 PM.


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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:39 PM

by then, they'll have won us at least one cup, so they will never be traded



ever

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:10 PM

I just vomited.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:17 PM

Man, it's been a long offseason. :picard:

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:28 PM

At the age of 36, with cup rings filling a hand, they will return to mo®do®.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:30 PM

There is no reason to trade the twins and MG will never do it as long as he is here
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:32 PM

What kind of return?

A) This presumes they don't go home to MoDo after their contracts expire in 2014.
B) It's a pretty loose notion to suggest we would re-sign guys of the Sedins stature to trade them!

I was reading an article talking about how Gillis is trying to rebuild and compete at the same time and it got me thinking... I would rather see a competing team for years to come without a cup than going all in this year for a cup and no future.

Lets fast forward to 2017. Assuming Sedins have resigned with us till then and they plan on playing till their 40s. Still productive but age is taking a toll on them like it would on anyone. We gotta think long term and make plans while they still have value.

Our GM at the time sees that it's time to trade the twins before they become too old and he's looking for prospects back. It wouldnt make sense to trade one of them and keep the other. I see him trading both.

What calibre prospects/players would we get for them at that age? Lets give examples of current prospects/rookies just to gauge their worth.


EDIT:

For those certain a 100% about the Sedins retiring in Vancouver, here's a really bad google translation of an interview they did a while back.

http://allehanda.se/...m-ger-framgang-



and http://sverigesradio...artikel=3980127 if anyone can listen and translate



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Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:56 PM

If he's already a day walker is he still effected affected??


Fixed.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:05 PM

They're Alfredsons of our team, finish NHL career here.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:14 PM

Yeah, they'll finish their NHL carriers as Canucks, but they always have, and always will be MODO players at heart.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:28 PM

At the age of 36, with cup rings filling a hand, they will return to mo®do®.

They're from Mordor? I love it!

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:30 PM

They're both going to bolt to the KHL for the big bucks when their contract ends after the 2013/14 season.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:37 PM

There is no way that the Sedins will ever play for another team. Ever!


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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:44 PM

Sedins will retire as canucks - no need to even comment on why.




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