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[Report] Shane Doan is in Van today meeting with Canucks

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I don't disagree that signing Doan is a serious risk at the dollars suggested? Also remember; signing a 35 year old means his salary stays on the cap even if he retires.

But calling Burrows a power forward is like calling a midget porn star King Kong! It matters little the amount of vigour! :P

Sure Burrows plays a hard game, very, very similar to Brown to be fair. But Brown out weighs him by 20 lbs. It makes a difference!

Bang on. Yes Doan is tempting but signing this guy to a 4 year deal is a death-wish. Not only is he old, but his style of play means he won't last much longer than 1 or 2 seasons let alone 4.

Besides, the Canucks have enough top-6 powerforwards and not enough skilled top-6 players. Right now we have 2 purely skill top-6 forwards in the Sedins and 4 powerforwards in Kesler, Booth, Higgins and Burrows. The key to playoff success is having a good mix of each right throughout the lineup, instead we have all skilled guys on our top line and 3 powerforwards on the other. With Doan coming in the balance is even more askew.

Just look at last seasons playoffs. We had 1 purely skilled top-6 forward in Henrik and the rest powerforwards. Not enough chemistry, and we couldn't score. Meanwhile the Kings had the perfect mix of skill and powerforwards on each line, with Richards, Kopitar, Carter, Gagne on the top 3 lines as the skilled players, and Brown, Richards, Penner, King and Stoll. That's a perfect split, ours is not, and by getting Doan we're only getting even MORE one dimensional and easier to defend against.

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Those are some crazy "what if's"... there more of a chance that he doesn't play for the full term and we get whacked with his cap hit and it costs us the cup because we can't re-sign one of our players or get a key free agent.

You can't run an organization by figuring out the remotest possibilities and then chasing them to the detriment of all other options. You have to balance risk/eward and determine what will work best.

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It's between New York and Vancouver. Philly and San Jose are long shots.

Frankly, I see Doan choosing Vancouver.

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You guys are so freaking short cited.

When 2014-15 comes around and we have a 37 year old Doan coming off a 15 goal, 33 point season on contract for 2 more years at 6 million a year (in a much reduced cap thanks to a new CBA), these same posters will be calling for his head.

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Reading some of the posts here and in the past about players and what they are worth - saying don't pay over $6 million for example - so say we offer him $5.5 and he counters with $6.2 and we say no - he then signs with say the Flyers for $6.2 and the Flyers win the cup.  Wow - more a measely $700 thousand (compared to what these players make overall) we could have had him and maybe we would have won the cup?

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Signing Doan: How exactly would that 'screw the future?'

The cap always goes up and the ability to sign key UFA's is a huge plus for a franchise.

I don't think we will, but it's pretty exciting if we do. I think he has a fair amount of gas left in the tank.

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I dont understand how people can say Sharks are big players in the Doan situation. After waiting this long for PHX to figure its crap out, and being so loyal. Why in the world would he sign with a team within the yotes division and play them 6-8 times a year or whatever and compete with them for a playoff spot. That just doesnt make any sense to me whatsoever. I say its Van, Philly or Buffalo (just cause Buffalo offered that ludacris contract). Thats if he doesnt end up staying with the yotes.

Just the way ive been looking at it.

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The Kings had a lot of luck winning that cup -- no injuries, everything clicking at the right time. Remember they just snuck into the playoffs. Flame away, but I think Vancouver is a better run club than LA.

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You guys are so freaking short cited.

When 2014-15 comes around and we have a 37 year old Doan coming off a 15 goal, 33 point season on contract for 2 more years at 6 million a year (in a much reduced cap thanks to a new CBA), these same posters will be calling for his head.

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This sounds like another CDC "it's something different so I want it" but if a cup is not won in two years I will turn on the player so fast and run them out of town.

Another "If MG doesn't get it done he's an awful GM" but if he does sign him then in a couple years say "Why did GMMG sign an old player to a ridiculous contract!".

Doan is a good player and a great leader but he is past his prime and if the Canucks don't land him I think there will be other opportunities down the road. It's like Canuck fans are always so desperate to land something new just for the excitement of it and then bitch and complain when they don't single handedly win them the cup.

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always be optimistic because if we sign Doan and win the cup then all of you out there Doan bashing will look like complete idiots and in a small sense (albeit small) it will be a bitter sweet victory because you doubted that it would happen. Just a little food for thought.

edit: also, if Doan and others can still play the game and contribute at the ripe age of 36 then that means we have 5-6 years left with our core no? Just saying...

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always be optimistic because if we sign Doan and win the cup then all of you out there Doan bashing will look like complete idiots and in a small sense (albeit small) it will be a bitter sweet victory because you doubted that it would happen. Just a little food for thought.

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I still don't see him signing here with his ridiculous idea of how much he thinks is worth.

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I'm just giving you narrow-minded, tunnel-visionned fans another perspective and way to think of the situation. People on these boards rarely think of the big picture and need to analyze events a bit deeper. Don't just look at Doan as a great, hard working player and say "I WANT HIM", think like a rational adult the way MG is and keep the team in mind.

You think the Canucks have no powerforwards in their top 6? Go tell that to the hard-hitting, gritty forechecking wingers like Booth and Higgins who IMO out-played Doan last season despite injuries. Go tell that to Burrows who was one of the only players along with Perry in the last few seasons to rack up as many goals and PIMs as he did. Go tell that to Kesler who won a Selke and is pretty much the definition of a power forward.

And that's not even mentioning guys like Lapierre, Hansen and Kassian who are just as much powerforwards as the other 4 out of our top-6.

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why should Doan come here when we boo own player and chase them out of town not to mention two riots in the city and awful fans

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Agreed. Good player but the cost is rediculous. Although, if we know where we stand with Doan, a Luongo trade will develop finnally.

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