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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:02 PM

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As the NHL summer slowly creeps towards what we all hope will be a season that starts on time the Vancouver Canucks still have goalie Roberto Luongo on their roster. There has been a lot of chatter and assumptions that he will be traded before the season and nearly every hockey pundit is convinced that a likely landing spot for the talented goalie will be the Florida Panthers.
Luongo played there before and liked it, the fans there liked him, his wife is from Florida and the Canucks and Panthers have a long history of making deals together. So get it done already right?

Many people have speculatedthat the hold up in the deal is that Canucks General Manager Mike Gillis is demanding that the Panthers include their 2010 first round draft pick, Nick Bjugstad, as part of the deal. Florida, so far, is unwilling to part with the University of Minnesota forward and we find ourselves at the crossroads.

Just who is Bjugstad and why does Gillis want him so badly?

Bjugstad just completed his sophomore year at the University of Minnesota and scored 25 goals and 42 points in 40 games with the Gophers. Those numbers are surely enticing and so his Bjugstad’s size. He is listed at 6’5” and 212 pounds which fits the bigger and younger mold that Gillis has said he is after.



His game also fits the mold that Gillis and the Canucks like. He can play in all situations, kill penalties, play on the power play and takes care of his own end. The Canucks have been after more depth in their top six and Bjugstad definitely projects to be a top six forward.

The only draw back is that he won’t be in the NHL this coming season. Bjugstad will return to Minnesota for another year with the Gophers and if the Canucks were to land him they would at least have to wait until next season to see him in Rogers Arena. While bringing in BJugstad would be great for the future he would not help the Canucks this season.
Surely there would be other pieces coming back in such a trade but Bjugstad would be the key player.

The dilemma here is that the Canucks roster is built to win now and if they pull this trade off they will still be in desperate need for more scoring out of their top six. With the remaining free agent market made up entirely of Shane Doan and his tour of NHL clubs it is unclear where Vancouver is going to get the player they need for this season. Most people assumed they would address the forward situation through the Luongo trade. It does not appear that is what Gillis has in mind.
Should Gillis lower his demands for Luongo? Should he be looking for NHL ready players to win now?

There are some signs that the youth movement may be on in Vancouver. After the season Gillis made a point about getting younger and bigger which explains bringing in players like Zack Kassian, choosing to go with a younger goalie in Schneider and his pursuit for Bjugstad.

Gills may be trying to walk the tight rope of competing for a Cup and rebuilding at the same time.
A General Manager’s job is to win consistently and to do that you have to be able to look forward a bit for sure, but Gillis’ job is tough because he has a Stanley Cup roster whose window is starting to close. The Sedin twins are going to be 32, Ryan Kesler has started to appear injury prone and Alex Burrows is 31 and headed into his last contract year.

How much longer will Vancouver win with this lineup? It would seem that Gillis feels the roster, as it is, can win a Stanley Cup as he has not made any major moves that would suggest a panic or a feeling of lost hope.

Is that wise though?

At the end of last season the Canucks were a tired and worn out lot so on some level getting younger makes sense. However, if ‘younger’ means guys who are a year or two away from contributing is Gillis missing an opportunity here? Should he be selling the farm to win it all now, with this roster? Shouldn’t he be trying to acquire players who are NHL ready and can put the club over the top this season?

We will certainly find the answers to those questions this season.




Do we want a young asset like Bjugstad even if he doesn't get into the lineup this year but next, at the earliest?

Could we be alright, with perhaps adding Doan to the lineup only, and not looking for a play making top 6 foward, in hopes and expectation that once Kesler gets back and is 'up to speed' again, we should be stronger than last year to make another long playoff run?

I like Bjugstad. No question that in my mind, this kid has top 6 potential written all over him...and with the likes of Kassian, Jensen, Gaunce, Schroeder, Tanev, Connauton, we have a decent young core to build around and add in, in the near future(1-2 seasons after this one finishes)

Is Gillis right to hold out for a young bluechip asset like Bjugstad then? Or should he get the best veteran from FLA, or TOR, or CHI, if he can from any of those teams, and only think about the season coming up as our last kick at the can?

