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#1 DonTaylor4President

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:15 PM

So my first idea was Ballard, Raymond and a 2013 1st for Yakupov but then I didn't want to be too mainstream CDC so I switched it up. This is a trade I would look into if we miss out on Doan, and if we don't get back a top six forward in the luongo deal. Haven't put too much thought into this one but here it goes...



To Vancouver

Hemsky


To Edmonton

Ballard



I know everyone throws ballard into trades like no other but I feel that both teams are trading away overpaid players that they no longer need. With all of the oilers up and coming forwards paying an injury prone Hemsky 5M per year hardly makes sense. Yakupov, Hall, Eberle, Smyth and maybe even Jones will compete to be top six wingers around Nuge and Gagner... So they would be replacing one of their many wingers for a top four D man.

The Canucks get the more talented player out of the trade but his injury history speaks for itself. Although Canucks are looking to get bigger, adding a pass first player to play with Keslers and Booths scoring abilities might ignite the line and would be too hard to resist.

Should these teams look into this after the Doan and Yandle sweepstakes are over?

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:18 PM

Hemsky is soft and injuried prone

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:30 PM

So my first idea was Ballard, Raymond and a 2013 1st for Yakupov but then I didn't want to be too mainstream CDC so I switched it up. This is a trade I would look into if we miss out on Doan, and if we don't get back a top six forward in the luongo deal. Haven't put too much thought into this one but here it goes...



To Vancouver

Hemsky


To Edmonton

Ballard



I know everyone throws ballard into trades like no other but I feel that both teams are trading away overpaid players that they no longer need. With all of the oilers up and coming forwards paying an injury prone Hemsky 5M per year hardly makes sense. Yakupov, Hall, Eberle, Smyth and maybe even Jones will compete to be top six wingers around Nuge and Gagner... So they would be replacing one of their many wingers for a top four D man.

The Canucks get the more talented player out of the trade but his injury history speaks for itself. Although Canucks are looking to get bigger, adding a pass first player to play with Keslers and Booths scoring abilities might ignite the line and would be too hard to resist.

Should these teams look into this after the Doan and Yandle sweepstakes are over?

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:32 PM

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:34 PM

I would rather have a highly overpaid D man who will actually play some games in the season then a forward who is as soft as a soup sandwich.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:44 PM

Hemsky's too predictable in terms of how he plays (high risk dangles and soft, skill-based and passing game without shooting enough). He could really benefit the 2nd line but he costs a lot salary-wise and could cost the team even more if he gets injured (he costs $5M). I'd rather see if there is a player who could shoot AND pass than someone who is almost always exclusively pass.

Ballard could probably still bring a hardier, more playoff-oriented player with grit, or better yet sign Shane Doan.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:24 PM

Edmonton would never do this.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:30 PM

Gotta love CDC. In the same week, we see one proposal with Hemsky for Yandle and now we see Hemsky for Ballard.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:47 PM

Ballard is a solid no. 5 dman and he can step into the top 4 if one of Garrison, Bieksa, Hamhuis, or Edler gets hurt.

If we are going to trade him we should get back probably a third line center which fills one of our needs
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:51 PM

1. Why would the Oilers do this? Hemsky > Ballard, by far.

2. The Canucks don't need another soft, perimeter forward.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:20 PM

1. Why would the Oilers do this? Hemsky > Ballard, by far.

2. The Canucks don't need another soft, perimeter forward.

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Hemsky is fragile and not a soft perimeter player. That's why he's hurt so much. He actually needs to start playing a little softer.

As for the trade. Hemsky may be overpaid at 5M but it's a short term deal. His contract expires the same year as RNH's. The Oilers would also be selling extremely low. Hemsky has been a just under point per game player every year since the lockout except for last year. One year and all is forgotten? Not for me. He gets another chance. If he plays the way he's capable of, a 65-75 point RWer isn't a bad player to have on the 2nd line. You don't give up Hemsky for a bottom pairing Dman.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:47 PM

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:14 AM

Hemsky is soft and injuried prone

Didn't he also get a 5m payday or was that Horcoff?

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:13 AM

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Thanks, I really needed a luagh.


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Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:09 PM

He would be nice to get but he's too injury prone

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:14 PM

Hemsky is fragile and not a soft perimeter player. That's why he's hurt so much. He actually needs to start playing a little softer.

As for the trade. Hemsky may be overpaid at 5M but it's a short term deal. His contract expires the same year as RNH's. The Oilers would also be selling extremely low. Hemsky has been a just under point per game player every year since the lockout except for last year. One year and all is forgotten? Not for me. He gets another chance. If he plays the way he's capable of, a 65-75 point RWer isn't a bad player to have on the 2nd line. You don't give up Hemsky for a bottom pairing Dman.


I guess you didn't read my post fully or you are agreeing with me... I'm not sure which.

I agree with everything you are saying, dude. :)

Like I said in point 1, no way do the Oilers do this trade!

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:32 PM

If this was 2005, maybe. But who wants a weak forward whose better years are behind him? Forget it.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:54 PM

Ballard has more worth to us than Hemsky does
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:04 PM

Ballard has more worth to us than Hemsky does

Ballard has negative value.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:50 PM

Ballard has negative value.


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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:26 PM

I have a better suggestion.

Ballard

for Colten Teubert plus a 3rd or 4th round pick.

It might nudge Edmonton close to the cap, but we get a Right Handed 6'4" almost ready prospect. Edmonton gets an experienced guy who is under contract and can help Schultz adjust to the NHL. Win-win if you ask me.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 02:13 PM

Very fair proposal except that if we get rid of ballard we need a good d man via trade or free agency.

great proposl tho
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:06 PM

Yakupov is staying put in Edmonton... you can be sure of that. ;)
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