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#61 aqua59

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 03:55 PM

They still need to get rid of AV!
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 03:56 PM

We had a guy who had 1st line potential. His name was Cody Hodgson.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 04:53 PM

McMally is two years behind Sauve but lightyears ahead mentally.
He will be our power play specialist in three years and on the first pairing in 4 years. Sauve will be a 6th D at best.

Another CDCer speaking out his arse , Since when do you know mentally who is ahead of who ?
And know if and when these guys will crack the canucks lineup ?

I would not be shocked if neither of these guys ever really spend much time in the nhl even
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 04:55 PM

They still need to get rid of AV!

Exactly what prospect in our system is going to replace one of our current players in a role suited for the prospect ?
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:07 PM

i wonder how quick av would get signed by another team if the canuck,s drop the f bomb on av and who would replace him and also to go back on topic i like our recent two first round draft pick,s brendan gaunce was praised alot coming up to the draft and i hope he has a great upcoming season go canucks go.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:50 PM

I agree with you. Why do ppl think these kids can replace an experienced Sedins, kesler and Hamhuis.


I don't see why all these people don't understand prospects. None of them are going to take the positions of the mentioned this season. But to see them progressing is great, maybe once they hit the same age as Kessler, sedins, kb3, hammer then they will take their place. I'd be happy if they did it sooner to be honest because that would mean there better...
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:57 PM

....mediocre at best is a good way to describe this. I just can't see these guys replacing the Sedins, Kes.. KB3, Hammer..


While i agree with you, I'm not worried because I'm sure that upcoming trades could bring us some higher draft picks and players with more potential, not to mention players that develop way past their potential and free agents that may sign in Vancouver in the future...
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 07:08 PM

Good list but I'm also interested to see if Alexander Grenier can develop into a top level power forward.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 08:13 PM

Shultz sucks, he will fizzle in Edmonton. You guys can't believe all the spoonsfuls of crap people are spreading. At the end of the day the last guy like that was Bozak, he sucks. Tanev is good because he's in a great system. If he would have been in Edmonton he'd have retired already.

These unsigned college kids suck. It's a desperate move by GM's to manufacture someting out of nothing. Shultz is not that good and I'm actually glad we didn't get him.

Although I do agree that he is quite overrated, he differs greatly from Bozak and Tanev. Those two were not drafted while Schultz on the other hand was a second round draft pick who found much success in the WCHA.

Schultz is a twig though, Connauton is probably a ways ahead of Schultz in the physical aspect of this game.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 09:29 PM

Was actually shocked to hear that Rodin hadn't been able to work out for a full two years. Makes me interested to see what he can do with a full offseason of intense training
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 09:51 PM

Looks like Prab Rai is a bust...
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:03 PM

Looks like Prab Rai is a bust...


LOL why would he be included in a top 10 on any list? I think we're going to let him finish his contract in the ECHL and then he can enjoy a career doing something else. I mean I was supportive of him too but let's be realistic.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:21 PM

Tired of hearing the Canucks have a terribly weak prospect pool. A lot of promising young players and very few spots to compete for - when you factor in the potential addition of another young player or two via Luongo, the pool looks plenty deep enough - and there are guys with NHL potential who didn't even make that top 10.

Also pleased to hear Gagner's assessment of Lack. "NHL ready." I want to see him have a shot as the backup and like the idea of he and Schneider being the two young guns - serious character in those young goaltenders.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:31 PM

We had a guy who had 1st line potential. His name was Cody Hodgson.


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Posted 05 August 2012 - 11:30 PM

id like to know whats going on with Jeremy Price. Thought he was doing really well at Colgate
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 12:53 AM

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:43 AM

Gagner has it pretty much exactly how i have it. People are going to be surprised, and enamored, by Nauts.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 08:17 AM

Tired of hearing the Canucks have a terribly weak prospect pool. A lot of promising young players and very few spots to compete for - when you factor in the potential addition of another young player or two via Luongo, the pool looks plenty deep enough - and there are guys with NHL potential who didn't even make that top 10.