Personally, I don't mind if his patience translates into a Bjugstad or similarly decent prospect (Howden?)

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:06 PM

Bjugstad or bust.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:09 PM

I don't see any reasons why you wouldn't want a guy like Bjudstad, video speaks for itself
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:09 PM

why? because he is from Minnesota joining Schroeder and Labrete


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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:11 PM

i'll leave it up to gillis to figure out...he knows a lot more than us mutts....

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:12 PM

Well, Florida's initial proposal was Matthias + a 1st rounder in 2013 according to many insiders. According to them, if Canucks don't get Doan, they'll make a big push for Versteeg. If the Canucks do get Doan though, they will try to improve Florida's offer by adding Bjugstad. Florida is already heavy in centre depth, so IMO Tallon would be OK to part with him. But I see Tallon also ask for maybe a high pick or Schroeder.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:17 PM

Do we want a young asset like Bjugstad even if he doesn't get into the lineup this year but next, at the earliest?


Hell yes!

Could we be alright, with perhaps adding Doan to the lineup only, and not looking for a play making top 6 foward, in hopes and expectation that once Kesler gets back and is 'up to speed' again, we should be stronger than last year to make another long playoff run?


I think so, and there are some potential assets out there who could be acquired via trade or free agency.

I like Bjugstad. No question that in my mind, this kid has top 6 potential written all over him...and with the likes of Kassian, Jensen, Gaunce, Schroeder, Tanev, Connauton, we have a decent young core to build around and add in, in the near future(1-2 seasons after this one finishes)


True dat. :)

Is Gillis right to hold out for a young bluechip asset like Bjugstad then? Or should he get the best veteran from FLA, or TOR, or CHI, if he can from any of those teams, and only think about the season coming up as our last kick at the can?


Absolutely, but if he can swing both I'd be just a bit happier. :)

Personally, I don't mind if his patience translates into a Bjugstad or similarly decent prospect (Howden?)


Meh on Howden. Bjugstad or bust.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:19 PM

Well, Florida's initial proposal was Matthias + a 1st rounder in 2013 according to many insiders. According to them, if Canucks don't get Doan, they'll make a big push for Versteeg. If the Canucks do get Doan though, they will try to improve Florida's offer by adding Bjugstad. Florida is already heavy in centre depth, so IMO Tallon would be OK to part with him. But I see Tallon also ask for maybe a high pick or Schroeder.


I wouldn't mind Versteeg to be honest. Solid playoff addition. I'd still prefer it if we managed to pry Bjugstad. Although Versteeg is the better short term option and addition. Plus Tallon just re-signed him, so i'm not sure if he'd be willing to part with right away.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:22 PM

Not saying this is legit, but @insiderlegit is saying Canucks offered Lu, Raymond, Schroeder, and a pick to FLA for Matthias and Bjugstad.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:23 PM

Well, Florida's initial proposal was Matthias + a 1st rounder in 2013 according to many insiders. According to them, if Canucks don't get Doan, they'll make a big push for Versteeg. If the Canucks do get Doan though, they will try to improve Florida's offer by adding Bjugstad. Florida is already heavy in centre depth, so IMO Tallon would be OK to part with him. But I see Tallon also ask for maybe a high pick or Schroeder.


Matthias, Bjugstad and a 1st for Luongo and Schroeder? Yes please, although it seems to be a bit of an overpayment by Florida. Heck, I'd even be okay if Vancouver tossed in some additional assets (mostly picks) for a d-man prospect. May as well get all of your shopping done in one place.

I suspect that Tallon wouldn't want to give up Versteeg.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:23 PM

Moot as Florida isn't giving him up.

Nick is playing in college for the upcoming season, right?
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:25 PM

As long as Raymond is gone and Matthias is our 3rd line center...then I'm happy.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:27 PM

Not saying this is legit, but @insiderlegit is saying Canucks offered Lu, Raymond, Schroeder, and a pick to FLA for Matthias and Bjugstad.


