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#31 Dion Phaneuf

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:54 PM

Pretty sure it's 5.5/yr.
* GMMB can't be that dumb
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#32 needtogetswole

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:58 PM

he got scott gomez on his team - yes he made that acquisition - he is that dumb.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 01:17 PM

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he got scott gomez on his team - yes he made that acquisition - he is that dumb.


Actually Gainey made that acquisition. LONG before Bergevin joined the Montreal organization in May.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 01:24 PM

Funny how the op edited out the part of the story that says Subban's agent denied the report

"Subban's representatives denied the report to Quebec sports network TVA Sports and maintained that nothing was imminent. "I don't see anything being done in the short term," Subban's Newport agent Mark Guy told TVA Sports on Wednesday afternoon. "These deals are difficult and take time."
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 01:40 PM

He will be an Oiler...

watch.

I could see this actually. The question is, what do the Oilers give up?
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 01:53 PM

I could see this actually. The question is, what do the Oilers give up?


Shultz... haha
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 01:57 PM

This is called negotiation. You don't start at your maximum price.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 01:58 PM

He's a cancer in the locker room LOL. Can you unveil which Canadien player you are?

But seriously this is serious underpayment. I think Subban still needs to prove himself a bit more though, so maybe like 3 years @12 million or 2 years. Whatever floats Bergevin's boat


You do realize that he's been in multiple fights/scraps with his teammates in practices right?
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:02 PM

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I think the locker room cancer rumors are false.. Camelleri made one comment and was traded. Pk would of been gone by now if that were true.

I see a fierce competitor who gives 110% every shift and in practice. I think the fights in practice are a product of that. This guy wants to win and wants to win bad. Personally I'd love a guy like him to get in Raymond's face at practice and say go to the effing net. Intensity like that rubs off on guys and gets them to step up their game.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:24 PM

how did he get lowballed? He's a cancer in the locker room, his points can easily be replaced by a visnovsky type guy for the same amount, and two years gives him a chance to EARN those big bucks, unlike all the one-hit wonders who are making Crosby money for the next ten years.


How do you know he's a cancer in the locker room? I've met P.K and he's a great guy! He's probably one of the nicest hockey players i've ever met!
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:37 PM

He's a cancer in the locker room LOL. Can you unveil which Canadien player you are?

But seriously this is serious underpayment. I think Subban still needs to prove himself a bit more though, so maybe like 3 years @12 million or 2 years. Whatever floats Bergevin's boat


I'd really like to hear how Plekanec, Darche, Leblanc and Desharnais honestly feel about him.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:50 PM

I'd really like to hear how Plekanec, Darche, Leblanc and Desharnais honestly feel about him.


Several hab players have stuck up for Subban with the media, including Gill, who supposedly chewed Subban out in the locker room. People take things out of context and make mountains out of molehills. PK practices as hard as he plays and sometimes tempers get ruffled.

As for Plekanec http://prohockeytalk...-things-happen/
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:53 PM

Mtl better buck up or he'll head Streit outta there.

Their best healthy d-man could end up being Kaberle at some point next season.


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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:01 PM

Several hab players have stuck up for Subban with the media, including Gill, who supposedly chewed Subban out in the locker room. People take things out of context and make mountains out of molehills. PK practices as hard as he plays and sometimes tempers get ruffled.

As for Plekanec http://prohockeytalk...-things-happen/


Not quite sure what else you'd expect Plekanec to say in a media release.

These things happen, sure, but name me one other player in the league that it happened to 4 times in one year. Where there's smoke...
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:39 PM

It's low but PK's personality is what makes it so hard to get a deal done.

You do not know PK Subban, so for you to say your comment is "low" is wrong. What your comment is, is stupid.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:15 PM

This is called negotiation. You don't start at your maximum price.


No but you don't lowball Subban either unless you're in an arbitration meeting. It's not close to a fair deal.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:23 PM

The Marchand hit was insane.Plain and simple.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:34 PM

Are they supposed to offer him "fair" money right off the bat? No.