Also pleased to hear Gagner's assessment of Lack. "NHL ready." I want to see him have a shot as the backup and like the idea of he and Schneider being the two young guns - serious character in those young goaltenders.

thanks op.

Here we were thinking Florida would have to send a goaltender back as part of a Lu deal. Maybe an issue was that Tallon was wanting that to happen and Gillis was already penciling Lack into the backup spot.

I am not as confident in the prospect depth as you appear to be but one must stop and consider the improvement over the past 4 years. The Canuck org has really improved oveer that time frame. A long ways from when Fading Federov was the 'great hope' in the org! One of the best things Bieksa ever did for the org was punching that idiot's lights out.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:28 AM

It's good to see they have such confidence in Connauton which bodes well for his chance to play with the team sooner than later and I'm not surprised about Rodin at all. He's the player I think is due for the biggest breakout as he really is an exceptionally skilled player with great skating. You can't downplay the problem with his shoulder and how that has affected his play.

The other item of note for me was the comment about Gaunce and his skating. Detractors keep using that as a major negative to his chances, but there were already reviews from before the draft mentioning his skating was not nearly as bad as others had made it out to be. This is a good confirmation of that and I look to how he'll do in pre-season.

Not saying he'd make it with our need for a center with Kesler out, but how nice would it be for him to challenge right away and as Kesler's coming back , he's getting ready for the World Juniors and still gets to participate there.

Any update on McNally is great as well since we hear so little about him. How he's affected Harvard's PP and being a rookie of the year finalist adds to what appears to be a pretty positive future.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:05 PM

As people have mentioned, Sweatt is a notable not on this list. People are projecting him as more than he is however, where he's not as much of a top 6 player as a skilled 3rd liner. He and Raymond are more similar than people might think (positive comparison) although Raymond plays softer on his skates and has a little higher offensive potential. Both are solid defensive players with speed who do well on the breakout/counterattack.

Another comment from some of the posts about Suave (and McNally being ranked above him as a negative). Suave as projected as a two-way D after putting up decent offensive numbers in the Q. He has all the tools on the defensive side (size, strength, aggressiveness) but hasn't put together the passing, decision making and offence to rank him higher. The car accident has slowed his development, but not his offensive abilities or hockey sense. He doesn't have enough of either yet at the higher levels. He certainly appears capable as a 6/7 guy though, and McNally jumps ahead on his burgeoning offensive talents and smooth skills.

One of the things about the Connauton description that people are focusing on is his slapper. It is reasonably accurate, but he has an underrated wrist shot that has good power and is very dangerous. He does excel in the extra room a PP situation provides but has really improved his play 5 on 5 at both ends of the ice.

id like to know whats going on with Jeremy Price. Thought he was doing really well at Colgate

He's a little off the radar since he isn't in a well covered junior/AHL league. The same goes for LaBate, but both are really solid players coming up in the system who could challenge for depth roles. Price is a bit more of the offensive mold iirc and he'll likely have a tough time displacing Connauton or McNally (not to mention current players like Edler) in our depth chart for scoring D.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:47 AM

I thought that Tanev and Kassian are still prospects?
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 03:48 PM

Kesler was expected to be a very good 3rd liner at best. Sedin took years to become the players they are now, KB was projected to be a journey man.


Kesler was picked ahead of any of these guys, and was always a can't miss prospect, even though, as you say, no one projected him to be this good.

The Sedins were selected #2 and #3 overall, and were always highly touted.

Sure there could be some surprise developments, some break-outs this year or the next. But the same can be said for every team in the league. It's all about comparing the prospect pool relative with all other teams in the league, and the Canucks are ranked in the NHL's bottom five for prospects. This article/review, though informative, is from a biased (obviously) Gagner. Of course he's going to say good things, and temper the weaknesses.

Not the Canucks fault, though. That's the built-in penalty when you're picking in the bottom fifteen of the draft almost every year.
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