Tell Tallon I said, "Take the deal, but if he wants to throw in Petrovic then that would be okay."

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:28 PM

Moot as Florida isn't giving him up.

Nick is playing in college for the upcoming season, right?



Yeah, final year in Minnesota i believe.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:29 PM

Florida will be OKAY giving him up, as they already have heavy depth at centre.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:29 PM

Moot as Florida isn't giving him up.

Nick is playing in college for the upcoming season, right?


Spoilsport.

I believe you are correct on Bjugstad being at U of Minnesota.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:37 PM

At OP: he's being compared (reasonably) to Ryan Getzlaf with the size and lugging skating style, but I see him more as a Jeff Carter, which could really benefit the team going forward.

Not saying this is legit, but @insiderlegit is saying Canucks offered Lu, Raymond, Schroeder, and a pick to FLA for Matthias and Bjugstad.


I wouldn't want that, I think we overpay. Sure, both those guys have upside but who trades a starting goalie, a 3rd line winger with 2nd line potential, another scoring prospect and a pick for a 3rd line checking center (granted with upside still) and another blue chip prospect?

If anything I would hold to the team's demands of young roster player and pick or decent prospect. Glad to see MG holding to his leverage of having the starter that other teams need; just because the other GM's don't talk about it (holding their cards tight to their chest) it doesn't mean guys like Burke or Tallon don't want to get the upgrade; I hope MG could make Dale fold and include Nick in the deal.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:42 PM

I wouldn't mind Versteeg to be honest. Solid playoff addition. I'd still prefer it if we managed to pry Bjugstad. Although Versteeg is the better short term option and addition. Plus Tallon just re-signed him, so i'm not sure if he'd be willing to part with right away.

You mean signed to an entry level deal? I think he was only drafted in 2010.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:54 PM

I would rather have Gudbranson over Bjudstad. Gudbranson is gonna be huge when he matures, plays physical.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:56 PM

Not saying this is legit, but @insiderlegit is saying Canucks offered Lu, Raymond, Schroeder, and a pick to FLA for Matthias and Bjugstad.

I'd do it only if the pick isn't a 1st.

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:59 PM

You mean signed to an entry level deal? I think he was only drafted in 2010.


Sharpshooter meant Versteeg. He recently resigned a 4 year/$17.6 million contract, to avoid arbitration.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:00 PM

You mean signed to an entry level deal? I think he was only drafted in 2010.

I think he means that Tallon just re-signed Versteeg.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:01 PM

bjugstad is without a doubt an A level, cant miss prospect.

i remember when he was drafted and the tsn crew labled him as a bit of a project, lol boy were they off with that.

many people think hes ready to play in nhl next season in fact florida did want him to play next season.

the fact that hes going back to school for another year is of his own free choice. FYI he will be in the nhl for the 2013/2014 season

i would absolutly be thrilled if mg got him. he his worth waiting to get in a deal

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:03 PM

I think he means that Tallon just re-signed Versteeg.

I see
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:05 PM

I don't see any reasons why you wouldn't want a guy like Bjudstad, video speaks for itself


Didn't you read the article?

The reason why the Canucks wouldn't really want Bjugstad is because he's not going to help them NOW, which is what this team should care about solely. If a Cup isn't won in the next year, MAYBE two, get ready for a decade of misery. May as well go balls out when we have two of the best offensive players in the NHL.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:07 PM

According to them, if Canucks don't get Doan, they'll make a big push for Versteeg.


Canucks don't like Versteeg. Gallagher said it on the radio today. Probably stems from his Blackhawk days.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:08 PM

This guy is a perfect fit, BIG and Young thats the direction we need to start going
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:09 PM

I would rather have Gudbranson over Bjudstad. Gudbranson is gonna be huge when he matures, plays physical.


so would everybody else, but he's basically untouchable.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:10 PM

Get R done MG.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:15 PM

Jensen-Bjugstad-Kassian

That's a much scarier line than

Schroeder-Hodgson-Grabner


Maybe MG knows what he's doing?

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