This doesn't mean that Montreal isn't willing to pay Subban more than what they initially offered...they just want him at the most reasonable price possible. Yeah, totally moronic. :rolleyes:
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:45 PM

All Subban is Grags getting 20 minutes a game on a garbage team
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:33 PM

But... Thats only 40 Escalades a season! WITHOUT CHROME WHEELS OR GRILLS!


.... BEFORE TAX!

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:04 AM

Would you trade Edler for Subban +?

I personally would, he's definitely a more fierce competitor and has that right hand shot.

Also, we could probably sign him for cheaper long term than Edler.

Edler would command upwards of 5 mill, meanwhile, I can see Subban signing long-term for a 3.5-4mill cap hit.

What'd ya think?!??
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:22 AM

Would you trade Edler for Subban +?

I personally would, he's definitely a more fierce competitor and has that right hand shot.

Also, we could probably sign him for cheaper long term than Edler.

Edler would command upwards of 5 mill, meanwhile, I can see Subban signing long-term for a 3.5-4mill cap hit.

What'd ya think?!??


As a Montreal fan I wouldn't make that trade. Subban is younger, more physical, is Montreal's only right hand shot in their top 4, has put up comparable numbers to Edler on a weaker team, and is rfa. Edler is bigger and put up better numbers last year, but has had a history of back injuries, is a left hand shot, and is ufa next year
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:23 AM

Luongo, Edler and Schroeder


Price, Subban and Alex Galchenyuk. :)

Then move Price and a second for Seabrook.

Hehe.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:01 PM

Luongo, Edler and Schroeder


Price, Subban and Alex Galchenyuk. :)

Then move Price and a second for Seabrook.

Hehe.

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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:04 PM

Only 2 years? That's what surprises me most
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 10:31 PM

Only 2 years? That's what surprises me most


According to Subban's agent the report is completely inaccurate
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Posted 03 August 2012 - 11:05 AM

He's a number 1 defenseman. I would trade for him easily or offersheet him. 36 mil for 6 yrs? He is going to be a much better defenseman than Edler and if we can get him we can let Edler walk or trade him at the deadline. He gets into fights because he has passion, something the Canucks lack, mostly Edler as you saw in last year's playoffs. Bring on the Hate Edler lovers.
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Posted 03 August 2012 - 06:05 PM

I would at a hockey and contract level. Edler is currently better than Subban, however we have left side depth and are missing the physical side Subban could offer. And Subban has a higher upside (as well as his runoured attitude adjustment requirements, but he is young).

But there is always something to be said for legacy. It would be great to keep a guy like Edler here through his career, much like keeping a good team together.

In the end, unless i dont think I can sign Edler, I keep him.

Would you trade Edler for Subban +?

I personally would, he's definitely a more fierce competitor and has that right hand shot.

Also, we could probably sign him for cheaper long term than Edler.

Edler would command upwards of 5 mill, meanwhile, I can see Subban signing long-term for a 3.5-4mill cap hit.

What'd ya think?!??


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Posted 03 August 2012 - 06:33 PM

I definitely need a clue on this... Maybe I haven't seen enough Canucks games, but I sincerely fail to see how everyone is willing to get rid of Edler. I'm from Montréal, and have seen Subban quite often; in all honesty, I think Edler is a way more physical and intimidating player to play against. I also think he's more reliable defensively. (I might get flamed for this, but what the heck) To me Edler is the second coming of Ohlund, minus the leadership, that I hope he can develop soon enough.

Like I was saying though, as I lack some Canucks games' viewing, feel free to input some thoughts...
Cheers!

Edited by dorobo, 03 August 2012 - 08:14 PM.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 07:55 PM

PK is pretty good but he hasn't cracked 40pts in the NHL yet. I could see him signing 3.5-4.5mil just because of the other things he brings to the ice and his potential to improve.
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