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#61 dorrcoq

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:05 PM

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Id rather have Schroder run the 3rd line and our 2nd unit Powerplay..Signing Arnott will stunt his development.


Genetics stunted his development
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:07 PM

we "arnott" going to sign Jason Arnott. Not because he isn't valuble, but because he doesn't fit into their long term plan. The Canucks are trying to get younger, and build a contending team for years to come. Shane Doan is the kind of guy that can help this team win now and is hungry and is still an effective player. Arnott's best years are behind him and he's won a Cup before so he won't have the same drive as everyone else. The team doesn't need a guy who is just looking to just finish out his career. They need someone the team wants to play for, someone who can contribute both on and off the ice. The players that come to mind that fit this category are Shane Doan and Jarome Iginla

So now you can read the minds of players?
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:09 PM

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i have a hunch that if doan/arnott is an either/or situation, it's not because of their respective ages but because acquiring doan means the canucks will get a 3rd line center in the inevitable luongo deal, and if they don't sign doan they'll get a 2nd line right wing. my SUPER hunch is that the canucks have two deals in principle with the panthers reflecting my theory, one involving matthias and one involving versteeg, and both hinging on shane doan choosing a team.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:11 PM

And I'm sure what you say does.


You are correct. It does.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 05:02 PM

He will provide the same leadership as Doan for 5 million less per season

Age does not always equal leadership
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 05:14 PM

Age does not always equal leadership


he's been a team captain, has almost 1000 career points and has scored a stanley cup winning double overtime goal. i think he'd be adequate.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 05:17 PM

I like Arnott. Didnt get to see him play much last season though. Does he still have it?


He can still put up 20 goals. He'll be good.

I'm pretty excited to hear the Canucks are interested in Arnott, I've been touting him for weeks on here and I think he'd be a great 3rd line center for us. He's huge, has gone all the way to the cup and is a grizzled veteran, and he still has an offensive upside in that he can score 20 goals. He could also play 2nd line center if Kesler misses time at the beginning of the season.

Edited by Moonshinefe, 01 August 2012 - 05:30 PM.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 05:49 PM

He can still put up 20 goals. He'll be good.

I'm pretty excited to hear the Canucks are interested in Arnott, I've been touting him for weeks on here and I think he'd be a great 3rd line center for us. He's huge, has gone all the way to the cup and is a grizzled veteran, and he still has an offensive upside in that he can score 20 goals. He could also play 2nd line center if Kesler misses time at the beginning of the season.


Indeed.

Assuming Arnott did play to the level of last season, he would be a great asset to this team. Between his physical play, point production, face-off ability and being defensively responsible, the Canucks would have a third line that folks dreamed Hodgson was capable of centering (with Higgins and Hansen on the wings).

The only significant issue with Arnott is that he would be a 35+ plus contract, so if he wants more than one year then that might cause the Canucks to think twice.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

Yes sign both amd make the canucks even slower and older. The canucks were exposed by LA last year, they could not keep up with the speed of LA and now we talk about adding 2 old guys??? Look at the canucks line up with those guys in, the canucks have to be the oldest team in the league then.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:24 PM

Get 1 of them and Ill be ok. As long Kassian and Pinnizotto can play
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:43 PM

You are correct. It does.


you are correct. It does. To yourself that is...
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Benning will be fired next year. Hope he enjoys screwing around for a few months. I just cant believe this. Another injured BC player. We just got rid of garrison. Seems like the canucks and linden just wanted any BC born player. Doesn't matter if hes good or not. We don't need another Linden to get us to game 7 of the Stanley cup and lose. We need someone to win us a cup.

5 million a year for Vrbata? 6 million for Miller? Kesler for Bonino and 24th instead of 10th pick or one of their top prospects? Garrison for scraps?

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:57 PM

Hahah we wouldnt get BOTH Doan and Arnott, at best 1, but knowing MG, we'll get neither and just be okay with it.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:59 PM

i have a hunch that if doan/arnott is an either/or situation, it's not because of their respective ages but because acquiring doan means the canucks will get a 3rd line center in the inevitable luongo deal, and if they don't sign doan they'll get a 2nd line right wing. my SUPER hunch is that the canucks have two deals in principle with the panthers reflecting my theory, one involving matthias and one involving versteeg, and both hinging on shane doan choosing a team.


Makes some sense to me but Versteeg to Matthias is a pretty large drop off in terms of value. Please tell me there's a couple of high draft picks coming back with Matthias in that scenario...

