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RUPERTKBD Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I knew before coming into this thread that it was going to be an over the top Messier hate-fest. I'm pleasantly surprised to see a few voices of reason. (TOM, Bodee, Boudrias, Shifty) The fact is, Messier's biggest crime when he came here was not being the Mark Messier that he used to be. That's not surprising, considering he was 36 years old. Let's inject a little reality into the discussion, shall we? Messier average 54 pts over his three years here. Not bery good, I agree. However, he didn't exactly light it up after returning to NY, as some people claim. His average point total in the 3 years after leaving Vancouver was 43 pts. Clearly, this was a player who was in decline. Vancouver fans are upset because his decline coincided with his signing by the Canucks. I'm sure it's not what Messier wanted either. Those who claim he was floating through his time in Vancouver really have no basis for saying so, other than his point totals. Those prove nothing but a decline in ability. And please don't give me the old "did you watch him play?" routine. I'm reasonably certain that no-one here has watched the Canucks longer that I have. The fact is, I watch without a jaundiced eye. Messier's time here was not great for the team, but it isn't his fault the Canucks offered him that deal and if he's owed money, he's owed money. That's my 2 cents. You can all go back to your hate-fest now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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canucks top scorer Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 WT**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I knew before coming into this thread that it was going to be an over the top Messier hate-fest. I'm pleasantly surprised to see a few voices of reason. (TOM, Bodee, Boudrias, Shifty) The fact is, Messier's biggest crime when he came here was not being the Mark Messier that he used to be. That's not surprising, considering he was 36 years old. Let's inject a little reality into the discussion, shall we? Messier average 54 pts over his three years here. Not bery good, I agree. However, he didn't exactly light it up after returning to NY, as some people claim. His average point total in the 3 years after leaving Vancouver was 43 pts. Clearly, this was a player who was in decline. Vancouver fans are upset because his decline coincided with his signing by the Canucks. I'm sure it's not what Messier wanted either. Those who claim he was floating through his time in Vancouver really have no basis for saying so, other than his point totals. Those prove nothing but a decline in ability. And please don't give me the old "did you watch him play?" routine. I'm reasonably certain that no-one here has watched the Canucks longer that I have. The fact is, I watch without a jaundiced eye. Messier's time here was not great for the team, but it isn't his fault the Canucks offered him that deal and if he's owed money, he's owed money. That's my 2 cents. You can all go back to your hate-fest now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 It's too bad that the current Canucks administration is saddled with the lack of foresight of the previous one.Maybe McCaw should cough up half of the 6m? Regardless of how well Messier played here,a contract is a contract....even though it brings back bad memories of an era we're all trying to forget about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I was the biggest Messier fan prior to his arrival here. Great resume, great leadership, nasty edge, power forward and still a top producer. I thought for sure we were going to win the Stanley Cup. I mean he had Bure and Mogilny, both in their primes! Was going to be the best line in hockey!! I bought an ice pack the first year he was here and felt like it was the biggest waste of money. Messier floated, never hit anyone, didn't skate hard, never tried. Messier was like today's Raymond in terms of not going anywhere near the front of the net, a part of his game that made him successful in the past. He looked horrible and was a huge let down. Since his tenure here, I have hated this guy and will do so every time his name is brought up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thema Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 What a crock of $#!@..........should have been a penny and nothing more. And counter-sued for damages for all he was responsible for doing (not doing)........here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 So the Canucks should reneg on a legal contract that they were stupid enough to sign (I mean really, who actually thought that the Canucks wouldn't increase in value over those three years?). And I have to ask; what exactly would be the basis of your counter suit against Messier? Not trying hard enough? Guess we could sue Naslund for the last 3 years he was here for the same thing, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thema Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Sarcasm - look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 "Thanks for Another Six Million, Bizatches!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Just so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaken Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I dislike Messier so badly I boycotted "Lays" for three and a half years, until my wife threatened to leave me .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I dislike Messier so badly I boycotted "Lays" for three and a half years, until my wife threatened to leave me .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Nothing escapes you, Shifty .. ................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 That's like one in a row for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Lemme guess You weren't getting lay-ed............. ba-dum-tss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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