The other thing to consider: Can Tallon really afford to give up one of his 1st liners and remove the insulation a Versteeg provides for that popgun offence in FLA? Excess pressure to put up offensive numbers at an early age has ruined many a prospect before...
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Kassian.... Taylor Pyatt 3.0

Lies. He's more of a Steve Bernier. Hopefully his talent level goes up so he can become like a Taylor Pyatt.


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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:10 PM

Arnott would be a great pick up for the third line
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:31 PM

Yikes, not so happy to hear this.

If they're going to have a 3rd line centre who they'll have to shelter, they're better off putting Schroeder there IMO. Arnotts not a tough minutes centre. Last yr he got inflated zone starts (something that will not happen in Van), and got a fair chuck of PP time (not likely to happen in Van). On the positive side, he's a plus possession player and can he move to the wing if necessary.

Hopefully they sign Doan cause I'd rather not see Arnott.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:36 PM


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Vancouver Canucks :: Canucks, Arnott talking contracthttp://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/van120801.html

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:08 PM

Doan and Arnott would both be good additions at the right price.

I would, however, rather see the club start getting our youth into some meaningful, NHL hockey games. Schroeder, by all accounts, improved his 2-way game dramatically over the course of last season. Kassian and Jensen both have bodies that can handle some games. How about Rodin?

It seems on CDC it's always about who are we going sign or trade for rather than who are we going to bring up or give a shot? The whole player development model is a crap shoot. How can a player get better without playing at a higher (NHL) level vs. how can the Canucks get better by playing inexperienced kids vs. how do players get NHL experience without playing meaningful minutes in the NHL?

Call in the kids, I say. Give 'em a shot to succeed or fail. It's hard to learn without failing, no?

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:12 PM

Makes some sense to me but Versteeg to Matthias is a pretty large drop off in terms of value. Please tell me there's a couple of high draft picks coming back with Matthias in that scenario...

The other thing to consider: Can Tallon really afford to give up one of his 1st liners and remove the insulation a Versteeg provides for that popgun offence in FLA? Excess pressure to put up offensive numbers at an early age has ruined many a prospect before...


If he has a solid goaltender in the net who will steal games now and then for the team, yes.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:17 PM

I made a post about getting Arnott, I think he'd be a great acquisition. He would fill the void till Kes becomes one hundred percent healthy, then could make our third line more skillful and "large."

We will need to trade Lu and Raymond before this can happen unfortunately, as for getting both? Why not, that whole getting younger thing is ridiculous.. Especially if it's only a one year contract for Arnott. I want to win, "getting younger" can happen when the opportunity arises, I really don't see any of those atm. :mellow:
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:39 PM

I think Arnott would actually be a better sign. less term, less money, and as a center and good faceoff guy would help us out quite a bit in kesler's absence
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:58 PM

In so many ways does signing Arnott not make sense.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:42 PM


TheFourthPeriod News ‏@TFPnews

Vancouver Canucks :: Canucks, Arnott talking contracthttp://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/van120801.html


Lol. I like how Wade Arnott saying, "There have been some preliminary discussions" = headline of "Canucks and Arnott talk contract" to The 4th period
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:54 PM

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:02 PM

Lol. I like how Wade Arnott saying, "There have been some preliminary discussions" = headline of "Canucks and Arnott talk contract" to The 4th period


he also said Jason realizes he is at the stage where one year deals are the reality.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:33 PM

While I think this is an acceptable band-aid for the 2nd line until Kes gets back and a good option 2nd unit PP Center...

...not sure I like the idea of Arnott being the 3rd line C, he doesn't have the wheels to keep up with Higgins and Hansen... I like Lappy on the 3rd line, those guys have a lot of energy together.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:36 PM

Say we get Bjugstad in the Luongo deal, he is commited to playing another year in College right? Arnott would be a good temporary 3rd line centre next season.

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Doan
Higgins - Arnott - Hansen
Weise - Lappiere - Kassian

Malhotra buy out or waivers.


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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:44 PM

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:47 PM

Arnott would be a great asset for the team. He knows how to win and he scored a cup clincher goal.

A leader on and off the ice, I would love to has this old dog. I think he is still hungry for another shot at a cup and will prove to be an asset.

I don't think Schroeder is anywhere to being NHL ready. He needs top 6 minutes to flourish.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:54 PM

Jason Arnott is notorious for being the opposite of a role model , leader type of guy! He hates young players on his team and in the league because he feels they are trying to takeover his job..He would not be good in the dressing room around guys like Kassian Jensen Schroeder.

Say no to him.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:59 PM

Jason Arnott is notorious for being the opposite of a role model , leader type of guy! He hates young players on his team and in the league because he feels they are trying to takeover his job..He would not be good in the dressing room around guys like Kassian Jensen Schroeder.

Say no to him.


source? never heard that b4 but interesting if true.
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